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vikram_gupta11

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #90 on: February 05, 2018, 05:35:18 AM »
Dear Sir,
I did an experiment with a ball and a spring.when I released the ball from some height then the tube moved down side and spr8 get compressed.it is clearly showing that the ball will work to press the piston as well as lift up counterweight.
The lever analysis even proving overunity in it .
The initial position as per sketch ( left side) has solved all problems in it.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #91 on: February 05, 2018, 08:59:47 AM »
In a clock system if we connect a load then it will stopped immediately but in this mechanism load is not a problem.as ball is free to generate energy + providing momentum.
So it is not a pendulum based clock.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #92 on: February 05, 2018, 05:11:30 PM »
Dear Sir,
If a 10 kg ball is falling down from 2 meter height and again getting it's initial height using 3.6 Joule energy and again Falling down and getting back its initial height then why there is no overunity.
The whole game is depend on lock system and latch pin in this mechanism.
My earnest request to you that you please reconsider it.
I shall be very grateful to you.

sm0ky2

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #93 on: February 05, 2018, 08:57:05 PM »
The mechanism is in an unusual format
But the more I analyze different test models
I see it similar to this system


https://youtu.be/hesfXBcgV0s


the small difference in the arc path vs straight drop
should result in roughly the same velocity with similar
masses.
The energy analysis should also be similar.


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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #94 on: February 06, 2018, 02:17:00 AM »
Dear Sir,
You are correct.but in this mechanism the impact energy or velocity of ball is important not the velocity of whole device as ball is working to create energy.
We will have to ignore the energy at the time of construction as the input is almost 0 as per Left side sketch as the device is already in this position that even we can drop the ball with our breath.
Once we ignore the energy at the time of construction the energy analysis will also support overunity in this mechanism as this device will oscillate forever.
You please ignore the input energy.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #95 on: February 06, 2018, 02:56:16 AM »
I'm insisting to ignore the input energy because there will be need to set up the device only one time as after that the device will get back this position due to itself power.
So energy analysis will also support overunity.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #96 on: February 09, 2018, 07:10:11 AM »
Dear Sir,
I did an experiment regarding input.this time effort was so less that we can drop the ball using minimal input.i just had to tilt the tube only 1 cm.and ball is falling down.
Clearly showing Overunity and solving all problems.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #97 on: February 09, 2018, 09:04:42 AM »
Dear Sir,
I did an experiment regarding input and got success.this time effort was so less that we can drop the ball using minimal input.i just had to tilt the tube only 1 cm.and ball is falling down.
The input can be reduce more.
Clearly showing Overunity and solving all problems.

sm0ky2

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #98 on: February 09, 2018, 04:17:29 PM »
What materials do you need to complete the construction of a ‘self-running’ system?


Springs or elastic materials can be obtained from recycled items.


Or you could use secondary lever mechanisms to store the kinetic energy of the ball,
which then tilt back and reset the main lever.


should be a simple next-step, to test if it can run itself.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #99 on: February 16, 2018, 05:01:12 PM »
Hello,
Overunity is being proven mathematically as well as technically.
See the video.

https://youtu.be/isfw6JMfUbw
See the sketch as per my video.

The ball weight is 400 gram

Distance from fulcrum  of tube 0.35 meter

The ball is resting 1 meter

Now use pythagoras equation to calculate exact distance of ball.

It will be 1.060 m.

Now use torque formula

Torque= rf=rmg

So torque of ball is 0.400*1.060=0.424

So counterweight will be only 424 gram to Balanced the seesaw.

But I took 500 gram to take advantage of heavy counterweight. So seesaw will be tilted .

Now if I am releasing the ball from 1 meter height  and it will travelled 2 meter.

Calculate bthe kinetic energy.

Mgh=0.400*10*2=8 Joule

And counterweight will be rotate more than 180 degree.

The reason is that the ball will have to lift up only 24 gram weight

As counterweight is 424 gram so the will do two work at first it will work to balance the seesaw then the energy will work to lift up only 24 gram weight.

This is the main reason of overunity in it.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #100 on: February 16, 2018, 05:04:53 PM »
.i will have to tilt the counterweight only 91 degree from rest position then there will be no need as due to heavy weight of counterweight the device will get back it's initial position without any external influence.

If the device tilt 91 degree then take 40 cm.

Now use mgh

0.5*10*0.4=2 Joule

Impact is 8 Joule

Now tell me where I am wrong.


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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #101 on: February 19, 2018, 03:38:43 PM »
See the sketches carefully and work of latch pin.the latch pin will work to hold the ball and prevent it from reverse falling down.
The latch pin will be  spring based designed

sm0ky2

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #102 on: February 19, 2018, 09:02:02 PM »
Latch the ball inside the cup when you drop it in,
then the rotation will be less.


The ball falls out, therefore you are not lifting it back up.


The ball doesn’t have to just reach the 12 o’clock position of the arm,
but has to go all the way back up to where you dropped it from.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #103 on: February 20, 2018, 05:05:35 AM »
I have tested it .the ball is getting more height than  from where I dropped it.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #104 on: February 20, 2018, 05:27:56 AM »
Your next test should be to place the arm on
an axle, so you don’t hold it
then you can build your latch mechanisms