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Author Topic: Deyo's ambient harvesting Pat.The Harmonic Energy Exchange Device (or “HEED”)  (Read 2287 times)

Offline ramset

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Harmonic Energy Exchange Device
US 20080191580 A1

Abstract
This invention converts inertial impulses into electric currents. Specifically, it converts impulses created by the impacts of high-energy particles from the Sun and other cosmic sources into the Earth's Magnetosphere and the varying D, E, F1 and F2 layers of its Ionosphere to controlled electric currents. This invention presents a new method of utilizing energy from the Sun and other sources of high energy articles as a virtually, inexhaustible, alternative-energy source for the world.

https://www.google.com/patents/US20080191580

all comments welcomed and appreciated

respectfully
Chet K


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Offline tinman

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Harmonic Energy Exchange Device
US 20080191580 A1

Abstract
This invention converts inertial impulses into electric currents. Specifically, it converts impulses created by the impacts of high-energy particles from the Sun and other cosmic sources into the Earth's Magnetosphere and the varying D, E, F1 and F2 layers of its Ionosphere to controlled electric currents. This invention presents a new method of utilizing energy from the Sun and other sources of high energy articles as a virtually, inexhaustible, alternative-energy source for the world.

https://www.google.com/patents/US20080191580

all comments welcomed and appreciated

respectfully
Chet K

I wonder if this is Stan Deyo ?=Harold Stanley Deyo

If so,i have spoken to him many time's,when he lived here in Australia,in regard to the VIA(vortex inversion accelerator) drive for marine applications.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaxo1Aq-9mU


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Offline Bob Smith

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Is this a new method for collecting energy?
https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-685957-apparatus-utilization-radiant-energy


Looks mighty similar to Tesla's apparatus for utilizing radiant energy.  Methinks there have been many who have been sidetracked in its construction and effectiveness, despite it's simplicity.
Bob

Offline Bob Smith

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If you look at Deyo's patent, fig 3, you see what I believe is of crucial importance to this setup:


- charging a cap and inductor in series, and
- discharging the cap-inductor in parallel


But what is essential, I believe here, is that the cap is variable. Why the variable capacitor?
I think this is so that the cap's discharge frequency can be tuned to the resonant frequency of the inductor.
In this sense, RESONANCE here is key.
Gotta run. Will say more later.
Bob


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Ramset:
Thanks for posting and bringing to our attention.

Tinman:
May well be the same person per this excerpt from patent.
[0021] Be it known that I, Harold Stanley Deyo, Jr, a citizen of both The United States of America and The Common Wealth of Australia, residing in the community of Pueblo West in Pueblo County, Colorado have invented an Harmonic Energy Exchange Device which converts dynamic pressures in the ambient media around Earth to controlled electric currents.

Bob Smith:
Resonance key factor, excerpt from patent:
[0031] This preferred embodiment uses a parallel, tuned circuit to access a wide range of frequencies usually to be found in the range of 4.5 to 7 MHZ. This range encompasses the major, naturally-occurring, resonant frequencies found in the ionosphere.
[0032] A second embodiment of this invention as shown in FIG. 3 replaces the parallel tuned circuit formed by inductor coil 7 and variable capacitor 11 in FIG. 1 placed in parallel to each other and referenced to ground 8 in FIG. 1. This second embodiment forms a series tuned circuit formed by inductor coil 7 and variable capacitor 11 in FIG. 3 placed in series to each other and referenced to ground 8 of FIG. 3. It differs from the preferred embodiment only in the placement of variable capacitor 11 of FIG. 3 so that it is in series with coil 7 of FIG. 3.
[0033] This embodiment limits the frequency range and, hence, the energy the system will store when compared to the preferred embodiment. It produces higher voltages across the spark gap 9 of FIG. 3 than those produced in the preferred embodiment across the spark gap 9 of FIG. 1.

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Offline Bob Smith

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Reason1st:
Thanks - nice quotes from the patent.
If the capacitor can be tuned to match the frequency with which the coil resonates with incoming "cosmic rays", we effectively have an optimized resonant series L-C circuit, which seems to produce some interesting effects. 

To take this a step further, consider the metal plate and ground as the positive and negative terminals, respectively. 
When we consider the cap's AC output, do we not, in effect, with this arrangement have the makings of a kind of push-pull circuit?


Bob


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That application is never going to become a real patent.  Apart from offering nothing new  in it, its very well known already that the fairweather field - a direct measure of the ionosphere to electric earth field does not show oscillations in the MHz range. Its actually quite stable. Not only that, but the real charge between the ionosphere and the earth is kept there by lightning strikes, and not at all by cosmic or solar radiation. All the radiation does is to keep the ionosphere conductive, without lightning the earth would be at the same potential as the ionosphere due to the slight conductivity of air. So whether or not those MHz he's talking about exist up there has nothing to do with the expansion of the ionosphere to earth distance as it would be very easy to detect and would actually be a rather massive signal.

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Offline Bob Smith

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Pomodoro,
Don't you think this talk about ionosphere is a kind of vague smokescreen for something much simpler? We know that patents usually hide their secrets. Could it be that this setup is actually for gathering ambient electrostatic energy?  We know that the higher up we go with the plate, the greater potential difference between the plate and earth. But what if the secret of the patent is actually in the combination of the variable capacitor in series with the inductor?  The plate  and ground are going to play their positive and negative roles as the LC circuit goes into series resonance, for a parallel discharge.
Bob

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Not only that, but the real charge between the ionosphere and the earth is kept there by lightning strikes, and not at all by cosmic or solar radiation.
snip...
You are putting Effect Before Cause. Next you'll be telling us that the polar Auroras (another electric discharge phenomena) produce the magnetic field that corrals them towards the poles. Or that the Auroras produce the solar wind which pours billions of ionized (charged) particles and high energy photons into the upper atmosphere, after they've managed to slip their way into the earths protective magnetic field.


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You are putting Effect Before Cause. Next you'll be telling us that the polar Auroras (another electric discharge phenomena) produce the magnetic field that corrals them towards the poles. Or that the Auroras produce the solar wind which pours billions of ionized (charged) particles and high energy photons into the upper atmosphere, after they've managed to slip their way into the earths protective magnetic field.
Well if it didn't this would be a dead planet like Pluto. Even Tesla knew the bull shit the aristocracy from Oxford University came out with was a disgrace and an insult to the truth............ 

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Well if it didn't this would be a dead planet like Pluto. Even Tesla knew the bull shit the aristocracy from Oxford University came out with was a disgrace and an insult to the truth............
::)  Seems you're more full of BS than a mushroom farm.

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 Can we assume that the emanations are in the electromagnetic spectrum? The patent claims 4.5 to 7 MHz.

If so that falls into the shortwave band and the Ham Radio bands. Should be easy to test by tuning a shortwave radio in that region and observing the "S" meter around those frequencies. When does the needle pin?

Unfortunately Deyo gives no numbers for amount of energy available, so it could be microWatts or milliWatts.

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[0031] This preferred embodiment uses a parallel, tuned
circuit to access a Wide range of frequencies usually to be
found in the range of 4.5 to 7 MHZ. This range encompasses
the major, naturally-occurring, resonant frequencies found in
the ionosphere.

 Despite all the usual talk we find in these type patents about replacing coal, oil, nuclear, he makes no reference to any reasonable power levels that I could find in the patent. Usually a claimant will supply some typical data for an experimental device.

I think this website is a more accurate representation of what Stan is into these days:

http://www.standeyo.com/

Nevertheless it would be an interesting test to put a HV charged capacitor to a large antenna up high, and see if the coupling to a resonant circuit improves.

Regards


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Yes, this is Stan Deyo. I saw a video by him several years ago explaining this theory. The link is below. This idea is covered starting at 54:30 and the Trump work starts at 1:01:40. The Trump part is what interested me because it is a non-linear response to increasing charge density. Raising the voltage on the plates 100 times cases a 1000 times increase in force. It is, IMO, what we call parametric oscillation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HW6wY60dJI

Side bar: John Trump was President Donald Trump's uncle but, more importantly, he is one of the scientists who examined Tesla's confiscated papers after Tesla's death and reported there was nothing of interest in those papers. Nothing of interest? Really? I suspect they were looking for information that would relate to nuclear weapons and didn't find anything related to that topic. The Manhattan Project was started in 1939 and the nuclear bombs were dropped on Japan in 1945. So there's no doubt the U.S. government would have been interested in what was in Tesla's papers in 1943 when he died. That's probably why they were confiscated. There might not have been anything related to nuclear weapons but there must have been a reason Tesla kept them in a safe in his hotel room.

I don't, however, think the atmosphere works electrically as Deyo claims. There has been a lot of talk about coupling to the voltage difference between the ionosphere and the surface of the earth but they all somehow seem to forget about the jet stream and its +250 MPH winds between the ionosphere and the troposphere.

Bear with me a moment: Tesla's initial power transmission patent talks about transmitting power between balloons maintained at 30,000 feet. We have to remember that there were no airplanes at that time so it was feasible. His Colorado Springs notes have entries talking about electrically extracting hydrogen from the atmosphere to maintain the balloons at altitude. He never attempted the balloon to balloon transmission. There would surely be photos of the effort if he had attempted it. It's just as well that he didn't attempt it because the jet stream was unknown at the time except by one Japanese man who was studying the jet stream but had not yet published anything. Tesla's balloons would have been in the jet stream at that altitude.

Here's the relevance: That raises the question of whether or not Tesla meant to raise the insulated, elevated plate of his radiant energy collector to a similar altitude. We know that radiation at  higher altitudes is much higher than at ground level. That's one of the reasons flight crews have limited flight schedules - to reduce their radiation exposure. They are also required to wear dosimeters when flying.

I know for a fact that Tesla's radiant energy collector collects the charge from charged particles rather than atmospheric electrostatic charge. I've built one and monitored multiple times per day for months. Two experiences confirm that it's charged particles being collected.

I first built the collector on the north side of my house during the winter when the sun is nearer the horizon. I got readings in the millivolt range and they varied from time to time and were lower at night but still present. I put it away for some time and got back to it during June of the same year. Everything was set up as before but I was getting no reading - not even in the microvolt range. What I discovered was that, being in the summer, the sun was directly overhead and now shining directly on the elevated plate, but, more importantly, also directly on the ground around the 9 foot ground rod I was using. I pulled the ground rod, insulated the top 4 feet of it with heat shrink tubing, reinstalled it, and once again got readings. My conclusion was that the charged particles were penetrating the soil and neutralizing the charge before it got to the collector. Cosmic rays and the like can penetrate even solid rock.

The second experience occurred one night while I was taking readings. There was a thunder storm some miles from me but I did not have rain in my location although I could see the lightning. While I was taking a reading a cloud to cloud lightning strike occurred. It's was very bright so I looked at it immediately to judge the distance and my danger. It was still miles away. When I looked back to my meter the reading had jumped to many times the reading that I had previously taken. A bit of research revealed that sufficiently strong lightning can emit x-rays and gamma rays. I'm certain that was the cause of the increased reading because the meter slowly returned to the previous, lower reading.

While taking the readings I also recorded various environmental factors such as temperature, humidity, wind, etc but found no correlation between the readings and the environmental factors. Once I realized that the charge was coming from charged particles traversing the atmosphere I started recording solar wind speed and density from a web site. What I found surprised me. There was an inverse relationship between the readings taken and the solar wind density. It's as if the more dense solar wind is analogous to a cloud passing between a photovoltaic collector and the sun. The following link is to a site that maps the solar wind. You can see what Deyo was talking about. Keep in mind that we are in a time when the sun is very calm right now and the solar wind is usually more erratic than what we are seeing at the moment. Also note that cosmic rays come from many sources and all directions, not just the sun and those rays are typically more powerful that those from the sun.
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/products/wsa-enlil-solar-wind-prediction

Overall, it was disappointing. The amount of charge collected might be sufficient to charge a cell phone in a day or two but then I'm only about 500 feet above sea level. Who knows what it would be with a balloon maintained at 30,000 feet or, more realistically, at the top of a 5,000 or 10,000 foot mountain? That, however, raises the same problem as hydroelectric power- location, location, location.

http://simplebooklet.com/publish.php?wpKey=bTtYzof1KNek7UnJ8obmwF#page=0
http://quarknet.fnal.gov/resources/QN_CloudChamberV1_4.pdf
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/10/121016131515.htm

 

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