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Author Topic: Ion Valve technology  (Read 680 times)

Offline antimony

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Ion Valve technology
« on: June 15, 2017, 06:21:10 PM »
Hi, have re-read a lot of stuff about Moray and all that these last two weeks.

I have also read about different types of valves for radiant energy, from Nuenergy, and others.

But i cant seem to make sense of if there has been any progress with in this subject.

Do anyone know more about if there have been replications of these valves, or new progress that could point to where others can take the next step in the continuation of progress?

I Hope you can understand my questions.

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Ion Valve technology
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Re: Ion Valve technology
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2017, 06:32:20 PM »
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Re: Ion Valve technology
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2017, 01:31:40 PM »
I also have been reading Moray lately. Maybe someone can correct me, but isn't it possible that Moray's "detector" tube acted like a typical rectifier?

In the reproduced schematic from his patent image, it looks to me that he used a rectifier to charge caps on the left side, which powered an oscillator on the right side.

I don't know much about tubes, but I know that tubes containing gasses like neon have a minimum voltage before they strike. Maybe it's possible that his two tubes actually produced the oscillations for the transformer- capacitor series. As seen in this video, https://youtu.be/kbfYGrMl62w a resistor, capacitor and tube are all that's required for an oscillator, and that's what he's got in the middle of the circuit. Any thoughts?

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Re: Ion Valve technology
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2017, 10:43:13 PM »
I have been thinking that one should read up on Grays tube like said earlier in the thread, but how similar can they be?

Have anyone tried to use a Grey tube replication as a Moray valve?

And one other thing. What is up with the Ag/Pb in that circuit?
Are they used as some sort of capacitor, with a dielectric in between? If not, maybe there is becouse you got to have one conductor that is really good, and one other that not so good that forms some sort of i dont know what. :)



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Re: Ion Valve technology
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2017, 08:37:12 AM »
I had a look at it a long time ago and got to the theory that these tubes could be there to initiate an asymmetric oscillator.

If you look at how they are made (Moray patent) it seems like these are actually capacitors, where the capacity of them is depending on the sign of the voltage. Meaning in one direction they have a high capacity, in the other direction they have a low capacity. And such a device in a normal oscillating circuit would result in an asymmetric oscillator, where the voltage spike for one polarity would be high and for the other polarity low.
They attain this by something that creates ions, when the polarity is in one direction, so that these ions can spread over the gap between plates and therefore increase the capacity, whereas in the other direction, there is no ionization and therefore charges cannot spread over the gap and remain on plates further away from each other, resulting in a lower capacity.
So there would be kinda like an ion valve in these tubes to change capacity depending on the voltage polarity.
Unfortunately this behavior cannot be as easily replicated with modern semiconductor equipment. It gets especially problematic if you wanna switch high voltages, like Moray.
(so it's not easy to test such a theory)

IMHO it is also interesting that for startup he used a horse-shoe magnet with a coil around it. This is IMHO interesting, for this is also a device for an asymmetric oscillator. Although it would yield a different type of asymmetry. Namely an asymmetry depending on the sign of the current, not the voltage.

IMHO this other asymmetric resonator part could have been needed, because the asymmetric capacitors only start to work if there's enough voltage/energy on them, to initiate the ionization.
And as soon as this voltage/energy level has been achieved for the capacitor tubes to work, you can take it out of the resonator circuit (with the switch as seen in the pic).

I always thought the Ag/Pb is just there for kinda like a battery effect, to have a slight (priming) offset voltage on the antenna, for whatever reason.

But this was just a theory I once came up. No idea if it has any merit.

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Re: Ion Valve technology
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2017, 08:37:12 AM »
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