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Offline MagnaProp

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Re: Next OU Device to investigate "Magmov" 3kW Magnet Generator
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2017, 07:58:29 AM »
Sorry to say the Indiegogo project says closed. On the plus side, the one from TKLabs looks promising. Its vertical flag hints at possible anti-gravity effects.

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Re: Next OU Device to investigate "Magmov" 3kW Magnet Generator
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2017, 07:55:33 PM »
They say they are ready to deliver but it takes 20 or more days to deliver.   Sounds contradictory and wouldn't touch their payment method with a 10 foot pole.   

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Re: "Magmov" 3kW Magnet Generator
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2017, 12:53:16 AM »
I sent $3000 to Daniel for a generator and got nothing.  Before I sent my money he would Skype with me and show me his shop and even the insides of a generator.  But after I sent my money nothing but silence.  Vaporware!  Don't send him your money!

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Re: Next OU Device to investigate "Magmov" 3kW Magnet Generator
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2017, 08:22:31 PM »
The following will probably be pretty obvious to people who have some degree of experience with the free energy scene already,
but anyway here are some words of caution for newcomers on these kinds of 'order over the internet free energy generators'
and similar devices:

1) If they are selling these 'free energy generators' over the internet, sight unseen, chances are extremely high right off the bat it is a scam even without any details about the company being known. Assume it is most probably a scam unless a very thorough investigation seems to indicate otherwise. Even then be extremely cautious before agreeing to pay any money, and make sure you have a viable option for getting your money back if the deal falls through.

2) A very big warning sign for these internet free energy generator sellers is the selling of indivudual units from a website. A true free energy generator would be a major earth shaking scientific breakthrough, and if it is legitimate the inventor should be able to sell their technology to a government or technology corporation etc. for millions of dollars. Why would they charge small potatoes and sell individual units one at a time to people over the internet, where the customers could then potentially reverse engineer the generator and then people could start making their own once the 'secret' is out, etc.?

3) Make sure the company at the very least has a verifiable address and contact info. If they are located in less developed countries, then understand that if you send them money you may never hear back from them again, and there may be nothing much you can do about it. 

4) Knowing the above, if you are still hell bent on taking a major risk and odering from an online 'free energy generator' seller due to some very convincing looking videos or sales pitches or whatever, if they accept PayPal then you may have some chance of recovering your payment within a certain time span if you don't receive what you paid for. Check with PayPal first before sending any money to make sure you understand first what the exact conditions are for getting your money back. If the seller is asking for a direct electronic bank transfer for payment or are asking for payment by Western Union or similar, then you will likely have no options available to get your money back if you are scammed. These types of direct payment methods are typically used by scammers. Another option to look at is to use an escrow payment service such as escrow.com, but check out the escrow service thoroughly first to make sure they are legit and have a good reputation. I mentioned escrow.com as an example, but I don't know what kind of reputation they have or how long they have been around. An escrow service charges a fee for using their service. If the seller will not accept PayPal or the use of an internet escrow service, and instead will only take direct bank transfer payments or Western Union, then that is a very big warning sign.

5) If you order a 'free energy generator' of any kind from another country, understand that even if the generator is legit it could get stopped at the border if it is inspected and doesn't have proper safety/emissions certification for your region, such as having UL certification or equivalent. Chances are that any 'free energy generators' sold from internet sites like this will not have any sort of proper safety/emissions testing certification, even if they claim it has been certified in some way. A seller should have had their units tested by one or more recognized accredited testing labs and should have no problems telling you which specific testing labs tested their units, and should be able to give you certification numbers or similar and contact info so you can contact the testing labs directly to confirm whether the equipment was really tested by them. Also, just because an electric/electronic device of some type was tested and certified by an accredited safety/emissions testing lab, this is not certification that the device works as claimed. It is just certification that it passes safety and emissions testing requirements as tested for by a given lab. Testing by a lab to confirm that a device is really over unity is another matter altogether.

I have listed just some of the things a person probably wants to watch out for, but there are probably various other warning signs and other things to watch out for as well. Basically odering something like this over the internet is very high risk at the best of times. If you are very lucky you may possibly eventually receive a 'unit' of some sort, and when you try it out it may not work. The seller may then make various excuses of why it doesn't work, such as you must live in an area where the magnetic field or aether is too weak, or the muons are blocked in your area, or whatever, and then you may be stuck with a piece of junk and still have no way to get your money back. Even under the best of conditions chances are very slim to none of getting an actual working free energy device by ordering over the internet from some small unknown seller or company. To date, I don't know of one single confirmed legitimate free energy generator or similar that has ever been available for sale.

« Last Edit: August 20, 2017, 11:22:01 PM by Void »

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Re: Next OU Device to investigate "Magmov" 3kW Magnet Generator
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2017, 11:18:46 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heEV3U8ZgwA

presentation but no working device

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Re: Next OU Device to investigate "Magmov" 3kW Magnet Generator
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2017, 11:18:46 PM »
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Offline isawit

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Re: Next OU Device to investigate "Magmov" 3kW Magnet Generator
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2017, 01:15:02 AM »
as long as energy conservation law stands, there is no free energy.

is any free energy generator ever existing? what is the mechanism?

we must eliminate all the false claims, drain the scientific swamp.

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Re: Next OU Device to investigate "Magmov" 3kW Magnet Generator
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2017, 01:35:26 AM »
as long as energy conservation law stands, there is no free energy.
is any free energy generator ever existing? what is the mechanism?
we must eliminate all the false claims, drain the scientific swamp.

I don't know if there is anything to these 'magmov' magnetic devices, but the guy's
business practices so far are not looking very promising at all. However magmov aside,
a 'free energy' device would not necessarily have to violate principles of energy conservation.
A free energy device could conceivably just 'pull in' and make use of extra energy from some external
source in a similar way that a heat pump has a COP > 1.  Some physicists theorize that devices of some
sort may one day be able to tap into and make use of 'zero point' energy for example.

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Re: Next OU Device to investigate "Magmov" 3kW Magnet Generator
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2017, 01:35:26 AM »
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Offline isawit

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Re: Next OU Device to investigate "Magmov" 3kW Magnet Generator
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2017, 01:46:49 AM »
I don't know if there is anything to these 'magmov' magnetic devices, but the guy's
business practices so far are not looking very promising at all. However magmov aside,
a 'free energy' device would not necessarily have to violate principles of energy conservation.
A free energy device could conceivably just 'pull in' and make use of extra energy from some external
source in a similar way that a heat pump has a COP > 1.  Some physicists theorize that devices of some
sort may one day be able to tap into and make use of 'zero point' energy for example.

Any of them can tell you what is zero point energy? Do you know what is it?

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Re: Next OU Device to investigate "Magmov" 3kW Magnet Generator
« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2017, 02:44:00 AM »
Any of them can tell you what is zero point energy? Do you know what is it?


For certain physicists who work in the area of quantum physics can explain what the term means.
For example:
"Quantum mechanics predicts the existence of what are usually called ''zero-point'' energies for the strong, the weak and the electromagnetic interactions, where ''zero-point'' refers to the energy of the system at temperature T=0, or the lowest quantized energy level of a quantum mechanical system."
http://www.calphysics.org/zpe.html

I don't claim to understand it, but from what I have gathered the significance seems to be
that it was thought that at absolute zero there should be no (or very little) remaining energy
in a system, but quantum mechanics predicts that there will actually still be a level of energy
remaining at absolute zero. Some physicists have said that it seems at least possible to them
that there may be a way to tap into this form of energy. Whether that ever may be proven to be
true remains to be seen.  My description is probably not so great, but I think that is roughly the idea.  :D

Anyway, that is off the topic of this thread. Just mentioned it as it may be one possible
source of energy that 'free energy' devices may be able to tap into. As the saying goes, "never say never". ;D
 

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Re: Next OU Device to investigate "Magmov" 3kW Magnet Generator
« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2017, 03:08:15 AM »
quantum anything is BS.

All these fifty years of conscious brooding have brought me no nearer to the answer to the question, 'What are light quanta?'
Nowadays every Tom, D i c k and Harry thinks he knows it, but he is mistaken. -Albert Einstein 1953

He was the godfather of QM.

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Offline forest

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Re: Next OU Device to investigate "Magmov" 3kW Magnet Generator
« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2017, 08:48:54 AM »
OU device can work like heat pump just pumping magnetic field , converting into HF HV electric current for example. This method was described by Tesla in his article in 1900.
Second device can work based on Faraday laws of induction,simply -  and the third one also by the same law but in positive loop-back way, starting from small input power and accumulating it over slight period of time to rise output exponentially. This third method is the most powerful one and is currently used all over the world in every dynamo and ac generators. Fossil fuels are used to cope with mechanical and magnetic frictions , the last one being directly proportionate to the load. Mechanical energy from burning fossil fuels are not converted into electric output of generator - the output goes directly from magnetic fields , dipoles being broken and then re-established along with the output dipole (fields attract and adds together to rise magnetic field intensity).

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Re: Next OU Device to investigate "Magmov" 3kW Magnet Generator
« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2017, 10:45:02 AM »
I don't know if there is anything to these 'magmov' magnetic devices, but the guy's
business practices so far are not looking very promising at all. However magmov aside,
a 'free energy' device would not necessarily have to violate principles of energy conservation.
A free energy device could conceivably just 'pull in' and make use of extra energy from some external
source in a similar way that a heat pump has a COP > 1.  Some physicists theorize that devices of some
sort may one day be able to tap into and make use of 'zero point' energy for example.

Ive talked to some smart and wealthy people on the subject of how to go about selling devices if you Have the real thing.. Their ideas were based on knowing that it probably would be trouble.

If its real and you have a big investor, then you quietly build a large quantity of them to prep for the onslaught of buyers, and once its out there in mass numbers, knowledge of the existence would be more wide spread fairly quick and proof to be seen by many.  Another guy said to also build them quietly in large numbers and present many of them say across the country on the same day, so that it would really be harder to kill mass knowledge of it than it would be for say a single isolated presentation somewhere with some tv station, etc.

I think that with all the tech following us, listening to us and watching us, and it is getting worse at faster and faster rates, then some one world gov, etc, that we just may never see FE mainstream ever. I dont think it will never be allowed.

Like the SAWS document on the US Pat office website saying you cant pat free energy, nor anything over 100%efficient and nothing that claims to deal with tachyons. No perpetual motion. They offer a dead end.

There are 2 ways to look at it

1  You cant do it because they are saying its just all nonsense and dont waste their time with it.
2  You cant do it because they dont want you to do it.

Its like for reason 1 they are saying there is nothing more to see, move along
And for reason 2 they are saying move along there is nothing more to see, then gag order or worse.

For 1 they are basically saying a MH quote that it cant be done and there is nothing we can do that goes beyond what we already know.Thats basically what he and they are saying, if thats what they are saying. Like there is never going to be any more discovery's beyond what we know now.

And reason 2 is pretty much self explanatory.

Either way owning an idea lawfully will never happen. They may even say, if you have the real thing, that they own that already whether they do or not, then gag order, etc.

Think of the electric company corporations like Monsanto. They will not let it happen, let alone gov. Maybe there is some country that has a good leader would allow it there. But then all the others that dont want it out there would pressure them.

Bah, it all sucks. it would be a sure miracle if they all just said, screw it. Let FE come to life as we have bigger problems that need attn and FE would help in working to solve those issues, largely by lowering the costs of just about everything. Just imagine the savings world wide in the multitude of ways it would do so. Everyone that is poor would have heat or A/C. Power a fridge to keep food and naturally everyone would have light at night.  If you live in a big city and look out across from a tall building, the numbers of street lights at 400w each is an unbelievable amount of power just for those. Eliminating gas in vehicles would be had by being able to produce electric cars cheaper through less energy costs across the board of production. Hurricanes like the one we just had in FL wouldn't affect the electricity availability basically across the state as it did. Hospitals would always have power. There wouldnt have been 10 old folks dead at the old folks home where they died from the heat for the most part. The list of advantages and savings is fairly infinite

But how would that affect the economies world wide in a negative way? It seems like backward logic to think such. It would be some form of greed to perpetuate that idea.

Mags

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Re: Next OU Device to investigate "Magmov" 3kW Magnet Generator
« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2017, 11:22:05 AM »
OU device can work like heat pump just pumping magnetic field , converting into HF HV electric current for example. This method was described by Tesla in his article in 1900.
Second device can work based on Faraday laws of induction,simply -  and the third one also by the same law but in positive loop-back way, starting from small input power and accumulating it over slight period of time to rise output exponentially. This third method is the most powerful one and is currently used all over the world in every dynamo and ac generators. Fossil fuels are used to cope with mechanical and magnetic frictions , the last one being directly proportionate to the load. Mechanical energy from burning fossil fuels are not converted into electric output of generator - the output goes directly from magnetic fields , dipoles being broken and then re-established along with the output dipole (fields attract and adds together to rise magnetic field intensity).

faraday laws are bs. he knows not the true mechanism of electromagnetism or induction. tesla invented ac generator, not big deal. he knows not what is light. there is no free energy, zero point energy, all BS.

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Re: Next OU Device to investigate "Magmov" 3kW Magnet Generator
« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2017, 01:48:15 PM »
maxwell em wave theory is BS

there is no transverse wave in vacuum space. because there is no moving electric field or magnetic field in vacuum space. because there is no field carrier in vacuum space.

all waves are matter waves. electric force moves in matters/mediums causing waves.

there is no light/em wave/energy in vacuum space.

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Re: Next OU Device to investigate "Magmov" 3kW Magnet Generator
« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2017, 05:45:19 PM »
magnetic and electric fields are everywhere, check electric universe theory

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