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Offline telecom

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Re: Ion power group.
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2017, 06:30:53 PM »

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Re: Ion power group.
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2017, 03:04:58 PM »
As a simplest ready available solution, to use thoriated rods
like there
http://www.twi-global.com/technical-knowledge/faqs/health-and-safety-faqs/faq-the-use-of-thoriated-tungsten-electrodes/

Interesting idea there. I will try to get my hands on some. :)

You mean for using as an antenna right?

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Re: Ion power group.
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2017, 06:49:07 PM »
No in your antenna you need to make an array of sharp thin spikes or pins from this material.

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« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2017, 07:10:45 PM »
No in your antenna you need to make an array of sharp thin spikes or pins from this material.

What did you have in mind? Thanks for taking your time

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« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2017, 07:26:21 PM »
something like that

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Re: Ion power group.
« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2017, 07:36:21 PM »
There was a book by Bruce Perreault, at the end there was a patent by Poulson which describes the above method of
getting power from ions.
This is why I'm so surprised that another patent was granted recently to someone else.
Where is the novelty?

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« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2017, 01:20:53 PM »
Yep, truly ridiculous how a patent was granted, aside from using graphene, nothing else is new.   But, hey, they have something that works, unlike the plethora of  granted OU patents that simply dont work.

Did you see that cool  racing car shown in some of their  patents  sure reeks of Nikola Tesla's  electric car that was powered only by atmospheric electricity doesnt it?   ;)

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« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2017, 01:22:40 PM »
There was a book by Bruce Perreault, at the end there was a patent by Poulson which describes the above method of
getting power from ions.
This is why I'm so surprised that another patent was granted recently to someone else.
Where is the novelty?

Yeah, i was thinking Plauson too. You May have something there, but the points should be smaller and sharper then the rods are.

I think i read that Plauson made his small needles from Zinc amalgam thought some electrolysis process. Are you thinking the about doing the same with the Thoriated coat ing?

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« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2017, 08:13:41 PM »
Yes something like that, you are correct about the needles.
You will probably need to machine the rods in a lathe.
I think the idea is to create a multitude of the paths for the ions to reach the antenna.
In his patent he applied radium towards the tips of the needles.

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« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2017, 01:49:07 PM »
Yes something like that, you are correct about the needles.
You will probably need to machine the rods in a lathe.
I think the idea is to create a multitude of the paths for the ions to reach the antenna.
In his patent he applied radium towards the tips of the needles.

I sounds very interesting.  I am going to pick some rods up sometime when i have the money for it and check if there is something there.


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Re: Ion power group.
« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2017, 10:10:36 AM »
Invest your money in a kite, and use your imagination to make a collector. Look at their vid
https://youtu.be/SuHBJWdgz9Y

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« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2017, 01:30:53 PM »
Invest your money in a kite, and use your imagination to make a collector. Look at their vid
https://youtu.be/SuHBJWdgz9Y

Yeah, I thought i would. My daughter has a small Minnie Mouse kite that we have tried out but i am not sure that it will lift that much weight.

I havent tried it yet, but it is probably so that i will need a larger kite. :)

Would balloons with HHO gas do? I thought of this yesterday, but I dont know. 

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« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2017, 07:07:59 AM »
Minnie is getting tougher these days, so don't underestimate that cute mouse!

The voltage up there is very high but the current is  piss weak. That's where their patented collector comes into play.  As I mentioned, I cant give away any secrets on how to get massive currents, but here are some no BS tips that my colleagues allow me to give you.

When you start out, use a small capacitor , say 0.01uF rated at 8Kv or more.  You then attach  some sort of quality spark gap between the cap terminals as a visual aid, perhaps a 2-5kV one.  One end of the cap is grounded, the other goes to a fine copper wire slightly wrapped around the cotton string that goes up to Minnie.  The copper wire goes all the way up to Minnie and is connected to your ion collector.  Your hands must be well isolated with rubber gloves etc because any leaks through your body will not allow the cap to charge.

Dont touch the copper wire and don't touch the cotton string either. Use a good plastic reel that insulates your hand from the string . If all goes well you will see sparks. Dont use diodes as yet and don't try to measure the voltage with your multimeter. Go as high as possible with Minnie.

Work hard in the workshop on the detector ,to get charge on the cap, dont use diodes at this point unless you want to collect radio signals or power line radiation.
Most importantly, .....


Dont be tempted to spray Minnie with graphite, unless you want an Angry Mickey on steroids at your door.

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Re: Ion power group.
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2017, 09:00:14 AM »
Yeah, I thought i would. My daughter has a small Minnie Mouse kite that we have tried out but i am not sure that it will lift that much weight.

I havent tried it yet, but it is probably so that i will need a larger kite. :)

Would balloons with HHO gas do? I thought of this yesterday, but I dont know.


That will work, i remember it has come along a few times in the last century, even a patent ..
I will look


Edit: Found the picture i was thinking of.


I added a picture and a link to some more info:


[size=78%]http://www.nuenergy.org/power-from-the-air-follow-up/[/size]

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« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2017, 10:26:36 AM »
I was thinking that a balloon can stays up for longer periods of time.
Are Helium expensive or could HHO be a good choice as long as it stays clear of any open flame or spark?

I hooked up a gas discharge tube that fire each time the caps have charged up to around 100 volts, and it disccharges into another capacitor.

I am going to try this with some other caps, and loads so see what is possible.
I just want it to fire more foten,  so either i have to have it at higher altitude, or get a gdt that fires at lower voltages. 

I love that picTure btw

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