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Author Topic: A3C & X-MAGNETS AND PMF.  (Read 9398 times)

Offline gyulasun

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Re: A3C & X-MAGNETS AND PMF.
« Reply #60 on: May 15, 2018, 04:15:28 PM »
Taras, it is one thing you have patent applications: it does not prove your generator is super efficient,
claims written in any patent applications are just words you type here on this forum or elsewhere.

I knew that you were again neglecting to give straight answers to relevant questions with respect to
your measurement issues. You write you had no intention to persuade anybody, you just share information.

Yet, your videos, your blogs, your posts at both forums report about your super efficient generator which
has this feature I quote from your blog:

"Mechanical 16.2 watts power input is being converted into 47, 89, 119 and finally 163 watts electrical output,
what means that energy conversion rate is approximately 1000%."  These were your data:

Number of coils              ohms        volts      watts
1                                     112            73           47
2                                     229          143           89
3                                     339          201         119
4                                     448          270         163

One thing is: you calculated the power from the appropiate generator coils DC resistance, R, and the unloaded AC output
voltage your DMM showed, by using this formula for the power:  P=V2/R     No real or meaningful load applied.

And there is another thing in the background I have not mentioned yet.  It is the DC resistance of the generator coils.

Let's say just as an example: the 163 W output power is taken out by a load from your generator coils, ok?
And suppose your DMM shows the 270 V AC output voltage, now just calculate the output current that is involved by
the alleged 163 W output power, ok?  Suppose for simplicity that this current is in phase with the voltage, then the
load current I=163W/270V=0.6 Amper. In case this current would indeed flow in your generator coils, it would cause
an internal voltage drop inside the coils as: V= 0.6 A*448 Ohm = 268.8 Volt. This would mean that if you would really
take out 0.6 Amper from your generator, the earlier (unloaded) output voltage of 270 V would quasi 'disappear'
(or at least significantly get reduced) from the load which was supposed to take out the 163 W from your generator.   

Of course, finally there is the question of input power: how it increases when you really load the generator coils by
the 47,  89,  119 and 163 W output power numbers. 

Gyula

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Re: A3C & X-MAGNETS AND PMF.
« Reply #60 on: May 15, 2018, 04:15:28 PM »

Offline ageofmagnetizm

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Re: A3C & X-MAGNETS AND PMF.
« Reply #61 on: May 16, 2018, 09:02:41 AM »
Gyulasun,


Your MEGAOHMHYPOTESIS has been easyly shattered by connection
of one 10 watt LED directly to generator, which normal light proves that
your megaohm calculations are 3.5 digits wrong.


Now, please take vacation from posting here untill next information will
be released, instead find place where your analitical talents are demanded.

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Re: A3C & X-MAGNETS AND PMF.
« Reply #62 on: May 16, 2018, 02:59:00 PM »
ageofmagnetizm:

My "MegaOhm" calculations are not shattered because you used your DMM in series connection with a load,
you KNOW this! Your generator output remained unloaded in your video demonstrations, you KNOW this.

Now you try to offset this by a 10W LED you connect directly to the generator output: Nobody stated that
your generator is unable to drive a 10W load  directly  when the generator is driven
by a 16-17W motor as the prime mover.  HOW can you compare the two different cases: series and parallel??
Your videos so far showed your DMM (set in AC volt range) was hooked up in series with any load you used.

Of course you need to show correct input power measurements to your prime mover motor (input DC current and
voltage your DMMs are able to measure
),  to make sure the connection of the 10W LED to the generator output
would not increase the basic 16-17W input power of the drill motor.

If input power increases when you hook up the 10W LED (or say a 40W or 60W incandescent light bulb)
to the generator output, then efficiency should be considered with the measured input power, of course.

I understand you do not like my posts here.  A coin has two sides: I do not like being looked to be a fool
when you try to imply in your videos, blogs and posts you have 1000% 'hyper'efficient setup and you try to
"prove" it by incorrect measurements. 

Looking forward to your further activity.

Gyula




Gyulasun,
Your MEGAOHMHYPOTESIS has been easyly shattered by connection
of one 10 watt LED directly to generator, which normal light proves that
your megaohm calculations are 3.5 digits wrong.
Now, please take vacation from posting here untill next information will
be released, instead find place where your analitical talents are demanded.

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Re: A3C & X-MAGNETS AND PMF.
« Reply #63 on: May 16, 2018, 03:11:58 PM »
Gyulasun,
You only have to look somewereelse to post,
Otherwise I'll be forced to report your doings as malisious nonsens.


Whish you newer post here again, chao.

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Re: A3C & X-MAGNETS AND PMF.
« Reply #64 on: May 16, 2018, 03:21:10 PM »
Hi ageofmagnetizm,

Looking forward to your further activity.

Gyula

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Re: A3C & X-MAGNETS AND PMF.
« Reply #64 on: May 16, 2018, 03:21:10 PM »
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Re: A3C & X-MAGNETS AND PMF.
« Reply #65 on: May 16, 2018, 04:14:31 PM »
Hi ageofmagnetizm,

NO ONE is going to take you seriously until you start to make proper measurements.  That is simply the way the world works.  Accusing Gyula of malicious posting will also guarantee that no one will take you seriously.  He has spent a considerable amount of time and effort trying to explain to you why your measurements are not telling you the truth about what you are doing.  Yet you still refuse to listen.  You claimed in an earlier post you wanted to learn, but that is obviously not the case.  I wish you luck but I don't know how to get you to understand you just don't know what you are doing.  That fact is perfectly clear to anyone that has worked in electronics for any length of time.

Respectfully,
Carroll

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Re: A3C & X-MAGNETS AND PMF.
« Reply #66 on: May 17, 2018, 12:47:58 AM »
Thanks Carroll. 

Hopefully he will show correct measurements,  and we may see how his generator performs.

Gyula

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Re: A3C & X-MAGNETS AND PMF.
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Re: A3C & X-MAGNETS AND PMF.
« Reply #67 on: May 17, 2018, 12:12:10 PM »
Hi ageofmagnetizm,

NO ONE is going to take you seriously until you start to make proper measurements.  That is simply the way the world works.  Accusing Gyula of malicious posting will also guarantee that no one will take you seriously.  He has spent a considerable amount of time and effort trying to explain to you why your measurements are not telling you the truth about what you are doing.  Yet you still refuse to listen.  You claimed in an earlier post you wanted to learn, but that is obviously not the case.  I wish you luck but I don't know how to get you to understand you just don't know what you are doing.  That fact is perfectly clear to anyone that has worked in electronics for any length of time.

Respectfully,
Carroll

The problem with OU researchers is that they will take any evidence that points to OU and the just boast they have it. What you should do is try to prove yourself wrong and when you can't find any contradictions anymore, then go to other people so they replicate your device. I myself got very exited about my Kunel replication, but then noticed the OU output is 60Hz. That is very peculiar thing to get from an output coil if the primary is getting 2.7kHz input...

Turns out my bench has 60V AC on it constantly. Chinese signal generator that is turned off had the wires on the bench. BNC connector's outer shell and actual ground has 60V AC between them, so the Chinese machine uses neutral as the ground. Pretty nasty thing to find out, but what can you expect since the power cable for the SG has no ground pin on it.

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Re: A3C & X-MAGNETS AND PMF.
« Reply #68 on: May 18, 2018, 12:13:09 PM »
Belfior,


Past 10 years I moderate here two discussions and reading many others,
Yet I' posted less than 10 comments on discussions moderated by others,
either because I do not take them seriously and spare my time, or my oppinion
wouldnot provide any support or constructive development.


Weird to see people spending ours dayly, made thousands of comments while
having not own business to care about or their business is not being taken seriously
and they spend life in malicious vanities.

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Re: A3C & X-MAGNETS AND PMF.
« Reply #69 on: May 18, 2018, 01:52:21 PM »
Belfior,


Past 10 years I moderate here two discussions and reading many others,
Yet I' posted less than 10 comments on discussions moderated by others,
either because I do not take them seriously and spare my time, or my oppinion
wouldnot provide any support or constructive development.


Weird to see people spending ours dayly, made thousands of comments while
having not own business to care about or their business is not being taken seriously
and they spend life in malicious vanities.

This is a forum. Forums are for discussion. Revelation comes from discussion.

This forum is also filled with crazy people, people who try to stop free energy, inventors trying to find something new and everything in between. This is the user demography on a public forum.

Few lunatics even post their stuff on multiple forums, so they could offend more people.

If I have offended you I am sorry. I can stop posting all together and concentrate on my business

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Re: A3C & X-MAGNETS AND PMF.
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Offline ageofmagnetizm

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Re: A3C & X-MAGNETS AND PMF.
« Reply #70 on: May 18, 2018, 02:17:40 PM »
Belfior,
Actually, I'm OK with you, responding to your post (not ignoring as posts of citfta),
I have not put you on "buddy lists"and do not report you as troll ( what I did to gyula),


Yo was persisting on rectifiers and I think that owners of digital multimeters read manuals and
know that rectifiers are buld inside of modern DMMs.


So far for now.

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Re: A3C & X-MAGNETS AND PMF.
« Reply #71 on: May 18, 2018, 06:30:37 PM »
ageofmagnetism,   gyulasun happens to be one of the most knowledgeable, helpful and respected members of this forum.  If you treat him the way you have people are only going to laugh at you knowing you are simply full of nonsense.   

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Re: A3C & X-MAGNETS AND PMF.
« Reply #72 on: May 18, 2018, 06:43:47 PM »

I could not agree more.
Itsu

Offline ageofmagnetizm

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Re: A3C & X-MAGNETS AND PMF.
« Reply #73 on: May 18, 2018, 08:00:15 PM »
I love english saying:


"We pay no hids for a wigs".


And everybody have to understand that as moderator
I have responsibilities which comes with enforcement gears
which I've deployed for the first time here, and if there are any
parties, groups or bands of interests - then they shoud enjoy own
discussions and let others enjoy theirs.


Is not it natural among gentelmens?


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Re: A3C & X-MAGNETS AND PMF.
« Reply #74 on: May 18, 2018, 08:03:50 PM »
I also agree completely.  Refusing help from gyulasum is like telling a brain surgeon you know more than he does about the brain when you are still in kindergarten.


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