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Author Topic: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws  (Read 18820 times)

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #90 on: February 01, 2018, 06:40:11 PM »
Each time the ball moves, the center of gravity changes

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #91 on: February 04, 2018, 07:08:48 PM »
Dear Sir,
Each time center of gravity will be not changed due to counterweight.
 Seethe sketch.as per sketch the arm length is 2 meter.a 2 meter long tube is mounted on the right side arm in middle.
A 10 kg ball is in rest position and a " latch pin" will work to hold the ball.the latch pin will work in this way that the ball will fall down as per our desire.counterweight is 16 kg.so now total weight of device is 26 kg.
There will be two lock system which will work to lock and unlock the device.
: The device will be in rest position as per Left side sketch.once ball falls down then it will turn like right side sketch.
: The wonder is that if the device's initial position is as per Left side sketch then there will be need of lifting uup the device only 1 cm.
: So now input will be only 2.6 Joule but output will be 200 Joule as ball is falling down from 2 meter height.
After falling down the device will be positioned like left sketch and there will be again need of just 2.6 Joule energy.
 So input will be 2.6 Joule +1 Joule for lock mechanism.
Input=3.6 Joule
Now you will say that we will have to apply 3.6 Joule energy from outsource.
But not as you are forgetting that the ball has been stopped after transferring it's energy to a piston generator and this piston generator will work to generate energy to tilt the device again and again.


Though it will be a Oscillating device but main purpose is to get more output than input or overunity.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #92 on: February 04, 2018, 07:11:38 PM »
The impact energy of ball will do two work.
First it will provide momentum through pushing the piston generator and second the generator will work to generate energy due to kinetic energy of ball.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #93 on: February 04, 2018, 07:14:41 PM »
There are no issues like friction,heat air resistance in this mechanism as input is minimal and output is far greater in first effort.if first effort is providing overunity then it doesn't matter that it is Oscillating .
In this mechanism the ball is working to get overunity not the whole device.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #94 on: February 04, 2018, 07:24:17 PM »
Trying to simplify this so the math is more straightforward


Let us have a pendulum of the counterweight
So it hangs at bottom.


And the tube is to sit exactly at the pivot for the ball.
So that any motion left or right changes the ball


If there is extra energy, the ball will keep the pendulum moving.
and pendulum, in turn keeps the ball falling, tick-tock like a
self-powered clock.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #94 on: February 04, 2018, 07:24:17 PM »
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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #95 on: February 05, 2018, 04:49:56 AM »
Dear Sm0ky2 Sir,
You are correct it is like a self powered clock but what about input as input is very minimal(3.6 Joule) and kinetic energy of ball is 200 Joule.
There is a big difference between input and output.
As far as I think there is no need of calculating the energy at construction time .so we can get output as per our desire.
The device is getting back its initial position again so again input is 3.6 Joule and output 200 Joule.
We will have to extract impact energy of falling ball using generator .so the device will oscillate forever without extra energy.
Please reconsider it.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #96 on: February 05, 2018, 05:35:18 AM »
Dear Sir,
I did an experiment with a ball and a spring.when I released the ball from some height then the tube moved down side and spr8 get compressed.it is clearly showing that the ball will work to press the piston as well as lift up counterweight.
The lever analysis even proving overunity in it .
The initial position as per sketch ( left side) has solved all problems in it.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #96 on: February 05, 2018, 05:35:18 AM »
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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #97 on: February 05, 2018, 08:59:47 AM »
In a clock system if we connect a load then it will stopped immediately but in this mechanism load is not a problem.as ball is free to generate energy + providing momentum.
So it is not a pendulum based clock.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #98 on: February 05, 2018, 05:11:30 PM »
Dear Sir,
If a 10 kg ball is falling down from 2 meter height and again getting it's initial height using 3.6 Joule energy and again Falling down and getting back its initial height then why there is no overunity.
The whole game is depend on lock system and latch pin in this mechanism.
My earnest request to you that you please reconsider it.
I shall be very grateful to you.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #99 on: February 05, 2018, 08:57:05 PM »
The mechanism is in an unusual format
But the more I analyze different test models
I see it similar to this system


https://youtu.be/hesfXBcgV0s


the small difference in the arc path vs straight drop
should result in roughly the same velocity with similar
masses.
The energy analysis should also be similar.


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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #99 on: February 05, 2018, 08:57:05 PM »
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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #100 on: February 06, 2018, 02:17:00 AM »
Dear Sir,
You are correct.but in this mechanism the impact energy or velocity of ball is important not the velocity of whole device as ball is working to create energy.
We will have to ignore the energy at the time of construction as the input is almost 0 as per Left side sketch as the device is already in this position that even we can drop the ball with our breath.
Once we ignore the energy at the time of construction the energy analysis will also support overunity in this mechanism as this device will oscillate forever.
You please ignore the input energy.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #101 on: February 06, 2018, 02:56:16 AM »
I'm insisting to ignore the input energy because there will be need to set up the device only one time as after that the device will get back this position due to itself power.
So energy analysis will also support overunity.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #102 on: February 09, 2018, 07:10:11 AM »
Dear Sir,
I did an experiment regarding input.this time effort was so less that we can drop the ball using minimal input.i just had to tilt the tube only 1 cm.and ball is falling down.
Clearly showing Overunity and solving all problems.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #103 on: February 09, 2018, 09:04:42 AM »
Dear Sir,
I did an experiment regarding input and got success.this time effort was so less that we can drop the ball using minimal input.i just had to tilt the tube only 1 cm.and ball is falling down.
The input can be reduce more.
Clearly showing Overunity and solving all problems.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #104 on: February 09, 2018, 04:17:29 PM »
What materials do you need to complete the construction of a ‘self-running’ system?


Springs or elastic materials can be obtained from recycled items.


Or you could use secondary lever mechanisms to store the kinetic energy of the ball,
which then tilt back and reset the main lever.


should be a simple next-step, to test if it can run itself.

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