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Author Topic: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass  (Read 1858 times)

Offline vikram_gupta11

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I'm presenting a very unique mathematically proved concept regarding an Energy technology to solve the problem of energy forever.The most important point is that it is being proved mathematically and will work really.
This technology will work to produce more output than input.


Principle:This technology is based on balanced mass and gravity.

Mechanism:As per sketch there will be  a SEESAW system and two 100 kilogram Iron ball will be mounted on the each Arm of this seesaw making it in balanced position.These Iron balls will be covered with two boxes but will free to move in the boxes .There will be two Linear or Piston generators attached with the lower surface of boxes to generate electricity.

A 10 watt motor will be attached with the right arm of this balanced seesaw with the help of a 'L' form crank to turn the seesaw towards up and down side.


HOW it will work?

When the 10 watt motor will press the right arm of seesaw with the help of 'L' form crank then this side will move towards down side but the left side of seesaw will move towards up side and a force will be create due to  which  100 kilogram Iron ball will be jumped up vertically and come down due to gravity .when this ball will come down then it will strike or hit with the piston or linear generator and this generator will move to generate energy.

In this way when right side arm will move towards upside then its 100 kilogram iron ball will move upside and will come down due to gravity and hit with piston generator and this generator will produce energy.

In this way both side will work turn by turn. There is a need of only 10 watt input as we can see that system is in a balanced position.



Mathematics Equations:
Suppose the 100 kilogram iron ball move up vertically up to 5 centimeter then ,

Potential Energy= m.g.h

Energy= 100*9.8*.05

energy=49 joule


Hence
Potential energy=Kinetic energy

 so the kinetic energy will be 49 joule or in other words the iron ball will strike with piston generator with 49 joule  to produce more output than input.

If we take only 50% efficiency of generator then it will also almost 25 watt and both arm's overall output will be 50 watt which  is 500% more than input as input is only 10 watt.

In this way this technology will work .There is no doubt regarding the feasibility of this tech.
If someone has doubts then please contact me as I'm ready to clear all doubts.
« Last Edit: April 26, 2017, 12:47:33 PM by vikram_gupta11 »

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Offline memoryman

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Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2017, 06:15:51 PM »
Won't work.
The sum of potential energy in the balls is zero; so is the potential energy converted into kinetic energy.
Net result: energy losses in various frictions.


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Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2017, 02:30:09 AM »
If you don't know nothing then you shouldn't comment like a child. I have calculated all energy losses and already mentioned about this  that the generator efficiency will be 50 % but it can be upto 70 to 80 % and energy output may be more than I calculated.

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Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2017, 02:50:44 AM »
"don't know nothing" is double negative meaning 'know something'.
Your math is both misapplied and wrong.


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Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2017, 02:57:28 AM »
OK! then you please tell me the right maths to calculate the energy out put applied in this tech.

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Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2017, 02:57:28 AM »
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Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2017, 02:59:52 AM »
You made the claim that it produces excess energy; YOU demonstrate it (you can't).

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Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2017, 03:11:18 AM »
 it is being proved mathematically and it is sufficient .There is no doubt regarding the feasibility of this tech  and I don't have technical sources to build it.

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Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2017, 03:11:18 AM »
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Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2017, 03:22:13 AM »
Your math is wrong and misapplied.
I have seen countless similar wrong claims. Don't waste your time.

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Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2017, 07:41:37 AM »
So why are you not telling me right maths ?Tell me right math to applied in this tech.You have seen countless claims but no claim was presented  with  proven mathematics.There is no chance of any mistake in this concept so that you could find to prove it wrong.This is completely a overunity device.

Tell me right math  and prove it wrong mathematically if you have knowledge of  math.
 

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Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2017, 07:45:16 AM »
This is a 2d design, it can be simulated by wm2d.

NASA uses wm2d.

Make a wm2d sim to know for sure, its better than math.

Theres 1000's of reason why hand calculation can be wrong.

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Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
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Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2017, 07:53:33 AM »
There is no need of any kind of software to know the feasibility of this concept .If you have understood it and above all there are no chance of the wrong math in this device .

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Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2017, 04:31:23 PM »
1: gravity is conservative (look it up if you don't understand)
2: where do you get the 10W motor figure from?


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Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2017, 05:27:55 PM »
Mechanism:As per sketch there will be  a SEESAW system and two 100 kilogram Iron ball will be mounted on the each Arm of this seesaw making it in balanced position.These Iron balls will be covered with two boxes but will free to move in the boxes .There will be two Linear or Piston generators attached with the lower surface of boxes to generate electricity.

A 10 watt motor will be attached with the right arm of this balanced seesaw with the help of a 'L' form crank to turn the seesaw towards up and down side.

When the 10 watt motor will press the right arm of seesaw with the help of 'L' form crank then this side will move towards down side but the left side of seesaw will move towards up side and a force will be create due to  which  100 kilogram Iron ball will be jumped up vertically and come down due to gravity .when this ball will come down then it will strike or hit with the piston or linear generator and this generator will move to generate energy.

In this way when right side arm will move towards upside then its 100 kilogram iron ball will move upside and will come down due to gravity and hit with piston generator and this generator will produce energy.

In this way both side will work turn by turn. There is a need of only 10 watt input as we can see that system is in a balanced position.



Mathematics Equations:
Suppose the 100 kilogram iron ball move up vertically up to 5 centimeter then ,

Potential Energy= m.g.h

Energy= 100*9.8*.05

energy=49 joule


Hence
Potential energy=Kinetic energy

 so the kinetic energy will be 49 joule or in other words the iron ball will strike with piston generator with 49 joule  to produce more output than input.

If we take only 50% efficiency of generator then it will also almost 25 watt and both arm's overall output will be 50 watt which  is 500% more than input as input is only 10 watt.

In this way this technology will work .There is no doubt regarding the feasibility of this tech.
If someone has doubts then please contact me as I'm ready to clear all doubts.

IIUC,

Your plan is to use the 10W motor to accelerate the 2 100kg masses enough so that the mass being accelerated upwards can "jump".

If this jump is 5cm, per your math, then you would need to add 49J, per your math, into the 100kg mass.
If your plan is not to make the mass "jump" but rather drop the lever down,, then you do not have a balanced lever arm during that transition and you would need to add 49J, per your math, into the other mass.

The question is "how" does the 100kg mass change its relative distance from the generator.

The masses may be in a force balance with gravity but f=ma and then f*d=j and you are accelerating 200kg, not 100kg.

ETA:
The 10w motor will need to run for approximately 4.9 seconds to supply the needed energy.

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Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2017, 08:39:23 AM »
The both 100 kg. mass can move freely in the box or in other words on the surface of piston generator.
The equation F=ma will be worked in a different way as here we are not turning an Imbalanced mass but a balanced system .if masses are equal or a seesaw is in equilibrium position then the applied force will be very very less to turn it.
I have used 10 watt or 10 newton force  so that anyone could understand it easily.
The mass will be jumped  due to applied force and due to free movement in the box as the arm will exert a force  on the masses.
Remember that the whole system is  in a balanced position untill a 10 watt or 10 newton force is not applied  but when 10 newton force will be applied then it will turn .I have put 5 centimeter jump figure to understand the concept as you also know that the masses will be jumped up to more height such as 10 cm. to 20 cm as it will be depend on the length of "L" form crank.If mass is balanced then according to F=ma the F=a or both 100 kg.mass will be accelerated  as per applied force.it is not necessary to take input 10 watt or 10 newton force .The input force can be 5 watt or 5 newton force.
 I have also mentioned that the efficiency of generator is 50% but it can be more 70 to 85% so it is very much clear that it will work.


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Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2017, 02:06:45 PM »
So please consider this.

The arm needs to supply enough energy to the 100kg masses so that the one going up can "jump" up and away from the generator shaft.  That jump by your math is 5cm and that energy required to be put into that 100kg mass is the energy that you are taking back out.

The system is balanced, but not moving,, now you need to accelerate the system up to speed so that the 100kg can "jump" a further 5cm than what the arm lifted it to,, that takes the input to accelerate 200kg of mass,, the one going down needs to go down at a faster rate than what gravity can supply,, the one going up needs to go up faster than the rate of gravity so that it can have enough momentum to jump 5cm.

Now you need to ask yourself "how" does the 100kg mass jump?
If you put one on your desk will it jump? of course not but if you make it go fast enough it will,, let me repeat that if *YOU* make it go fast enough,, so now you need to solve for how much YOU have put in.

How much energy is used by the 10W motor if it runs for 4.9seconds per "jump"?

Hint: 49J

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Re: Mathematically proven Infinite energy machine based on balanced Mass
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