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Offline blueplanet

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David Jones' Bicycle Wheel
« on: December 05, 2017, 08:33:01 AM »
I am aware of any serious discussion about this bicycle wheel.
This bicycle wheel is almost as old as this website.
Unfortunately, it is still spinning.
Does anyone know how to debunk this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dpmP_H1LBM

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David Jones' Bicycle Wheel
« on: December 05, 2017, 08:33:01 AM »

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Re: David Jones' Bicycle Wheel
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2017, 04:57:33 PM »
It looks to me as if it runs on atmospheric heat, like the sterling cycle engine.

If placed in a small sealed and insulated container, does the temperature of that enclosure drop?

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Re: David Jones' Bicycle Wheel
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2017, 06:57:19 AM »
Could be..... I honestly have no idea.

Here is another version of his bicycle wheel that has been spinning for more than 36 years:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-tyne-41638926/the-unsolved-secret-of-david-jones-perpetual-motion-machine

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Re: David Jones' Bicycle Wheel
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2017, 12:52:26 PM »
3 sterling engines and an electrophorus.
The bicycle wheel acts as the displacer/timing mechanism.


Why is it “unfortunate” that this is still spinning?
And why do you feel it needs to be “debunked”?




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Re: David Jones' Bicycle Wheel
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2017, 01:59:25 PM »
My questions are rhetorical, and do not need answered.
But are merely asked to inspire thought.




First, what gives us the idea that motion cannot be perpetuated?
Many of the more stable atomic and molecular constructs, are believed
to remain in perfect symbiotic motion for millions of years.
The planets and stars are found in similar states.


This notion that “we can’t do this” has been tossed around for centuries.
The latest culmination is what we know at thermodynamic theory.
A theory which clearly described theoretical conditions we cannot create.
Nowhere on earth, in space, or in any laboratory, have humans been able to
create a “closed system”. Yet these theories are the driving force of impossible
mechanisms.


Naturally, if we cannot create these theoretical conditions, any such system of motion
must therefore NOT fall under the pretense of the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 0th laws.
These laws merely serve as guidelines by which we engineer our Consumption.


Consumption is the bane of our energy crisis.


So, when we observe a system in a state of (relatively) endless motion,
we are not searching for an ‘impossible’ perpetuant.
But rather, the unclosed elements of the system that allows energy transfer.


Why do we consume? Because we are told we have to.
But when we observe natural systems, we find that consumption is shadowed
by absorption almost unequivocally across the board.
Why then are our systems not designed in this manner?


Because our ‘brute force’ approach to mechanics is ingrained in our theology
from the very foundations of our branch of technology.
Certainly our form of technology is not the only form that exists, or that can exist.
And this is a point that David Jones understood very well.
He writes about this.


Under David Jones’ philosophy, Consumption is reduced by all means.
This is achieved by identifying the points of Consumption and reducing them in
ways which are synonymous to Nature.


Balance, friction, and wind resistance are three of the major elements which he
strives to reduce this Consumption, by internalizing their effects.
Similar to cellular biology.


Next, he overpowers all remaining forms of Consumption, by absorption.
This is, to allow natural sources of energy to enter the system.
Notice I said “enter”, which means the systems are NOT closed, and by
definition, are NOT perpetual motion systems.
They are defined as systems of motion that are conserved.
And it is the laws of conservation that govern these types of systems,
NOT the laws of thermodynamics.


It is important to note that it is the same thermodynamic theories that describe
how the energy enters into these systems, and in this manner, thermodynamics
describes what IS possible, rather than the mis-interpretation of what is NOT possible.


He built his machines as a practical joke to the proponents of thermodynamic theory.
He clearly states this in his earlier writings. Nothing is hidden, except by those that
display his work under the guise of mystery, or the guise of hoax, by misrepresenting
the machines as violations of scientific law, rather than the demonstrations of those very
same laws, as David intended them to be.




It is this duality of theology that keeps us trapped.
On the one hand we present an impossible situation.
On the other we claim that all things in this category must therefore be impossible.


The first law of Anti-Thermodynamics:


1) A closed system cannot exist.
     The energy emanating from our universe, and the galaxies and stars within, are far
greater in magnitude than the energies that bond our atoms and molecules.
Physical matter cannot be shielded from the forces of nature which created it.
Physical matter emanates it’s own energy, and therefore, matter itself cannot be considered a
‘closed system’. For the very atoms and molecules which we would use to shield such a system,
input and output energies of their own.


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Re: David Jones' Bicycle Wheel
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2017, 01:59:25 PM »
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Re: David Jones' Bicycle Wheel
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2017, 04:22:29 PM »
I have built one so-called perpetual motion machine similar to Dr. David Jones'.
But I have never used any conventional version of sterling engines as many people claim.

3 sterling engines and an electrophorus.
The bicycle wheel acts as the displacer/timing mechanism.


Why is it “unfortunate” that this is still spinning?
And why do you feel it needs to be “debunked”?

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Re: David Jones' Bicycle Wheel
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2017, 04:25:35 PM »
The following is Dr. Jones' video introduction of his movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elENLa01XHA

He must have a lot of important scientific ideas to reveal.

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Re: David Jones' Bicycle Wheel
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Re: David Jones' Bicycle Wheel
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2017, 05:09:20 AM »
Perpetuality is a matter of perspective
Is our moon perpetual?
Our solar system? Our galaxy?


Da’Vinci used to make metal yard-art that moved with
the temp difference of night and day


Eventually the water in this cup will warm up to room temperature
And the perpetual drinking bird will die of thirst.....
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk71GY02diY

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Re: David Jones' Bicycle Wheel
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2017, 01:27:34 PM »
Interesting!   All the satellites we have sent to the sky are perpetual motion machines of some kind. They don't use conventional batteries to power the electronics instruments inside the satellites.

It seems that we have nothing on this planet earth that can cool the heads of these angry birds. Perpetual motion machine is not a science but the mind-control is.  I suspect that the birds have been mind controlled. They need treatment for their mind-controlled heads.

I am also wondering if we can use the universal Laws of Thermodynamics to explain earthquakes or climate abnormality.

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Re: David Jones' Bicycle Wheel
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2017, 01:35:08 PM »
Foil hats! Get your foil hats!


The pressure exerted on the tectonic plates
is in a state of constant change.
As a result of the changing mass above each plate.


Even without human activity, the earth moves mass about its surface
And we are constantly being bombarded by meteors and space debris.
Which adds mass to the Earth’s surface.
Even the ones that burn up, 100% of their mass falls to earth as
“Cosmic dust”.


This changing outer pressure, causes dynamic changes to the inner pressure
Resulting in volcanism and tectonic movement.
In the case of a planet without tectonic fracturing,
it results in volcanism and rupturing of the crust.
(assuming it has an active core)


We “can” apply some thermodynamic concepts here, but these effects are
primarily described by gravitational analysis and Boyle’s Law.






Perception is the bane of our reality. They tell us what we are trying to accomplish is
“Impossible”.
But such has been said about all great human accomplishments.
They also tell us that our baby-sister nation of a democratic republic
is ran by an evil dictator.
To justify their desire for war.


So we should be looking at who “they are” that are telling us these things.


There are things we are not taught in schools, things the schools lie to us about.
And they know it. The accreditation board knows it.
And I have seen enough to know that their “impossibilities” are a myth.
Propagated for capitalistic reasons.


You don’t believe THAT’s possible?
Explain the existence of Agricultural Science, and a multi-trillion $ fertilizer industry.
When our ancestors told us how to do it better, for free, and in an evironmentally
responsible manner, and carved it in Stone.


While we send our children to college to learn how to poison each other by
“Writing prescriptions for our plants”, using their magic 3-digit codes.


There’s only one 3-digit number we need to throw all of agricultural science in the trash
1-1-1 <——————
Charcoal/biochar/wood-coal
But we poison ourselves, and turn food into big business
Starve our farmers


What they did to the energy market is far more atrocious......

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Re: David Jones' Bicycle Wheel
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2017, 01:53:23 PM »
Most satellites use thermo-nuclear radiation sources
in conjunction with peltier/seebeck thermoelectric
conversion technology.


Others use similar, but more complex systems.
They are designed for a specified lifetime, and will
not run forever.


Eventually they will be intentionally brought down
before they wear out.


 

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