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Offline isawit

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Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2017, 08:00:19 AM »
maxwell is top science guy. his em theory is bs.

there is no electric field moving in space at light speed and self producing a magnetic field at 90 degrees to form a transverse wave.

that carries those force fields? photon? how?

einstein theories are all bs. gravity cannot curve space, cannot dilate time. space and time have no mass, gravity only act on mass.

all atomic structure theories, standard or bohr model, are total bs.

the attraction force between opposite charges is the strongest force in the universe, there is no possibility that electrons able to circle/wave/cloud around the protons, to form stable atom.

all science based on that model is false.

we can hardly separate two strong magnets, how nature makes electrons not stick to protons all the times?

what is uncertainty principle? it is certain that there is only attraction force between opposite charged particles in every atom. it is uncertain how the fuck they don't stick together at all the times.

wave-particle duality? how electrons wave? what's the cause?

all things must have precise mechanism.

remember God doesn't play dice?

the forces between charged particles rule the universe.

the force between electrons f=Ke x ee/rr is the carrier of all em phenomena. current, light, em wave, magnetizing, induction, radiation, fiction, photoelectric effect, photosynthesis and more.

all mechanic work is also that force at work.

if you push a thing, the electrons on your skin are pushing the electrons on that thing.

no one, no thing, can make 2 electrons stick together. the repulsion force is very very strong.

what force can separate electron and proton? aren't they attract each other?

qm my ass, less than a fart. ENERGY IS ELECTROMOTIVE FORCE carried by moving matter/charge. energy can only coexist with matter.

what is dark matter? what is dark energy? those dark scientists are from a dark age. GO TO GO!

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Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2017, 08:00:19 AM »

Offline isawit

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Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2017, 08:31:41 AM »
the most famous equation e=mcc is BS

mass is condensed charged particles. energy is emf matter carried. totally different, cannot equivalent.

a 1 kg gold bar at rest has no energy but thermal energy, for it to 1kgcc energy, it must move at 1.414 c speed. how fast can we move a bullet?

nuclear energy? 1 kg best fuel, how many % of it can produce heat?

the most famous experiment double slit is BS

light is not wave nor particle, but electron's vibration force. put double slit experiment in a vacuum chamber, wave property will disappear.

have you doubt any scientific theories? debunked any? disproved any?

Offline citfta

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Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2017, 02:30:10 PM »
You sure do a lot of debunking with nothing to back up your claims.  You have not shown one single actual fact to prove any of your wild ideas.

I do agree with you on one thing and I have an actual fact to back it up.  The theory of evolution is nothing but the biggest lie ever presented to the human race.  There are hundreds of real facts that have been firmly established by science that prove evolution is impossible.  A minimum of time spent in research will prove this.

One very interesting fact I found was that a very famous atheist mathematician in England set out to prove that evolution was possible by calculating the odds of probability that evolution could have happened.  I have forgotten his name.  He spent over a year collecting data about all the things that would have to happen just right for evolution to be possible.  Then he started calculating.  After he was done he came to the conclusion that evolution was mathematically impossible.  There were just too many things that had to happen exactly right for life to have accidentally started.  And even more important there was no known mechanism that would account for the change from one species to a higher level by chance or time.  In fact all the evidence pointed to any changes being to the detriment of a species not a gain.

As he put it, after all that, he came to this way of explaining it.  The odds were so great against evolution he said it was more likely that a tornado going through a junk yard would randomly pick up pieces of junk and cram them together to make a fully functioning 747 aircraft.

If you want to debunk modern science with your wild claims you should at least give some evidence for your opinion instead of just your illogical rambling.  No one is going to take you seriously for a bunch of wild claims with nothing to back them up.

Respectfully,
Carroll

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2017, 04:21:52 PM »
@carroll


I have no grounds to argue theology. As I have not seen any
evidence of this. What IS evident, after 3 decades of studying history
and mythology/religion, is that much of what we don’t understand,
wether technological or cultural, we describe in terms of what we know
at the time. (From the perspective of the person writing it down)
And what is clear to me, is that humans have been playing this game
of teaching and losing knowledge for a very very long time.
Our “Gods” are humans, with a greater scope of knowledge and perspective
than the societies they teach. And those societies write about the ‘magical’
things they are taught by these “gods”.


As far as the theory of evolution, I suppose that depends on how it is
interpreted. Without a thorough understanding of the interactions between
the carbon chains I mentioned above, and the other organic chains that
coalesce to form rna and dna, “evolution” sounds exactly like any other
mythology.


In reality, whatever “cause” you attribute to the ever-changing code of life forms.
Wether it be a mythical deity, or simple the natural response of the elements to
frequencies (internal and external) that pass through them.
What we call “evolution”, (referring to the process, not the myth theories)
Is our best attempt to describe the actions and interactions of these carbon-chain
molecules, and how they form the life that we know of.
(the life we don’t know of may make use of completely different processes)


I’m not saying we came from monkeys, or that monkeys came from us.
But whatever caused US and monkeys, was from the same processes we
observe with every life form we know of.
Even the complex sulphur-based creatures that live deep in the earth, evolve
their genetic code every generation, like everything else we have found to be “alive”.


That being said, I could argue that every atom and molecule is “alive” to some degree.
Carbon being the dominant life force that we are made of.
The only “theological” question I have is: is our consciousness a manifestation of our
complex brain chemistry? Or are we simply the conscious manifestation of a single
(Dominant) carbon atom? expressing itself through the molecular chain of elements?


in either case, all life is a discrete chemical process. The elements only bond in certain ways.
Some of those ways result in ‘living’ molecules (enzymes), that form into cellular structures.
They respond to their environment by passing signals into and out of the chains. Starlight
(or stellar radiation) is one of the major driving forces, but also is the direct environment.
As far as: was it natural or god made, or in which order the animals came to be... we may never have
more knowledge than our best guesstimate with the little data we have available.








@isaw it


If you don’t believe in EM theory, please explain how you think your computer is able to
create the image of your messages and send them to the world on this website?
Or perform the complex mathematics required to even run your operating system,
store data in digital format.... all of our electronics were invented by EM theory.
If it were not true (at least in part), none of our stuff would work. We’d just have a
bunch of funny looking paperweights.


There would be no radio, no lightbulb, none of our recording equipment would function....
The television, lasers,.... I could go on.

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Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2017, 04:25:06 PM »
This is how societies lose their knowledge. Kids refuse to learn the foundational
information left by their parents generation, and everything we know gets
tossed into obscurity. Now we have people that think EM theory is a myth,
and that the earth is flat.....


I guess we can just burn down the libraries, destroy the internet
And start all over again.....

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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2017, 04:32:17 PM »
In the meantime, let’s enjoy the fuel-less graphene battery
That our science has created.

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Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2017, 04:54:04 PM »
Hi smoky2,

I hope you didn't think my comments were directed to you.  I of course was referring to isawit whose arguments seem to have no basis in fact.  I agree with you that without our modern science we would have none of the many many things we enjoy.  Our modern theories of electronics and atomic structure may not be totally correct but they have served us well in developing the many aspects of our modern world.  One statement isawit made that really seems ridiculous to me was where he posted that he only believes in applied science and not theoretical science.  HUH?  How can you possibly have applied science if you didn't first have theoretical science.  That statement doesn't make any sense at all.

As far as the theory of evolution goes, I have studied it for many years and it is a total fabrication of lies.  Even Darwin who is called the father of evolution admitted he saw many flaws in the theory.  No one mentions that, but he did say it.  And he really is not the father of evolution.  The idea was actually presented long before him.

Oh well I have derailed this thread long enough.

Respectfully,
Carroll

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Offline isawit

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Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2017, 04:59:57 PM »
i pointed so many science lies, why don't you debunk any of them?

put up wall of word salad is useless.

em theory? what carries em wave in space?

what is energy? what is energy level? what is uncertain?

full of shit!

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Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2017, 05:06:25 PM »
total bs

how 1 electron and 1 proton able to form a stable hydrogen atom?

what force between them? why they do not stick together?

what is energy? how electrons carry energy? transfer energy?

how electrons change energy level and emit photon? what mechanism?

no word salad, put up mechanism and explanation.

put up or stfu

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Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2017, 05:11:55 PM »
those monkeys teach physics at cambridge, check out their monkey math.

if you can't spot a simple math lie, how can you spot lies in science?

you can only believe anything they told you, including your ggggrandpa were monkeys.

do you understand?    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-I6XTVZXww

do you know their simple math mistakes?

can you point it out?

if not, how can you understand any science theories?

all you do is read and believe, copy and paste. correct?

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Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2017, 06:05:04 PM »
don't blame me. you forgot to question.

you learned everything from school and media

maybe it is too late to change now

but think for your kids

don't let them grow up just like you

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Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2017, 06:18:30 PM »
no wonder all top scientists believe they are evolved from apes

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Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2017, 06:23:50 PM »
did they push you to believe so?

why did you let them?

not smart?

 

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Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2017, 06:25:46 PM »
smart, but weak minded?

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Re: Graphene provides limitless free energy
« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2017, 08:49:11 PM »

@isawit

There are plenty of threads devoted to alternative theories
you should go contaminate those instead of adding useless
arguments here.


This thread is about the potential applications of graphene,
and its’ use as a natural oscillator.


The fact that you do not accept modern theory, is not the
topic of this conversation.
You can take my attempt at explaining this for what it is.
Or don’t......


Your mindless rants and objections serve no purpose here.
No one is deterred by your nonsense.
People will make their graphene batteries with or without
your consent.


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