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Author Topic: Clarence replication of Barbosa and Leal self powered generator  (Read 3658 times)

Offline casiano

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Hi guys.It seems that Clarence, member of Energetic Forum succeded in replication of the Barbosa and Leal device.He claim overunity so im tempted to build the device,but since im not a member of Energetic Forum i wanted to ask what the Overunity Forum think about this.
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How come Clarence doesn't post here anymore?

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Offline ramset

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Re: Clarence replication of Barbosa and Leal self powered generator
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2017, 05:55:35 PM »
I am sure most here who follow the forums are aware of Clarence recent results

Clarence is a man of integrity and I am certain he will Dot all the I's and cross all the T's to make sure his power is not coming from his local electric company.

the original issue has always been that in SWER systems it is possible to bypass a meter and use just one wire to power loads.
but this is still power supplied by the power company.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-wire_earth_return


here is the link to Clarence
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20091-barbosa-leal-devices-info-replication-details-54.html

what would be interesting is doing this off a battery array ?
could it still be "theft" from the mains?

TO BE CLEAR I AM NOT CALLING ANYBODY A THIEF, Clarence is a serious experimenter searching for answers to the Barbosa claim
this just needs to be verified ,and now that he has such strong results he should be able to sort it quickly [free or not free energy]

very interesting work regardless.

respectfully
Chet K


Offline casiano

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Re: Clarence replication of Barbosa and Leal self powered generator
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2017, 06:21:47 PM »
How can it be THEFT with a closed circuit, with battery?
I have all the things needed for the replication,the only last thing im missing is a few copper rods and a 10 square meters of my wife flowers garden :(.The only difference is i will use a 48v inverter and battery bank,.

Offline ramset

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Re: Clarence replication of Barbosa and Leal self powered generator
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2017, 06:26:39 PM »
if you have rods into the ground as part of the system??

??

fun to consider the possibilities and experiments ?

respectfully
Chet K

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Re: Clarence replication of Barbosa and Leal self powered generator
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2017, 06:46:00 PM »
No,i have the rods from another experiment.Im planing to built the system,the only problem is my wife's garden.but i'll manage to convince her.I hope thar my 48v inverter will be compatible with the system.

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Re: Clarence replication of Barbosa and Leal self powered generator
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2017, 06:46:00 PM »
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Offline ramset

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Re: Clarence replication of Barbosa and Leal self powered generator
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2017, 07:14:10 PM »
Just for clarity
the ground supplied by your new earth rods or the original house ground will not matter ,you can go out on your property and drive a ground rod almost anywhere and bring a Hot lead from your mains [one wire] and run anything you wish between the hot lead and your new ground.

{you could also get seriously fried playing here}

I am uncertain if your comment implies that your garden ground could be autonomous from the house grounds/mains ?

I apologize if this was not your meaning.

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Re: Clarence replication of Barbosa and Leal self powered generator
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2017, 07:32:40 PM »
I want to make my ground autonomous and the whole system independent from the grid,using my photovoltaic panels,battery bank and inverter.I dont want any trouble with the authorities.thanks for your replies,.

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Re: Clarence replication of Barbosa and Leal self powered generator
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2017, 07:32:40 PM »
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Offline Void

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Re: Clarence replication of Barbosa and Leal self powered generator
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2017, 08:34:31 PM »
Unfortunately, that I have seen, Clarence has never showed anything that remotely indicated OU.
Clarence is not at all knowledgeable in electrical or electronics concepts, and he refused to take
any guidance from people who do have such knowledge on how to conduct some meaningful tests,
and he was frequently very disrespectful to people who offered to give him some help in that area. ;)
If you want to spend money and time on a setup that is probably not OU, that is your choice however. :)



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Re: Clarence replication of Barbosa and Leal self powered generator
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2017, 09:18:20 PM »
Fortunately i have all the materials i need for the replication,the only thing ito would waste is the time needed to do this.I saw that Clarence have more than 2 years building and experimented with the device.I think time is more important than money,that is why i asked what the forum members think about his claim.

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Re: Clarence replication of Barbosa and Leal self powered generator
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2017, 11:12:52 PM »
Clarence has made several posts that indicate that he is merely bypassing the electric meter and part of the distribution panel of his home. He talks about popping breakers if the system isn't wired properly, and says outright

 
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I spent time doing the math and it seems that for the said 25 amp load
 total 75% comes through the mains Line supply - the OTHER 25% comes THROUGH THE GROUND RETURN.

You will see a lot of people spending a lot of money and effort to "replicate" Clarence's system, only to find that it simply bypasses the electric meter and all the power used actually still comes from the electric grid.

But whatever. It's your money and time, and if you spent it doing something productive instead, or with your family... who knows what might happen.

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Online AlienGrey

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Re: Clarence replication of Barbosa and Leal self powered generator
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2017, 09:11:27 PM »
Clarence has made several posts that indicate that he is merely bypassing the electric meter and part of the distribution panel of his home. He talks about popping breakers if the system isn't wired properly, and says outright

 
You will see a lot of people spending a lot of money and effort to "replicate" Clarence's system, only to find that it simply bypasses the electric meter and all the power used actually still comes from the electric grid.

But whatever. It's your money and time, and if you spent it doing something productive instead, or with your family... who knows what might happen.
yes your right, however, our friend Mr Nelson Racha uses a very similar circuit on his youtube site and calls it an electron trap where he appears to show a gain in energy, have you looked on his youtube site ?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paJeF8TxjB0

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Re: Clarence replication of Barbosa and Leal self powered generator
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2017, 09:28:50 PM »
AlienGrey, thanks for sharing that link. I watched this video https://youtu.be/G-ob1GY6dXs which looks like that circuit in operation. I thought it was interesting but didn't prove anything because he doesn't check the current and voltage across the bulb.

Then I watched this one https://youtu.be/KAtRv6PneNs and now I'm wondering what's going on!? When the vacuum is turned on, wattmeter goes to zero... it can't be from noise because the meter clearly shows 1kw when it's plugged in directly. We see the strip shows 231v and the vacuum is probably operating at 1kw, judging by the sound, so why no watts on the meter?

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Re: Clarence replication of Barbosa and Leal self powered generator
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2017, 02:03:04 AM »
Whats going on is that for any credible readings oscilloscopes need to be used, and used properly. Instead of that wattmeter, an oscilloscope showing the voltage vs current and their phase needed to be used. To measure current a suitable resistor of low resistance needs to be in series with the circuit and the oscilloscope powered through an isolating transformer. Not so hard, yet people keep using these wattmeters that lie when they are made to power circuits that they are not designed for. If you get spiky currents, even an oscilloscope can become useless in the hands of inexperienced tinkerers.
Look for the obvious first.

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Re: Clarence replication of Barbosa and Leal self powered generator
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2017, 07:06:22 AM »
AlienGrey, thanks for sharing that link. I watched this video https://youtu.be/G-ob1GY6dXs which looks like that circuit in operation. I thought it was interesting but didn't prove anything because he doesn't check the current and voltage across the bulb.

Then I watched this one https://youtu.be/KAtRv6PneNs and now I'm wondering what's going on!? When the vacuum is turned on, wattmeter goes to zero... it can't be from noise because the meter clearly shows 1kw when it's plugged in directly. We see the strip shows 231v and the vacuum is probably operating at 1kw, judging by the sound, so why no watts on the meter?

Because the meter is in "overload" mode and shows 0 watts when it is in that mode. Watch carefully at 3:54, and again at 6:59, and again at 8:10 and you will see the "overload" message on the meter as it displays "0 Watts". At 8:10 the vacuum cleaner is plugged directly into the meter, not through the "white box", the meter indicates "overload" and reads 0, and if Nelson had just pushed that button one more time before the end of the video you'd see another "0 Watt" reading, even when the white box is not used. That would have been a rather obvious "tell"-- and it is obvious that Nelson knows this. This video has "comments disabled". Why is that? Is Nelson afraid someone will notice his deception and point it out?

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Re: Clarence replication of Barbosa and Leal self powered generator
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2017, 09:43:23 AM »
Damaged meter ? But why it shows overload when also displaying 33W real power ?

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Re: Clarence replication of Barbosa and Leal self powered generator
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