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Author Topic: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws  (Read 4062 times)

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2017, 09:24:40 AM »
Hello sir,
I know about it but I am talking about spring based piston generator not coil + magnet.as spring based generator will not create word of the kinetic energy of ball when ball hit it at the time of timing and reversing.
I already mentioned that the kinetic energy can be in increased by adding more box with the top of long tube but input same so the friction of generator can be compensated.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2017, 01:36:37 PM »
Hello sir,
I know about it but I am talking about spring based piston generator not coil + magnet.as spring based generator will not create word of the kinetic energy of ball when ball hit it at the time of timing and reversing.
I already mentioned that the kinetic energy can be in increased by adding more box with the top of long tube but input same so the friction of generator can be compensated.
An ideal spring does not take or give away kinetic energy. The mass will bounce up and down forever like a resonance system. The spring load itself does not apply or help the generator in any way. As soon as the generator is loaded, the spring will not longer bounce freely, but become slower and damped. Se it this way: A load works just like a shock absorber. A shock absorber picks up the kinetic energy so the car does not bounce out of control when driving on a bumpy road. The shock absorber becomes hot, because its job is to introduce friction to the resonance system.


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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2017, 04:32:19 PM »
Hello sir,
But in this device this will not happened .spring generator means if I use a wall made with flexible rubber and this rubber wall hit a piston generator mounted outside from the device then I don't thing that it will not bounce back.it will definitely bounce back.
One more thing if I use two piston generator mounted on the both end of long tube then the ball will also bounce back after transferring it's kinetic energy to the piston.
No need to worry about bounce back of ball as the counterweight will work to get the seesaw it's original position as there is no hurdle in it.
I have already mentioned that the system will get back it's initial position if ball fall down or doesn't but interesting point is kinetic energy of ball.
Now you will again raise a question regarding load that the load will create problem but ball is free to move in the tube so ball and generator will work separate ly .there will be no hurdle regarding load.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2017, 04:48:31 PM »
Hello sir,
If you will see closely in the video that ball has been stopped for a moment after hitting with top and again bounce back so  the generator will not work to create hurdle after connecting load .

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2017, 05:25:27 PM »
One more thing I forgot to tell you that when I took counterweight equal to the weight of ball500 gram and tilted the arm then the system get it's initial position also from 120 degree to 360 degree.
Now if I have a spring generator then it will be a mechanical advantage as fall is falling down at the time of tilting and reversing so the ball will bounce back more due to compressed spring .

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2017, 06:44:58 PM »
Hello sir,
But in this device this will not happened .spring generator means if I use a wall made with flexible rubber and this rubber wall hit a piston generator mounted outside from the device then I don't thing that it will not bounce back.it will definitely bounce back.
One more thing if I use two piston generator mounted on the both end of long tube then the ball will also bounce back after transferring it's kinetic energy to the piston.
No need to worry about bounce back of ball as the counterweight will work to get the seesaw it's original position as there is no hurdle in it.
I have already mentioned that the system will get back it's initial position if ball fall down or doesn't but interesting point is kinetic energy of ball.
Now you will again raise a question regarding load that the load will create problem but ball is free to move in the tube so ball and generator will work separate ly .there will be no hurdle regarding load.
How can you get energy out when the "spring" use all its stored kinetic energy to bounce the piston back?


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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2017, 04:55:16 AM »
Hello sir,
It is very simple if spring has stored all kinetic energy then it will release it also when ball will reversed as ball is free to move.the best example is" Hand power fan" to understand it.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2017, 11:31:25 AM »
Hello sir,
It is very simple if spring has stored all kinetic energy then it will release it also when ball will reversed as ball is free to move.the best example is" Hand power fan" to understand it.
Ok, but that means you cannot take energy out to run anything useful. The stored kinetic energy in the spring is not more than the kinetic energy applied from the piston, right?
So to achieve over unity, the spring must by magic create energy or pick up additional kinetic energy from some, yet unknown, energy source.
You must first understand that conservation of energy is constant everywhere in the observable universe. Then you must try to understand how to create energy from nothing. I believe that will be a very hard task that takes literally infinite time to figure out. I think you must travel that Sanatana Dharma (सनातन धर्म) to achieve over unity some day - well, actually not one day since that forever lasting road has no end :-)
Make a replica of the "device" below. With some modifications, it might be able to create energy instead of the world.


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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2017, 01:27:59 PM »
Dear Sir,
I have clearly shown and proven the kinetic energy of falling ball and you say that from where it will come.
If spring based piston generator doesn't work in the device then all Hydropower plant must be shut down as no energy will be generated.
The only difference is between this device and hydro power plants is input energy.in Hydropower the output will be less than input but in this mechanism output is more than input.
The spring can store 99% energy so I preferred the spring based generator.
But I clear your doubts about using coil+ magnet generator.
Ok.this generator can be also used in it but use this generator only halfway of tube.
Suppose if tube length is 120 cm then only 60 cm in middle of tube.
You will found same result.(overunity)

Edit: there will be need of very less kinetic energy in this mechanism to reverse it.you say that the coil+ magnet will work to slow the kinetic energy,yes you are correct but once ball pass the coil then it's kinetic energy will be increased again and this energy will be sufficient to reversed the device.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2017, 02:32:18 PM »
Dear Sir,
I have already studied very much about "Dharma and Darsan." The image you send me is of "Natraj".a God of energy destroyer not creator but I send you a image see it .you will get surprised that my device is very much similar to that replica.
Lord Vishnu an energy creator.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2017, 02:50:53 PM »
This is not a particular image.just type "Lord Vishnu in Khseer Sagar". The image shows if Lord Vishnu is sleeping in this position then energy is being created and billions universes are being created.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2017, 05:25:27 PM »
I would like to insist on one point that mass is important in it .so the device will also work in that case if we use coil + magnet generator but mass must not reduced.as mass is important factor in it.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2017, 10:00:17 PM »
I would like to insist on one point that mass is important in it .so the device will also work in that case if we use coil + magnet generator but mass must not reduced.as mass is important factor in it.
I guess I have to build one and measure input energy and output energy. Your system is simple, so it should not take long.
I already have a structure with a small flywheel with low loss ball bearings. I got to mount a seesaw on that one, with counterweight and a tube where the mass is falling down into.


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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2017, 05:07:55 AM »
Sure,test it.there is clear cut Overunity in it without any flaw.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2017, 06:55:45 AM »
The sketch is clearly proving overunity in this mechanism.
Consider that box are weight less so input will be same in both cases but kinetic energy of ball.?
No doubt kinetic energy will be increased in long tube.
Input less output more.

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