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Author Topic: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....  (Read 14372 times)

Offline Magluvin

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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #240 on: November 07, 2017, 10:13:26 AM »


thank you would be a fun place to start....


would be interesting if someone finally got it....yeah...


get it first.....

Well I do say thanks for bringing a lot of interesting ideas to the table. Ya know, Im slow. It takes me a while to get things down. Like I need to read things more than once, or watch a movie more than 5 times to seem like I got it all together as to what exactly happened. Like people say they always notice new things the second time watching, well I notice new things of importance to the story seemingly every time I watch it. But once I know it I know a lot.  Some people pick things up fast. Sometimes i just get frustrated with myself. Ive had a lot of ups and downs here.  Lately  with the resonance Im feeling up. But there is times a battle to keep feeling up. then the subject becomes far from focus.  I dunno.

Anyway, Ill need to jump back and go over the stuff youve said and see what comes of it.

Mags

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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #241 on: November 07, 2017, 11:36:56 AM »
Was going to say this earlier but was distracted..   After a week of messing with the spark coil circuits, the smell of ozone from the sparks was definitely there. But I still seem to smell it like when I go home, or at the grocery store. Does it stick to your clothes? Or have I had too much over the past week?

Mags


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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #242 on: November 07, 2017, 11:45:33 AM »
Well I do say thanks for bringing a lot of interesting ideas to the table. Ya know, Im slow. It takes me a while to get things down. Like I need to read things more than once, or watch a movie more than 5 times to seem like I got it all together as to what exactly happened. Like people say they always notice new things the second time watching, well I notice new things of importance to the story seemingly every time I watch it. But once I know it I know a lot.  Some people pick things up fast. Sometimes i just get frustrated with myself. Ive had a lot of ups and downs here.  Lately  with the resonance Im feeling up. But there is times a battle to keep feeling up. then the subject becomes far from focus.  I dunno.

Anyway, Ill need to jump back and go over the stuff youve said and see what comes of it.

Mags

Mags


All I'll say here is the collectively accepted view on resonance is severely limited.....  where we want to end up, there is no value in isolating the one from the many.... 


Contemplate how to produce ozone with no spark, no arcs nor glow discharge.........




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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #243 on: November 07, 2017, 11:48:42 AM »
Was going to say this earlier but was distracted..   After a week of messing with the spark coil circuits, the smell of ozone from the sparks was definitely there. But I still seem to smell it like when I go home, or at the grocery store. Does it stick to your clothes? Or have I had too much over the past week?

Mags


it's not just ozone being produced, not in my machines at least....  I run my large machine for 2min, my room reeks of ozone and potentially nitrogen for three days.....  if the machine runs for longer than 5min, I cannot enter the room for a day....


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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #244 on: November 07, 2017, 11:56:59 AM »

All I'll say here is the collectively accepted view on resonance is severely limited.....  where we want to end up, there is no value in isolating the one from the many.... 


Contemplate how to produce ozone with no spark, no arcs nor glow discharge.........

Well if your talking about more than one resonance helping to give a gain, Im seeing it in some speaker boxes. The dual chamber reflex is tuned (in my case) 25hz and 50hz and the difference in output at 25hz in that box is greater than a normal ported box of the same size only tuned to 25hz. A 4th order and especially 6th order bandpass can be tuned where both resonant freq can be brought so close that the output at that freq is just stupid loud. All using the same input level for each case.

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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #244 on: November 07, 2017, 11:56:59 AM »
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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #245 on: November 07, 2017, 12:16:27 PM »
Well if your talking about more than one resonance helping to give a gain, Im seeing it in some speaker boxes. The dual chamber reflex is tuned (in my case) 25hz and 50hz and the difference in output at 25hz in that box is greater than a normal ported box of the same size only tuned to 25hz. A 4th order and especially 6th order bandpass can be tuned where both resonant freq can be brought so close that the output at that freq is just stupid loud. All using the same input level for each case.

Mags


what i'm saying mags is that the accepted view be it with the boxes, or electrical circuits, folk are only concerned with a single frequency....  look at nature man, please!  we observe gain as accumulation over time (what is time to nature)....  with specific emphasis on superimposition onto the fundamental... like building a seashell..... try to think of resonance in "chords" rather than single frequencies...


folk don't understand what I suggest....but they don't really try either....  write it all off if you want, but at the end of the day...  you have claims of 18 percent gain from one, whatever gains you yourself see in your endeavours, or nature's method which is the one I am chasing....  I am not intersted in 18 percent or whatever it would be when scaled up...  not the least bit curious about what you got....  Nature is in a class by itself....  thousands of generations in a single seed...show me you comprehend how it accomplishes that task, and I will follow you anywhere!

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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #246 on: November 07, 2017, 12:33:50 PM »

what i'm saying mags is that the accepted view be it with the boxes, or electrical circuits, folk are only concerned with a single frequency....  look at nature man, please!  we observe gain as accumulation over time (what is time to nature)....  with specific emphasis on superimposition onto the fundamental... like building a seashell..... try to think of resonance in "chords" rather than single frequencies...


folk don't understand what I suggest....but they don't really try either....  write it all off if you want, but at the end of the day...  you have claims of 18 percent gain from one, whatever gains you yourself see in your endeavours, or nature's method which is the one I am chasing....  I am not intersted in 18 percent or whatever it would be when scaled up...  not the least bit curious about what you got....  Nature is in a class by itself....  thousands of generations in a single seed...show me you comprehend how it accomplishes that task, and I will follow you anywhere!

Apparently some one forgot about the big fire in the sky,which is where all of nature gets it's energy from  ::)

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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #246 on: November 07, 2017, 12:33:50 PM »
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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #247 on: November 07, 2017, 12:54:32 PM »
Sucks its energy from

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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #248 on: November 07, 2017, 01:05:09 PM »

what i'm saying mags is that the accepted view be it with the boxes, or electrical circuits, folk are only concerned with a single frequency....  look at nature man, please!  we observe gain as accumulation over time (what is time to nature)....  with specific emphasis on superimposition onto the fundamental... like building a seashell..... try to think of resonance in "chords" rather than single frequencies...


folk don't understand what I suggest....but they don't really try either....  write it all off if you want, but at the end of the day...  you have claims of 18 percent gain from one, whatever gains you yourself see in your endeavours, or nature's method which is the one I am chasing....  I am not intersted in 18 percent or whatever it would be when scaled up...  not the least bit curious about what you got....  Nature is in a class by itself....  thousands of generations in a single seed...show me you comprehend how it accomplishes that task, and I will follow you anywhere!

Well Im on the same path of more than 1 resonance since before this thread. Ive already laid it out in the speaker thread.  And the gains Im seeing are not just 18%.  Whether the outcome yet is not overunity, from the original efficiency of the speaker itself, Im seing hundreds of percent in eff gains. There are already speakers that are 100% eff, just they are costly. So add the resonance gains to that and we are 100s of % overunity.

But you seem to be on the end of it that I wished to be a goal of mine once I figured out the circuit analogy of the speaker boxs.  But you are apparently there already.

Its all in that thread. Not making it up. ;)

Mags

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« Reply #249 on: November 07, 2017, 01:21:23 PM »
Well Im on the same path of more than 1 resonance since before this thread. Ive already laid it out in the speaker thread.  And the gains Im seeing are not just 18%.  Whether the outcome yet is not overunity, from the original efficiency of the speaker itself, Im seing hundreds of percent in eff gains. There are already speakers that are 100% eff, just they are costly. So add the resonance gains to that and we are 100s of % overunity.

But you seem to be on the end of it that I wished to be a goal of mine once I figured out the circuit analogy of the speaker boxs.  But you are apparently there already.

Its all in that thread. Not making it up. ;)

Mags


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« Reply #250 on: November 07, 2017, 01:44:22 PM »
There is a box I want to try soon that has a 3rd tuned chamber that is a separate enclosure with just 1 port into another ported chamber. This one is new to me this year. Im hoping on it adding gain also. Ill be making 4 boxes for comparison. 1 sealed, 1 ported, 1 dual chamber and the forth a ported with the extra ported chamber.

But I think this is good. Now that I know that your doing the same but with circuitry, this will be a more interesting venture to add other examples for more understanding.


Well, It was a productive talk for me. Thanks

Been finishing some vape hukah handles last night and now for an 8hr shift.  Then sleeps.

Mags

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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #251 on: November 07, 2017, 04:25:28 PM »
There is a box I want to try soon that has a 3rd tuned chamber that is a separate enclosure with just 1 port into another ported chamber. This one is new to me this year. Im hoping on it adding gain also. Ill be making 4 boxes for comparison. 1 sealed, 1 ported, 1 dual chamber and the forth a ported with the extra ported chamber.

But I think this is good. Now that I know that your doing the same but with circuitry, this will be a more interesting venture to add other examples for more understanding.


Well, It was a productive talk for me. Thanks

Been finishing some vape hukah handles last night and now for an 8hr shift.  Then sleeps.

Mags


Mags,


I am not talking about three sine waves.....I know I used the word chords, and I am assuming you drew your conclusion that we were on the same page form that...we aren't....  think about the idea I presented regarding the production of a perfect square (more accurate would be "rectangular") wave...  You cannot build a perfect square with three superimposed sines, Fourier informs us that we need an infinite series of sines with very specific relations to one another....  You cannot engineer these relations......  My view on resonance far removed from anything being discussed anywhere...  I am willing to help you understand my perspective, but you got to shed some baggage first....




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« Reply #252 on: November 07, 2017, 06:36:05 PM »
What is wrong with you people. Supposed that this is a hobby which gives you pleasure!!!
Tinman :D You know that you are also erfinder's follower...don't you??? Each time he participates to a thread you are always there. You just haven't realize it yet.. ;D

guys..."...currents of a special character..." Have you ever noticed that Tesla's description??? Does that mean something to anyone?

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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #253 on: November 07, 2017, 07:30:02 PM »
What is wrong with you people. Supposed that this is a hobby which gives you pleasure!!!
Tinman :D You know that you are also erfinder's follower...don't you??? Each time he participates to a thread you are always there. You just haven't realize it yet.. ;D

guys..."...currents of a special character..." Have you ever noticed that Tesla's description??? Does that mean something to anyone?


I have asked this question before, referencing Tesla....  got a lot of cricket noise for my troubles..  What do you think it means?


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Re: The Old Standard Ignition System. Battery. Coil. Points. And Condenser....
« Reply #254 on: November 07, 2017, 08:21:06 PM »
My take on this is that he speaks about displacement current. When a voltage potential difference between two metals changes in time,  an accompanied "special" current manifests.


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