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Author Topic: Stan Meyer Environmental Meeting "Full" version  (Read 1053 times)

Offline grindle

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Stan Meyer Environmental Meeting "Full" version
« on: June 28, 2017, 08:20:25 AM »
irondmax posted a longer version of the shorter video that was seen at the 3rd international Stan
Meyer conference in Bremen ohio  this new version is about 38 minutes long
I found it on irondmax youtube channel

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Offline Lakes

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Re: Stan Meyer Environmental Meeting "Full" version
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2017, 09:55:17 AM »
A link to the video for anyone interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaO4RH5hmzg


Offline h20power

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Re: Stan Meyer Environmental Meeting "Full" version
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2017, 01:28:46 AM »
From my perspective on the current state of affairs concerning Meyer's technology is, it's stalled out. Max has health problems and before that he was shown to be clearly pushing amps and not using voltage to break the bonds of the water molecules. Russ has more or less thrown in the towel but still holds on to some lose threads of the towel but for the most part he is out. Ronnie Walker has moved on with his life and is now enjoying life now that he is away from this technology. I'm working on it but not really talking about just what it is I am doing concerning my work but I am still hard at it. And for the most part all the rest working on this technology are just going around in circles and starting to resort to lying to try and keep the flames hot on this technology if front of their peers.


This technology requires those whom choose to work on it to buy the correct measuring tools and equipment. Anyone that refuses to do so is just lying to themselves and anyone they then choose to talk to. Things have to be built with a degree of precision in that we must build something very close to what Don Gable showed us about this technology so that the information given in the patents are relevant.

Now you can change the sizes from what is shown but know that when you do so the information in the patents is no longer going to match up. Meyer states that for this resonant cavity the working voltages are between 1000-2000 volts of potential difference with this space gap between the electrodes make any changes to this and that stated working conditions will no longer be the case. As it stands right now there are only a handful of people that have built a cell to these measurements so it would then stand to reason that only a handful of people are actually serious about solving this technology. Anyone else that says they are working on this technology but hasn't built a cell to these measurements are really just playing around as they aren't being serious and their actions of not building a cell the proper way will then show that.


When you see one of us demonstrating one of these cells always ask to see the temperature measurements over time and voltage readings across the cell or the entire exciter array taken by a differential probe using an oscilloscope. If they give gas output numbers ask for the power input numbers so that you can get their MMW numbers if they don't provide you with them up front. Now that you know the working voltages stated by Meyer himself in the patents you can tell right away if they have it working correctly or not. If the cell gets hot while it is running then they are pushing amps through the water bath but this will be made evident by the lack of voltage being applied to the resonant cavity. Max Miller failed each and everyone of these requirements and if and when he does come back it will be your job to make sure he is not telling lies as he did in the past to people. If you the people don't hold people like Max, Russ, Ronnie, myself, and anyone else working on this technology accountable then it will all be for not. None of us should mind showing any of these things I talked about when prompted to do so.


Always remember if the person talking about Meyer's technology doesn't have a cell or injector built to Meyer's specifications, a differential probe, and a oscilloscope then what they are saying needs to be taken with a lot of salt. This technology is on the complex side and anyone trying to make it appear to be as simple as the electrolysis method is just wasting your time. This technology works by ionizing the atoms that make up the water molecules which is very different from how electrolysis works.

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Re: Stan Meyer Environmental Meeting "Full" version
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2017, 03:08:27 PM »
really?
Just to ionize the molecules?
No amps? Just Voltage?
Or does Meyer uses amps as well?


Offline h20power

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Re: Stan Meyer Environmental Meeting "Full" version
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2017, 06:20:36 PM »
really?
Just to ionize the molecules?
No amps? Just Voltage?
Or does Meyer uses amps as well?


I'm shocked that you of all people would have the nerve to ask me a question after all the wrongs you have done to me. On your site I proved many people to be outright lying to you and the rest of the members of your forum and for my trouble I get banned from your site. Remember Alex claiming to be getting 50kv to his 11 resonant cavity exciter array? It cost me just $50 bucks and a bit of helping out his crowdfund to be successful to do it but in the end I did prove him out to be lying to the entire group for if my memory serves me right he was actually getting 2.4kv to his cell which is approximately 782 volts shy per resonant cavity of Meyer's stated working conditions for this technology. What about the time some bigots took after me due to the color of my skin do you remember the results of that? No? Well, allow me to refresh your memory I was suspended for their bigoted attacks against me while almost nothing happened to them. How about that Tech guy who kept telling all of you that I was on the wrong track having done none of the work other than in his head towards actual hands on experimenting? He was allowed to stay while I was banned for sharing real world experiments that were so far outside of the reach of any other member of the group it was deemed I was pulling a fast one on the group somehow by that Tech guy whom I remind you doesn't have the proper equipment to be able to take a look at this technology and the entire group believed him resulting in yet again me being tossed out while the lair was retained.


I sometimes take a read on your site to see what's going on and can tell you they are just going around in circles and I believe they will always be going around in circles as no one wishes to build things properly and get the proper measuring equipment to be able to take a look at this technology scientifically. In this time that I have been away from your site I have evolved to a more complete understanding of Open Source in that it only works for things that do not need to be built in the real world like computer programs and other digital media. Those technologies that require materials to be built are subject to the rules of the markets thus mass production is the only way for them to move forwards. I understand these things now and have moved and/or switched my approach towards bringing this technology to the market place. I no longer function as a teacher for this technology but as a company that is trying to actually bring this technology out to the masses so that they can take control of their own energy needs with the companies products. So if you want an answer to your questions you are now being tasked to answer your own questions as I no longer fulfill that role for this movement.


It's taken me a while to understand this technology and even longer to learn how to go about building it correctly. Unlike Alex I am only 60 volts shy from Meyer's stated minimum working conditions for this technology per resonant cavity and with the next VIC transformer I should surpass his stated minimum voltage requirements by about 500 volts per resonant cavity if my calculations are correct. Yep you heard me right I will be the first one to reach and surpass Meyer's stated minimum working voltages for this technology once the new transformer is built and I ask how does that make you feel knowing that I was on your site willing to help others reach the same voltages I was getting to their exciter arrays? For me it was a time of ignorance as I didn't understand the rules of the game, but for the members of that site they simply chose not to step up to the plate and build a proper exciter array for themselves or to buy one at a fare price from me. Nope, they function more or less like a bucket of crabs that will pull anyone trying to get out of the bucket back down. You inadvertently filled your site with pretenders and lairs by giving people like me whom were actually performing real world experiments with the proper measuring equipment the boot and again I ask, "How does that make you feel?" Now my ignorance of Open Source is gone as I do understand the rules of the game now.




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Re: Stan Meyer Environmental Meeting "Full" version
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2017, 06:20:36 PM »
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Offline pomodoro

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Re: Stan Meyer Environmental Meeting "Full" version
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2017, 02:12:02 AM »
Retribution time ....
« Last Edit: July 07, 2017, 05:34:07 AM by pomodoro »

Offline h20power

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Re: Stan Meyer Environmental Meeting "Full" version
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2017, 07:35:57 PM »
In watching that video there is something that can be learned but sadly one must have a really good understanding of the technology to learn it. Those site owner bullies are far and wide with this movement as they live in a world that is based outside of reality. I look at them from time to time just to see what new scheme they will come up with next and I can personally tell you they are so far away from how this technology actually works. It's like they have no destination as they just left the city without knowing where it was they were going and we all should know by now that you can't plot a course without a destination. What this does is even if they make it where they need to be they will turn around and leave as they don't know where they are going thus have no idea they had arrived at their destination.

Now it wasn't my intent to give the owner of Ionizationx a hefty slap but just to let him know that bridge was burnt by him and his site members and this goes for any site that has banned me which includes Max and Russ. Now Ronnie and I just kinda went our own ways but I have the feeling my skin color is a problem or perhaps the way I approach problem solving unknowns. In any event I am just happy he is enjoying life now as his spirits really got pulled down by highly demanding people whom don't like to do their own work and wanted him to give them a free ride off of his coat tail.
With me I too would not allow people to ride on my coat tail and would only work with those whom showed me they were actually working on the technology with all the same things that I was using as if not then we would be comparing apples to oranges and that doesn't work out to well when it comes to comparing each others work. That doesn't leave me with many people to actually work with and those that do have the right stuff have broken my trust so I will not work with them. What this has done was to force me to go it alone so if I would ask a question I would also have to be the one that answered that question.

As I forged ahead I left everyone in these forums behind and my work shows it for as of right now there is no one that I know of that has duplicated the voltages I showed putting to the exciter array at Boulder, Colorado back in 2013 and I have more than doubled that voltage since then and should be tripling it in the near future. That video shows that Meyer's technology works but not a very good showing as it's resolution is too low and Max's logo is in the way. Who knows what the future holds for this technology but from the looks of it the time is now for this technology to come out as other technologies are starting to emerge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b3ttqYDwF0

In that video it shows that things are changing now to push the use of fossil fuels to a minimum. It's time for this technology to enter into the marketplace and make it's mark.
« Last Edit: July 11, 2017, 10:42:59 PM by h20power »

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