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Author Topic: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws  (Read 7072 times)

Offline vikram_gupta11

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #60 on: December 21, 2017, 10:58:28 AM »
In this mechanism the counterweights arm will be curved upside to locate the center of mass equal to fulcrum.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #60 on: December 21, 2017, 10:58:28 AM »

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #61 on: December 23, 2017, 05:12:12 AM »
Hello Webby Sir,
What's your thoughts?

Offline vikram_gupta11

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #62 on: December 23, 2017, 05:43:11 AM »
All mathematics is favour in this mechanism as well as technical.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #63 on: December 23, 2017, 05:43:45 AM »
There is a need of collaboration to build it completely.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #64 on: December 23, 2017, 06:47:59 AM »
Hello Sm0ky2 sir,
 your and other members guidance is important now.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #64 on: December 23, 2017, 06:47:59 AM »
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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #65 on: December 23, 2017, 08:30:19 AM »
Hello Webby Sir,
What's your thoughts?


So far I have no good input, but when time permits I am still trying more setups as far as angle and all that goes.


What I have so far seen is that the center of mass is lifted the equivalent value as the fall of the dropping mass.  I change the masses and small relationships but it still seems to stay the same.


This is why I asked a few ways of how you have things setup.  If the mass's are in line with the pivot or not and all that.  It does not matter if you bend the arm, it is where the mass is relative to the other mass and the pivot, all 3 points,  how they are connected to each other does not matter so much.


One thing I did find is that a sudden upwards thrust on the pivot will send the weight back over the top no problem,, so I would suggest using a very firm stand to hold the pivot so that it does not move.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #66 on: December 23, 2017, 11:17:34 AM »
Dear Webby Sir,
Did you mount the counterweight on the" Flip" side of arm?
As when I mounted both mass on a single side of arm the input was not good but when I mounted the counterweight on the flip side of arm then input was good.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #66 on: December 23, 2017, 11:17:34 AM »
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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #67 on: December 23, 2017, 04:51:56 PM »
Dear Webby Sir,
The device will work as per your expectation if we use a lock mechanism to hold counterweight after tilting the device.this lock mechanism will work in this way that it will be locked at the time of tilting the device after tilting it from 90 degree( as there is no problem up to 90 degree due to counterweight).
So that the counterweight will be lifted upside due to falling mass when the falling mas hit the upper side of tube.in this way the device will get momentum.
The lock system will be designed in this way that it will be unlocked due to energy falling counterweight as the counterweight will get momentum so as the whole device.
Now your main problem is solved.
As far as I think there will be need of maximum 5 joule energy to this lock mechanism.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #68 on: December 23, 2017, 05:35:54 PM »
The lock does not need any energy,, built those in the real world where you only had to blow on the release,, a little puff of air.


As I have time I will keep trying small changes and different offsets, the place relative to the pivot that the mass is relative to the other mass.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #69 on: December 23, 2017, 06:35:11 PM »
Dear Webby Sir,
You are correct that lock doesn't need any energy but I want to tell you that it will work to prevent the falling of counterweight after tilting the device from 90 degree so that the counterweight could move up to provide momentum to the device and decreasing input and increasing leverage.
But you are expert so I think you better than me.
Thank you sir.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #69 on: December 23, 2017, 06:35:11 PM »
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Offline webby1

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #70 on: December 23, 2017, 06:51:48 PM »
I am no expert, I just like playing with things.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #71 on: December 23, 2017, 06:55:27 PM »
But you can also play better than me.

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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #72 on: December 24, 2017, 03:13:22 AM »
Try rotating your degrees of freedom more into the vertical domain.
At no point should the center of gravity drop below the axis.


If the arm is 90-degrees facing the right side:
Draw a vertical line where the arm is.


Now raise the arm until the center of mass
Crosses that line near the 45-deg or so
The weight will fall left.
Balancing the arm to either side of this line
Should be the operation of the device.
The ball falls twice.
Left then right


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Re: Why this seesaw is working against physics laws
« Reply #73 on: December 28, 2017, 03:10:17 PM »
Dear Sir,
As per sketch there will be need of tilting the device just few degree more so that the ball could fall down.
There will be a lock mechanism which will work to prevent the counterweight up to that time when ball hits the upper part of tube .
The lock mechanism will work in this way that it will be unlocked due to impact of counterweight.

 

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