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Author Topic: Can someone test magnesium metal + acrylic paint as powercell ???  (Read 2287 times)


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Re: Can someone test magnesium metal + acrylic paint as powercell ???
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2017, 06:16:56 PM »
Do you mean 0.8 mV or 0.8 Volts ?

0.8 MilliVolts is just 800 MicoVolts, so that could also be measurement errors....

Try Magnesium as the first electrode qand the 2nd electrode with the electrode made out of Coconut Husk Shells active carbon mixed with Acrylic paint...
That will give great Voltage and current....
Use MgCl mixed with MgSO4 or
just Na2So4 as electrolyte and use a good seperator cloth...

Regards, Stefan.

First Experiment :

Mixed - Acrylic Paint + Active Carbon

Pasted it on aluminium foil !!   (0,420 Volt)

Second Experiment :

Mixed - magnesium , acrylic paint , active carbon

Pasted in on aluminium foil !!   (0,932 Volt)

Sincerly - Kai Anders Wold

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Re: Can someone test magnesium metal + acrylic paint as powercell ???
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2017, 05:54:51 AM »
Did a vid on these Blackout Buddy H2O add water emergency lights

The first one I took apart weeks ago I didnt fully investigate it then as the power was still out here with the hurricane. So I set it aside.

That one seems to be 3 cells and this new one shown activated  with water in the vid seems to have 4 cells.  Maybe it was an upgraded one and the other was a previous version, or the other way around.

So these with whatever the electrolyte is used seem to be about 1v per cell. After cutting off the leds to measure unloaded I go4 about 4v total. In the 2,6v range with the leds as loads.  So My earlier post on thinking it was possibly just a single cell was incorrect.

https://youtu.be/E0OrCfcarfA

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Re: Can someone test magnesium metal + acrylic paint as powercell ???
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2017, 07:02:38 AM »
Went out for a midnight snack and when I got back the battery was at about 4.6v. So I added more water to make sure it had all it needs and the voltage went down to about 2v for a bit and slowly climbed. Then I applied pressure with my finger to the battery and the voltage went above 5v to about 5.4v.   So I charged my cam battery as it was low. And here is the update vid below.  So these cells can produce about 1.35v per cell.  Further testing can be done and Ill do one more update after a few hours to see where it is then.  So applying pressure shows that it is making more volts as it is probably squeezing the electrolyte pads thinner and a closer proximity from plate to plate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYppklVpxa4

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Re: Can someone test magnesium metal + acrylic paint as powercell ???
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Re: Can someone test magnesium metal + acrylic paint as powercell ???
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2017, 12:22:51 PM »
Not the material ,but the arrangement :
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2016/0315367.html

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Re: Can someone test magnesium metal + acrylic paint as powercell ???
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2017, 04:10:03 PM »
Not the material ,but the arrangement :
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2016/0315367.html

Hi thanks for the information !!

Could be important things inside the patent application !!

My version does have 0.5-0.8 Voltage ready for first use.

Only problem is dielectric leakage !!

The setup in the patent needs to be charged up !!

Sincerly - Kai Anders Wold

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Re: Can someone test magnesium metal + acrylic paint as powercell ???
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Re: Can someone test magnesium metal + acrylic paint as powercell ???
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2017, 01:56:34 AM »
What ever the electrolyte used in these blackout buddy lights, it seems to be of a design to only last a very limited time. Without a load on the battery I had shown in my vids, it corrodes the plates fast. Less than 1v from 5.4v peak 2 days later.  The one champion is still going at my apt. Not bright but still enough as a night light for kittys food. Possibly it had a different electrolyte and the later or earlier versions are of a different makeup. Like the first one I took apart had 3 cells and seems like the others I have taken apart have 4..

Mags

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Re: Can someone test magnesium metal + acrylic paint as powercell ???
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2017, 03:22:22 PM »
Hi magluvin, I wonder if you think this product is scalable in order to produce a bug out buddy that would be able to charge a cell phone because in an emergency situation that would be a valuable tool. I guess the question is can this be scaled up by adding cells thanks

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« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2017, 03:36:52 AM »
Hi magluvin, I wonder if you think this product is scalable in order to produce a bug out buddy that would be able to charge a cell phone because in an emergency situation that would be a valuable tool. I guess the question is can this be scaled up by adding cells thanks

Hey OC

It would take some work to figure out. The thing is, lots of batteries are good for 10yrs and more now.  Im not sure magnesium is the best route for this. I had just shown it for the topic

I have rechargeable AA and AAA that I have been using for 5yrs and longer and they still keep going.

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« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2017, 06:15:22 AM »
Hey OC

It would take some work to figure out. The thing is, lots of batteries are good for 10yrs and more now.  Im not sure magnesium is the best route for this. I had just shown it for the topic

I have rechargeable AA and AAA that I have been using for 5yrs and longer and they still keep going.

Mags

More on this...

In my latest experience, the high end Duracells can be slow charged many times. Also upper end energizer alkaline can be slow charged many times.  I keep the input on my variable supply to max 1.8v per cell at 50ma, and disconnect when the voltage is up to 1.8v for a half an hour. Even did 100ma, no prob so far and they get warm in the middle rang of time till finished  When I do this with cheaper cells the have more tendency to leak.  Ive never had a rechargable AA or AAA leak. Never.  I dont by them cheap no names online. I just spend for the best and i definitely get the best.

As for the slow charging of the ones I show above, they are built better. The reasons batteries leak is they are not made to be sealed well in their casings. Not made to handle heat from hard use.  The better ones are.  Heat developed inside while recharging them will break the seal. Heat while using them will break the seal. The pressures developed inside from chemical degradation from sitting in a drawer or in a device, most always after being used for some time, will leak.   Im in the belief that the duracells and alk energizers when NOT left lower than fully charged will avoid those eventual chemical degradation pressures for a much longer period than normal. It is way more rare with even carbon cells that you will find leaked batts in the drawer that are new and not used yet, than a previously used battery. Even in a flashlight, if never turned on, they should last a longer time than previously used and left to sit.

Like the better of brands that have 10yrs shelf life. They have very good casings and seals.

I dont charge these cells unattended, for obvious reasons, but have had great luck with these upper end cells. I like these over the rechargeables more for their higher voltage per cell. You can see the difference in flashlight brightness, etc.

Im fairly happy with battery energy density of today.  I worry a lot about more energy density to come. Imagine a battery pack the size of your garage made of the same lithium cells in the tesla cars. Each pack in their cars contains 444 panasonic 18650 cells. The best you can get. Ive had one of these blow in my hand. You woulldnt want 1 to blow in your garage bench let alone 444 of them. It was being charged and it released pressure and some juice on my bench. I quickly grabbed it to put outside the garage door. Half way to the door, it happened. Shooting 2 to 3ft flames from each end like a dual ended light saber gone wrong. Burned my hand some but saved the equipment on my bench. In the end it worked out for the best.  Now I will only charge them in a metal cabinet. Look on YT for litium battery fires, explosions, going off in peoples pockets from vape devices. looks like a $100 fireworks display in his pants. One look at that and imagine more energy dense devices.
Maybe they develop superman containers for them, I dunno.  I just dont want to take those chances if I dont have to. If they were so smart now these things wouldnt be a problem today. They cant handle the energy density we have today to prevent all bad possibilities. Look at nuke power plant issues news in the past 10 years and you will be like, dang, I never knew. Just a few...

Fukoshima. Nebraska plant due to floods. Alabama due to tornado ripping up 7 power lines COMING to the plant that handled the COOLING.  60 thousand gal of diesel a day to keep the generators going to cool till those INCOMING lines were fixed.  Insanity from one end of the story to the other. Why cant the plant provide its own cooling electricity?? Are they even producing electricity there??? Or is it fake and just there to make plutonium????  lol Nuts.

That list of news in the last 10 years is huge.

So back to the garage full of 18650 cells.  Now lets look into the future. That garage full is now the size of your bench.  Further, the size of a lunch box. 

If in all 3 cases the energy density is the same, which of the 3 would be MOST dangerous? Would you bring that lunch box into your home, or even anywhere near it? ???

This is on the high end of my list for reasons why we need OU devices. Power on demand instead of small nuke like devices in our homes, cars and devices.

Mags

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Re: Can someone test magnesium metal + acrylic paint as powercell ???
« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2017, 06:10:35 PM »
More facts about my hybrid energy device :

Battery Super Capacitor Hybrid Device (BSD) !!

Aluminium Anode (Battery Type Electrode)

Acrylic Paint Catode (Capacitive Electrode)

Check out the pdfs in the zip archive !!

Sincerly - Kai Anders Wold



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Finally found a voltage booster !!
« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2017, 01:19:30 PM »
Hi

I mixed the following in a cup :

Smashed Iodine Pills , Acrylic Paint , Water

Aluminium foil partially submerged in the cup.

Measured the voltage and got ca 0.960 Volt

Orginal Experiment = Maximum 0.800 Volt

Only problem is dielectric leakage !!

Iodine works as a catalysator (Boosting Conductivity Of Polymers)

Check out attached pdf - Conductive Polymers + Catalyst

Sincerly - Kai Anders Wold


 

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