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Title: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on November 19, 2017, 02:20:57 PM
I was asked to start this topic by Bob Smith on Energetic Forum. I fell it's better suited for the Overunity web site where the controversy originated.
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: Jeg on November 19, 2017, 02:35:44 PM
Thanks for posting this Synchro and of course thanks to Gotoluk for disclosing his experiment. Is it much to ask for a simple circuit drawing? I mean, connections are not very clear. Does it have a secondary?

Regards
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on November 19, 2017, 02:44:39 PM
Thanks for posting this Synchro and of course thanks to Gotoluk for disclosing his experiment. Is it much to ask for a simple circuit drawing? I mean, connections are not very clear. Does it have a secondary?

Regards

@Jag,

The point of the schematic is to demonstrate that the "Inductance of the Coil and Core" decreaase in proportion to the magnet spacing. Therefore; The closer the magnets are to the inductor, the lower the Henrys. The difference in inductance or, the "Negative" amount, is in direct proportion to the inductance it replaces with "Magnetic Force"!! 


Here's a new video on the gain from the "Bucking" poles of the neutralization pulse:
 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hqnEddy7ZE&t=26s
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: Jeg on November 19, 2017, 05:19:51 PM
Interesting.. Especially if the associated ratios IN/OUT change their proportional relation by approaching the magnet. Going to test it. Thanks for bringing this in to attention.

ps. not going on to a discussion about saturation and the associated lowering of inductance and increasing of current. I am interested more in braking the proportionality between the values and if this brake exist here. ;)
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on November 19, 2017, 08:46:42 PM
It would make a difference on how you ran this GAP motor; In attraction or opposition! The neutralization pulse allows a rotor in attraction to pass, while the power coil acts as a pickup coil for the increased output from the re-gaugingt: The rotor increases the output to the "Hybrid Coil" in rest phase.


Here's a short video demonstrating a latching "Reed Switch": Two "Reed Switch's" would be used, one to direct output to storage or looped to source. This kind of motor could run off a capacitor and an interruptor circuit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUqdYdArys4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUqdYdArys4)
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on November 20, 2017, 02:54:56 PM
Imagine a two magnet mono pole rotor with two reciprocating "Latching Reed Switches" on the axle. The neutralization coil (pictured above) would be connected in series with the switches through a battery and capacitor in parallel. This neutralization attraction motor should run itself with the battery disconnected once started.
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on November 21, 2017, 01:43:56 PM
The masking coil and magnet attraction delivers less torque to the rotor than the repulsive opposition alternative; The benefit to the neutralization approach is the gain the masking pulse generates in it's own windings from the torsion of it's internal magnetic field forces.


The attraction masking pulse is weaker and otherwise avoided by motor builders. We seek to uncover it's hidden strength!
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on November 21, 2017, 06:36:04 PM
The commutator circuit needs a diode! The masking pulse is timed to fire at TDC, and carry through to the half way point when it turns off so the attraction can carry it to the opposing rotor magnet. During this time the coil is reconnected to the battery and capacitor through a one way current permiting diode. The charging takes place due to the "Super Position" of the higher coil voltage resulting from the back surge of magnetic force.
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on November 22, 2017, 03:59:22 PM
Here's a picture of my new build. Notice the ninety degree segment for the reed trigger magnets: Both reed switches have the same origin and destination; The positive electrode of the masking coil and the positive electrode of the power capacitor and battery. The negative lead of the masking coil just connects to the ground of the capacitor and battery.
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on November 24, 2017, 12:54:44 PM
We can see a 12 volt electro-magnet with a stack of ceramic backing disc magnets on the left in the picture above. This electro-magnet turns into an output coil during the high power phase of the approaching rotor magnet. Not only a higher voltage but an increased amperage show up at the capacitor diode. This ratio of output to input has been measured as over unity by Art porter with his GAP apparatus.

Here's a new video on gauging the "Neutralization Strength" of the electro-magnet on the attraction force of a ceramic block magnet:

https://youtu.be/OSKG0PX2Q6s (https://youtu.be/OSKG0PX2Q6s)


This electro-magnet is now suitably balanced for an attraction rotor with two ceramic block magnets for poles with a gap of two coasters in width.
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on November 25, 2017, 04:02:58 PM
There's a difference between neutralization of opposite polarities and neutralization of attraction. The short video above could be repeated with the holding power generated by the electro-magnet, releasing the ceramic block when the coil power's interrupted. It would waste a lot of power to hold the ceramic block magnet up with power from the electro-magnet, instead of it's permanent backing magnets! 

Art Porter demonstrates neutralization of opposition polarity in his GAP video; The repelling magnets close when the neutralization pulse coil is powered on.   

Compare this to the action of a neutralization motor: The attraction rotor magnet is drawn toward the electro-magnet coil when the coil is in output mode from 90 degrees to TDC. Art's gravity piston of opposition magnets is pushed away from the coil when the coil's de-energized.

The difference is that the attraction rotor builds the output from lowest to highest level; The "Push Away" motion of the opposition magnet has it's charge curve reversed! The attraction motor produces a "Rising" power output curve during the rotor magnet's approach to the coil backing magnets during it's recovery mode.

I'll be comparing input and output from my reed commutator attraction motor soon.

Have a look at this attraction output video first; The volt meter's on the milli volt scale:

https://youtu.be/ipxavFNTsh4 (https://youtu.be/ipxavFNTsh4)
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on November 25, 2017, 07:20:50 PM
Fast forward to 2:30 for the key to the "Orbo" by JLN: "When you apply current to the stator coil, it's only to free the magnets after they have done useful mechanical work"!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTMQFvWkS9s
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on November 27, 2017, 12:17:11 AM
The electro magnet has very little reach compared to the backing magnet field. The electro magnet could never run the magnet rotor off current alone because the coil field drops off substantially sooner then the inverse square distance of the PM's.

The electro magnet however, has the power to truncate the PM field completely through it's high perm alloy core, when it's directly attached to them. The placement of the PM backing magnets extends the projected field by a wide margin over what the coil could effect alone.

This solitary fact amounts to a powerful amplification of the electro magnet coil force. The wider field range turns into an asset for the electro magnet as a pickup coil because the rotor magnet begins to influence the coil further from the side.

The core inductance acts like weight in copper for magnetic field strength per unit of electrical input power. We get a greater force field per watt value with higher core inductance. Electro magnets are hardly ever used in electrical motors due to these drawbacks; However, the drawbacks turn to advantages when combined with attraction masking of backing magnets.   

 


 
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on November 27, 2017, 02:04:21 PM
The topic of this thread is "Negative Inductance and Magnetic Force". JLN's first Orbo test demonstrates a drop in ferrite toroid coil inductance from 235 micro Henrys to 167 micro Henrys when the magnets are attached to the toroid by attraction. That's nearly a 30% drop in efficiency; That means it will require 30% more current to unlock the magnets.

The "Electro-Magnet", with a high inductance "Samarium-Nickel-Cobalt" core is practically impervious to inductance loss from the attachment of permanent magnets; Thus millions of times more efficient as a masking magnet shunt then the ferrite. The Electro-Magnet's inductance measured 73 milli Henrys with no magnets, and a loss of one mico Henry with the attachment of the backing magnets and an additional one micro Henry loss with the rotor magnet at TDC. That's two "Millionths" of a Henry. That amount of inductance loss is barely noticeable by contrast to the ferrite!
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on November 28, 2017, 09:29:15 PM
Can anyone believe that the same input power is masking ten times the attraction strength?

https://youtu.be/K1aQQhiViig
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on November 29, 2017, 12:12:37 AM
Hob Nilre demonstrated how magnet field attraction strength is directly proportional to copper mass. Twice the copper mass yields the same magnet strength for half the input or twice the magnet strength for the same input. Joe Newman took full advantage of this principle when he built "Big Eureka". The problem with Newman's motor design is firstly; The rotor magnet size is restricted by the space inside the coil core.

The masking strength of a neutralization coil has the same ratio of copper mass to input and magnet strength, however, the external solenoid piston can be any size!

Generating output from a separate solenoid coil with a larger then "Newman Rotor" dimension stack of magnets piston in a masking oscillator could be any size. Secondly, the output would be pure sine wave A.C. with no need for a commutator with "Back Spike Gap".

 
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on November 30, 2017, 09:22:39 PM
Here's a picture of what I believe to be an "Overunity Attraction Neutralization Alternator Oscillator": The D.C. fan commutator weeds the 18% of "Backspike" out and returns the regauging output to the source capacitor through a diode from the electro magnet masking coil.

The bifilar output coil on the left houses the lower stack of ceramic rings that are designed to oscillate in the core. This output passes through a FWBR and feeds the same source capacitor as the EM masking coil overhead.
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on December 02, 2017, 12:10:45 AM
Here' a picture of an attraction motor rotor I built with an elongated arm for testing, and a bifilar ferrite core masking coil with backing magnets on the commutator fan. Works well enough. I plan to test a short arm tomorrow!
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on December 03, 2017, 05:00:42 AM
The 800% Adams "Attraction Masking" motor generator. Here's a link to this highly informative PDF http://www.free-energy-info.com/Video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2bPDDWqSvM

The latching Reed switch commutator D.C. fan substitutes for both Adams output coils and his optic-utter commutator.
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on December 03, 2017, 02:48:12 PM
I plan to add a four way cross connector to the rotor, shorten the arms and double the reed switch trigger magnets along with a second magnet backed masking coil. Connecting the two coils through the commutator would complete this improved and modified "Adams Attraction Motor Generator". The extra torque and output is a result of the backing magnets, and the D.C. fan is a Tesla induction motor that acts as a very efficient generator. The other feature is the monococque latching reed switch commutator. These three simple construction improvements add increased power and efficiency to the Adams design. A well designed motor generator. Plus look at all the test results we're supplied by Adams to help.


One other point; The electro-magnet is only good for the oscillator because the metal rim of the pot transformer is magnetic and cogs the rotor. The power source needs to run the D.C. fan as a commutator, but the basic design would be identical. 


Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on December 03, 2017, 09:10:57 PM
This schematic of then Adams motor shows how basic the wiring is; Simply a diode and capacitor in parallel with the battery:
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on December 04, 2017, 01:20:54 AM
Here's a picture of my half finished four magnet rotor:
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on December 04, 2017, 03:36:16 PM
Robert Adams produced a formula for coil dimension coupled with a strength test for his rotor magnet. Placing a magnet behind the masking coil core would require more weight in coil copper to generate an eqivilent magnetic strength. This would require a larger dimension coil.

The advantage to increasing attraction strength this way is that the additional strength comes at no increased cost to input power. The commutator and circuit would remain nearly identical to Adams' motor.

This novel motor is a "GAP Adams".
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on December 04, 2017, 07:48:49 PM
Here's a picture of the finished four magnet rotor: The 1/1/8" Radio Shack ceramic rings are a perfect fit for the 1-3/8" PVC fixtures.
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on December 05, 2017, 04:15:21 PM

Here's an excellent window Adams motor configuration video. The output coils are built and positioned to generate "Lenz Acceleration". The D.C. fan generator may accelerate the rotor regenerativly under load the same way.

My "GAP Adams" uses the Art Porter commutator not the single contact of Robert Adams. The backspike cancels the re-gauging output and needs to be side tracked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GflQEMrS5Fk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GflQEMrS5Fk)

Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on December 06, 2017, 07:33:44 PM
Here's a video of the attraction rotor generating power in the masking coil:

https://youtu.be/s-Yw4QstSHU
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on December 07, 2017, 11:23:09 PM
Here's the D.C. fan commutator with the first "Latching Reed Switch" attached and blinking an LED:

https://youtu.be/z76vwiVP3zk (https://youtu.be/z76vwiVP3zk)


The tiny Neo magnet fragment on the razor blade was not glued well enough and detaches toward the end of the video. Very simple to fix for good. It really works fine.
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on December 08, 2017, 05:47:28 PM
Here's a video of the 500 newton electro magnet masking 6 ceramic block magnets controlled by the "Latching Reed Switch" commutator:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KSGNseHga4
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on December 08, 2017, 09:20:09 PM
This single 1.5 volt Reed switch loop pulse motor can power the D.C fan commutator with practically zero input, and also generate power:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWvI7T7h3tk
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on December 10, 2017, 01:02:13 AM

Here's a video of the commutator with two reciprocating "Latching Reed Switches": I wired two LEDE's to them, and they light one, then the other in sequence very nicely. I also installed an output coil under the 500 newton EM for the oscillator magnet piston.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isA9JCe8mnc
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on December 10, 2017, 07:13:33 PM
Here's a video of the twin reciprocating "Latching Reed Switches" commutator with the rotor removed flashing LEDS:

https://youtu.be/kWKVhRdecZQ
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on December 13, 2017, 01:12:52 AM
This video shows a streamlined D.C. fan commutator with the blades removed. There's a "Latching Reed Switch" mounted inside the frame and a trigger magnet fastened to the hub. This setup is powered by a run down 9 volt battery with a pot and mosfet speed controller: 

https://youtu.be/TzNuGdC4SbQ
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on December 13, 2017, 08:09:14 PM
Here's a video of the finished blade-less, reciprocating D.C. fan "Latching Reed Switch" commutator with only two trigger magnets of opposite polarity positioned at 180 degrees from one another:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z79XWhN65ZY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z79XWhN65ZY)

Now that I reduced the load and input voltage, I eliminated the speed controller mosfet and simply have a 100K potentiometer wired in series between the 9 volt battery and D.C. fan. This combination is working perfectly.
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on December 14, 2017, 04:49:12 PM
Simple as it can get:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvZoShfxSDU
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on December 15, 2017, 01:06:22 AM
Video of the first power measurements:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuohIRAw76c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuohIRAw76c)

Turning the commutator slowly by hand makes the lower stack of 4 ceramic disks jump a single time, but the output of around 7.5 volts persists for a protracted period of time. What might be causing that effect? Perhaps "Magnetic field reverberation". The output drops to .25 volts as the commutator speeds up. Slowing the commutator down towards the end of the video makes the output climb to as high as 2.5 volts; Stopping it generates the 7.5 volts again for an extended time!

I noticed an inverse relationship between frequency and output with the attraction masking oscillator. It appears that the maximum power curve may be in the fractional hertz with this generator. The prolonged output duration from the single pulse amazed me. Truly awesome initial test result!


The best commutator might be a 6 RPM microwave carousel motor.
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on December 15, 2017, 04:55:32 AM
I ran a second test with 8 ceramic discs on the lower stack and am generating a steady 8 A.C. volts out of the electro-magnet. My input is 12 D.C. volts at 1.5 amps. I'll check the amperage on my next test. This is not BEMF recovery. The lower oscillating magnet stack still has the potential to generate output as well.
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on December 15, 2017, 04:54:44 PM
Compare the diameters of these two Electro-magnets. The core of the 500 Newton coil on the left is merely 50% greater at 3/4" then the 50 Newton coil on the right at 1/2". Isn't it interesting that they develop that much difference in attraction strength with the same input current?

The masking oscillator generates power in proportion to the magnetic force of it's backing magnets. It's curious that we can control greater amounts at no increased cost to input power.
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on December 17, 2017, 12:04:59 AM
Second potentiometer.

I wired a second 10K potentiometer in series with the 100K potentiometer and managed to lower the commutator fan R.P.M. down to around a Hertz.

I slowed the rotor for the second test by applying pressure to the fan rotor with my index finger. I also had the DMM wrongfully positioned on the D.C. setting. I'm certain my second output reading of 8 A.C. volts was accurate. That amounted to 2/3 of the input voltage. That's a whopping amount of recovery percentage from the primary EM coil. I'm currently testing for amperage.

My theory predicts a 100% chance of going OU with this configuration.
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on December 17, 2017, 04:41:41 PM
Here's a video of the elastic spring oscillator controlled by the "Reed switch commutator":


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9sSk9MwJok
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on December 20, 2017, 12:11:33 AM
Art Porter's solid state GAP generator is powered by an A.C. sine wave inverted from a D.C. power source and controlled by a commutator. The positive and negative polarities of the A.C current serve to amplify and neutralize the permanent magnet fields that sandwich his primary coil. Hob Nilre has demonstrated conclusively that weight in copper increases magnetic field strength in an air core power coils with the same input current. Art's coil induction is balanced to mask the attraction gauss of his Neo disc magnets. It's not hard to visualize where the break even and over unity COP line would appear. We can calculate it with a high degree of scientific accuracy. Art's measurements demonstrate that the neutralization side of the A.C. sine wave delivers more output than the amplification one. My simple two switch commutator delivers a D.C neutralization pulse and recovers output. The setup works fine. Winding a larger copper coil with sufficent weight in copper to mask the attraction of my two large Neo disks at a predetermined input would result in a predictable over unity COP when driven by my two switch commutator. This conclusion is inescapable.   


Title: Large neo disk from pie segments.
Post by: synchro1 on December 22, 2017, 06:47:05 PM
This video shows a very powerful levitating Neo magnet disk assembled from individual pie segments. A magnet form like this could easily be 3D printed. The advantage is that there is really no limit to the size or power this kind of magnet form can be enlarged to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y51rrBmepMw (http://www.energeticforum.com/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dy51rrBmepMw)




 
Title: Commutator
Post by: synchro1 on December 24, 2017, 03:50:56 PM
The "Reed Switch Commutator" only needs to latch on one side. The power switch can simply make a brief contact. It takes only a spilt second to separate the attraction fields, but the output is dependent on a time lapse oscillation. This amounts to a very simple adjustment of the power pulse biasing magnet.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXkJ07jkaOM


Title: Relay timer circuit.
Post by: synchro1 on December 26, 2017, 04:25:46 AM
I bought several "Relay Timer Circuits" I believe will work bettor then the D.C. commutator fan.

Two normally open, timed to close (NOTC) "Timer Relays" should work fine triggered by a 6 second per turn microwave carousel motor with one trigger magnet attached. A Reed switch would then trigger the two "Relay Timers" together. One "Relay Timer" would power the masking coil briefly for 1 second, then the second "Relay timer" would wait 2 seconds then turn on for 3 seconds to channel the output to storage. This would create a one second gap for the BEMF to bleed off and not cancel any output. I'll upload a video of this soon.
Title: Carousel commutator and "Timer Relays"
Post by: synchro1 on December 28, 2017, 08:38:15 PM
In this video, we see the "Timer Relays" and the 3 RPM commutator lighting an LED:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfvZGz_H77A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfvZGz_H77A)
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on December 29, 2017, 01:14:54 AM
Here's a pictute of the carousel trigger magnet motor mounted inside the D.C. fan frame. This will produce 10 seconds of latched "Reed Switch" power on each side, either simultaneously or in series. The four reed switch leads connect to the timer switches:

Here's a good video on the functioning of "Timer Relays":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71LzzUukFhE&t=112s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71LzzUukFhE&t=112s)
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on December 29, 2017, 02:28:23 PM
This is the final finished design. The "Latching Reed Switches" alternate; The trigger magnets are N.S.N.S. The power on time is 5 seconds; 1 second for the masking pulse, 1 second for BEMF cleansing followed by 3 seconds of output. Both NOTC Timer Relays are activated and deactivated simultaneously by the alternating Reed Switches.

This setup delivers a constant series of cycles with no lapse at .05 Hertz.
Title: Carousel latching reeds.
Post by: synchro1 on December 31, 2017, 01:14:20 AM
Here's a look at the carousel commutator latching the alternating reed switches. Still some fine tuning left. Next comes the timer relays:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpX2RGpEKh4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpX2RGpEKh4)
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on December 31, 2017, 04:33:41 PM
Kinetic Art.


Happy new year folks. What's the value of kinetic art? This is a philosophical quandary.I'm sitting here staring at this contraption I wandered into and realized I could wire a 555 on a bread board to do the same work in under an hour. Thinking more on it I realized I already purchased a third timer relay that has the 555 circuit, so the commutator is just more crap for the junk box.


I caught myself by the tail again.


"Kinetic art - art that depends on movement for its effects - has its origins in the Dadaist and Constructivist movements that emerged in the 1910s. It flourished into a lively avant-garde trend following the landmark exhibition Le Mouvement  at Galerie Denise Rene in Paris in 1955, after which it attracted a wide international following".
Title: Greetings from paradise.
Post by: synchro1 on December 31, 2017, 06:39:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpnKnVn_w8Y
Title: Magnet oscillator.
Post by: synchro1 on January 03, 2018, 07:30:50 PM
This video is interesting because it has the potential to generate power in the jouncing coil: The permanent magnet field is passing through the AA battery and magnetizing the positive nipple of the battery with a negative polarity. The tail end of the copper coil is grounded through the magnet discs at the base. The battery is channeling a permanent magnet field and the permanent magnets are conducting electrical current. This is an ingeneous setup. Remember Hob's principles. Lengthening the coil would increase the coil's magnetic field for the same input! This coil should illuminate an LED as a flyback transformer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8VxPNwRuxA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8VxPNwRuxA)
Title: AA Homopolar.
Post by: synchro1 on January 05, 2018, 12:02:57 AM
I measured the AA for inductance and Ohmic resistance and discovered that it was possible to make the battery ring by shock charging it with D.C. current. Attaching 12 volt D.C. electrodes to the AA first makes the battery start to hum, then it continues to hum after the power's removed; While the AA's humming it shunts any permanent magnetic field. I grew very excited about this effect but when I tried to adapt multiple AA's to the masking oscillator they failed to work simultaenously because they have low manufacturing tolerances.

This Homopolar oscillator has captured my attention because of it's infernal simplicity and the similarity to the neutralization oscillator I've been testing.

Follow along with me a little more on this: Imagine we attached the base magnets to the base of a U shaped magnetic metal frame, and mounted an LED with a reflector shield in front of it on on end, then attached the reverse biased LED electrodes to both ends of the spring coil with high gauge (Very thin) magnet wire to run HV flyback into the bulb, and used the rear portion of the U frame for a handle. This would make a pretty coil emergency storm lamp right!

This oscillator has a lot of potential for those two reasons along with our Hob Nilre test results. For example; If we position a second AA on top in series with the first and double the length of the copper spring coil, we can illuminate a second LED equally bright for the same input.
Title: Two AA battery magnet oscillator
Post by: synchro1 on January 05, 2018, 04:12:41 PM
Here's my entry with double the batteries and twice the coil length. I'm using the Neo sphere to repel the coil from the bottom to impart greater force to the oscillation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx5X35GJtic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx5X35GJtic)
Title: AA oscillator coil
Post by: synchro1 on January 06, 2018, 01:37:53 PM
Here's a bettor look at the oscillator coil: Double the coil length will generate twice the magnetic field  for the same unit of input along with twice the "Flyback" power and illuminate two times as many reverse biased LED's as a coil half its mass in copper.
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on January 06, 2018, 08:52:34 PM

Here's a picture of the two AA batteries in series lighting a single 3 volt LED with D.C. current through the Neo sphere magnet: 25 feet of copper wire conductor is not increasing circuit efficiency in this example:
Title: Reverse biased LED lighting off BEMF.
Post by: synchro1 on January 10, 2018, 04:54:09 PM
This was very tricky to video capture because I don't have three hands. I finally got it wired to light the reverse biased LED connected to the top of the coil and the bottom of the coil between the oscillating lead and the coil itself. I can fix the electrodes in place and light a whole bank of LED'S this way now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2CmxkPLgVs (http://www.energeticforum.com/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DW2CmxkPLgVs)


Title: Oscillator lighting 3 LEDS off flyback.
Post by: synchro1 on January 11, 2018, 06:02:15 PM
Here's a video of the oscillator lighting a small bank of reverse biased LEDs: Next I plan to add additional LEDS to the rail to see how many it can illuminate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiCXHFwpIUs (http://www.energeticforum.com/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DJiCXHFwpIUs)
Title: LED anode and cathod
Post by: synchro1 on January 12, 2018, 02:39:59 AM

Here's a schematic of an LED identifying the long electrode as the anode or positive;
Title: 12 LEDS illuminated by oscillator flyback.
Post by: synchro1 on January 12, 2018, 06:42:12 PM
Here's a video of the oscillator lighting 12 LEDs on flyback. The 3 volts D.C. will only light 1. Frequency increases LED light intensity: The anode or positive electrode of the LED, (The longer prong) must connect to the negative contact and the negative or shorter prong to the positive end of the coil to light up from the oscillating flyback. The 3 volts of D.C. current will only light one LED connected the other way around, the way they're designed to work, with the anode to the positive and the cathode to the negative pole of the two AA batteries in series.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BDAX8Lm1kY (http://www.energeticforum.com/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D6BDAX8Lm1kY)


The power that illuminates the 12 LEDS in this video is strictly a function of the copper mass in the spring coil and core permeability, not the input from the AA batteries. This is a clear example of an Overunity generator in action!
Title: Oscillator coil inductance.
Post by: synchro1 on January 12, 2018, 08:13:40 PM

I measured the oscillator coil inductance at .010 mH (milli henrys) with the AA batteries acting as a coil core and .004 mH alone as an air core coil. This test demonstrates that the AA batteries act as a very powerful core material, more then doubling inductance over the air core. This factor alone more than doubles the magnetic field in the spring coil and more than doubles the flyback power from the field collapse.
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 13, 2018, 12:31:03 AM
The difference between an a/c signal (reactive power)
and a pulsed d.c. signal (negative inductance)
is the off-cycle.
No current is drawn from the source during field collapse.
if the load is powered only during this time
The power through the source is only a factor of the induction.
The Lenz/Lorentz force is only fighting the free-space induction
not the current from the source.
There are no changes from source to load.

The source basically does not see the load.

Title: LED gain
Post by: synchro1 on January 13, 2018, 03:35:49 PM

LEDS oscillate and generate power identically to the way the "Battery Magnet Oscillator" does; Adding LEDS in a string may appear to dim the individual bulb, but the overall light output increases with the addition of more bulbs.


A photonic reactor with photo generating panels attached to the inside of a ball with a sphere of LEDS in the center would let us plug into it and run our campsites.
Title: Reed switch.
Post by: synchro1 on January 14, 2018, 12:06:45 PM
A "REED SWITCH" would run this oscillator best! The contact can't be beat confined by a vacuum tube.

"Skycollection" could run his "Hexafilar coil" and bank of LEDS with two C cell batteries in series as a coil core and a magnet at the base in series with the Reed switch.
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on January 14, 2018, 03:12:06 PM
Mag amp effect.
Another advantage of this magnet battery oscillator is that the permanent magnet field that penetrates the copper coil acts as an electrical resistor, (Mag amp effect) increasing circuit efficiency.
Title: Ignition coil lighting
Post by: synchro1 on January 14, 2018, 03:39:32 PM

Bosch patented the "Magneto" and out of it evolved the ignition coil that involved a set of breaker points to jump a spark. Viewing the Reed switch as ignition points one can see how this magnet battery oscillator is really a "Bosch Ignition lighting system".
Title: Transmitter receiver.
Post by: synchro1 on January 14, 2018, 06:55:39 PM
Constructing a receiver of the same dimensions as the transmitter magnet battery oscillator, could broadcast and receive morse code with an interrupter button!
Title: Reed switch oscillator.
Post by: synchro1 on January 15, 2018, 07:57:09 PM
Replacing the "Magnet Contact" with a Reed switch evolves this circuit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfN5VfZdAPY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfN5VfZdAPY)


The only difference is that we are wrapping the AA battery to substitute as and replace the ferrite coil core!
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on January 15, 2018, 08:39:53 PM
Here's George Chaniotakis 16 X over unity with a vintage Reed switch:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czI-wvjLork (http://www.energeticforum.com/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DczI-wvjLork)
Title: Re: Negative Inductance and measure of Magnetic force.
Post by: synchro1 on January 16, 2018, 01:22:34 PM
Here's George's version of the "Magnet battery Oscillator". The "Reed switch" is doing the work of the contact: