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Author Topic: Confirmation of OU devices and claims  (Read 12587 times)

Offline Erfinder

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #60 on: November 12, 2017, 04:16:24 PM »
But it is his old !shit! that i wish to replicate,not some super seeded model.
I wish to build the one depicted in Johns schematic.

If you wish to show me,then that would be appreciated.
If you dont wish to show me,then that would be understandable.

If what you have is not related to the machine i wish to build(the one depicted in the schematic i posted),then there is not much point wasting your time doing so.

If it is related to the V2,then by all means--im all ears and eyes.

Brad


do your thing..... we aren't on the same page, I couldn't agree with you more, there is not much point wasting my time here with you....

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #60 on: November 12, 2017, 04:16:24 PM »

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #61 on: November 12, 2017, 05:09:02 PM »
Well thats not very good math Wattsup.

So now the generator wheels are 1/4 the size,but we have 4 times as many.
This means--no loss/no gain.

You just made 3 left turns,and ended back where you started from :D

@tinman

Wrong. This means you can now load those generator coils and the true full leverage of the flywheel can be used to cut through the drag generated. No drag no output. It's just a question of where do you want to fight the drag, near the shaft or on the outer edges. The full rotational energy is exerted on the central shaft, not on the outer edges.

The other misnomer in his design. Generator coils in series will produce high voltage. But to keep the battery charged, anything above 14vdc and 20% of the battery amps rating will be wasted because the battery simply cannot use it. High voltage low amps on the battery will just eventually render the battery a reactive source that will have no or little amperage available and eventually die.

The first thing you need to do on such a project is to produce a battery baseline otherwise you are just winging it. Use a standard trickle charger and charge the battery until it shows charged at xx volts. Then run any 12 volt device with the battery and see how long it takes for it to fall to 11 vdc. Never let the battery go below 10.5 vdc. Then run your bedini thingy until the battery reaches the same charged voltage level which will be very quick with those high volts. Then do the same DC load test and see how long it now takes for the battery to fall to 11vdc. You will see that the later will take minutes. The bedini farce is thinking reactive battery charge has value, but it does not.

Once you do that, you will quickly realize that those generators coils are better off stay all in parallel or some in series to get the 12-14vdc charge voltage then those sets paralleled to increase the amperage charge. That will balance out the system to be totally complimentary to battery.

wattsup



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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #62 on: November 12, 2017, 05:24:40 PM »

I responded out of respect,  you are aware that Tinman does not want me posting here....so....I hope I answered your question....  I will be respecting his wish from here on out.

Thank you for your curtesy, and the mention of the magnetic offset.

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #63 on: November 12, 2017, 05:36:30 PM »
Thank you for your curtesy, and the mention of the magnetic offset.


You're welcome.....


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #64 on: November 12, 2017, 05:54:40 PM »
Looks that acceleration under load is coming back. Thane Heins has replicated one of romerouk old generators.

romerouk version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7e6Lu_YSCo&t=222s

Thane Heins Oct 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1vQ7t3A9oc

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #65 on: November 12, 2017, 06:55:47 PM »
This is the Youtube video made by the guy who said he got his build based on the Watson motor
to self run:

Bedini Machine aka Watson Machine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdiK8sb81XU


From what I understood, he said that once the motor was up to speed, he switched out the
start battery and he said the device was powering itself and charging the battery at the same time.


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #66 on: November 13, 2017, 04:30:10 AM »
This is the Youtube video made by the guy who said he got his build based on the Watson motor
to self run:

Bedini Machine aka Watson Machine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdiK8sb81XU


From what I understood, he said that once the motor was up to speed, he switched out the
start battery and he said the device was powering itself and charging the battery at the same time.

So i wonder what happened,as that was back in 2012.

I also think we can get the machine to run a little smoother than that one.

I see a lot of voltage measurements,but no current or total P/in P/out measurements.

There is no follow up video's after this one on his channel,so i suspect that it did not end up working as he thought it was.


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #67 on: November 13, 2017, 05:45:46 AM »
Ok,first video on the build is up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXanuYHVrcE


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #68 on: November 13, 2017, 06:04:38 AM »
Dose any one know what part that is in the schematic below?.



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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #69 on: November 13, 2017, 07:14:18 AM »
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Offline Erfinder

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #70 on: November 13, 2017, 11:36:38 AM »
Ok,first video on the build is up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXanuYHVrcE


Brad


If you change the magneto from the style depicted, this no longer qualifies as a replication.... 

and for the record....the magneto in johns diagram doubles as a motor... now I know what you're thinking, assuming you are considering what I'm saying, "the induced is higher than the applied"....  I entertained that very same thought and through careful observation was brought to the profound conclusion that it doesn't matter.... 

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #71 on: November 13, 2017, 12:00:38 PM »
Dose any one know what part that is in the schematic below?.

Brad


It's clear he wasn't really interested in proper measurement, if you watch any of the old videos from back when this schematic was drawn, he really didn't know how to make proper measurement....neither here nor there... with that said we can rule out any sort of meter... 


What we know is that he's dumping caps into batteries, we are provided with suggestions regarding their capacity and voltage prior to being dumped..... all that to say this....maybe, just maybe, if rumors regarding batteries exploding when hit with high voltage cap dumps are true, maybe that circle with the arrow in it is a variable resistor.  Throw away some of that energy before it gets to the battery...... yeah...that's what I would have done if I were in his position back in 84......


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #72 on: November 13, 2017, 01:13:49 PM »
Ok,this is the first spin up,so as we can check voltage and frequency.

The whistling Gypsy  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmDlOLtvISo

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #73 on: November 13, 2017, 01:35:39 PM »

 

 

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If you change the magneto from the style depicted, this no longer qualifies as a replication....

As i state in my next video(just posted),if you think there is an operational difference between the one i am using,and the one John was using,then please provide details of the difference.

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and for the record....the magneto in johns diagram doubles as a motor... now I know what you're thinking, assuming you are considering what I'm saying, "the induced is higher than the applied"....  I entertained that very same thought and through careful observation was brought to the profound conclusion that it doesn't matter....

I have given this some thought,and can think of a couple of different ways to achieve a motoring action from the magneto.


Brad


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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
« Reply #74 on: November 13, 2017, 01:40:26 PM »

It's clear he wasn't really interested in proper measurement, if you watch any of the old videos from back when this schematic was drawn, he really didn't know how to make proper measurement....neither here nor there... with that said we can rule out any sort of meter... 


What we know is that he's dumping caps into batteries, we are provided with suggestions regarding their capacity and voltage prior to being dumped..... all that to say this....maybe, just maybe, if rumors regarding batteries exploding when hit with high voltage cap dumps are true, maybe that circle with the arrow in it is a variable resistor.  Throw away some of that energy before it gets to the battery...... yeah...that's what I would have done if I were in his position back in 84......

John states in that quote i posted a few replies back,that the switch was there so as he could turn off the battery charging cycle when the battery voltage got to high.

It would be nice to have a complete schematic,if you think the one he supplied was incomplete--missing the bits that turn the magneto into a motor at some point of each cycle.

It's hard to make an exact replication,when people keep saying thats not the whole circuit,but they too cannot provide the whole circuit--nor can it be located anywhere on the net.

Brad

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Re: Confirmation of OU devices and claims
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