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Offline ramset

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Re: THE RANT ROOM
« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2017, 12:28:33 AM »
Scratchrobot quote



I read it again and if you register to this site: 'you agree, trough your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is false'.


This is no incident, this whole forum is full of false OU claims
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@ Scratchrobot

Your point is well taken, the example which lead to the result mentioned here by administration was more personal conduct violation and breaking laws .

 Libel against members here {lies, fraud claims etc etc] as well as very poor behaviors within the forum]other violations of etiquette ]

Scratchrobot
your position here has merit and you argument cannot be dismissed ,but we do dismiss such everyday ,and we all look at it as
"ongoing investigation of claims"

its what we do here.
I know other forums do not allow unsupported claims ,and will change tittles of threads to avoid other types of liability issues.

here I cannot comment any further .

I personally have nothing but gratitude and respect for Stefan's accommodations here.

respectfully
Chet K


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« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2017, 09:01:20 PM »
I just found this thread so am kind of slow to respond.

First I want to thank Stefan very much for dealing with Zephir.  He truly was a serious disruption to this forum.

@Scratchrobot, I understand what you are saying about the misleading titles on many of the threads here.  It also irritates me that anyone would make claims that are not true.  However I think in a lot of cases the person starting those threads actually thought they had some kind of free energy or OU.  They were just too inexperienced to know how to really test and verify what they had.  And that is one of the purposes of this forum: to test and verify claims of OU.

Another thing to consider is the idea of truth in advertising.  What I am talking about here is that not everyone sees things the same.  Here in the U.S.  a pizza company had as their slogan "Better ingredients, better pizza, Papa John's.  They were sued by another company for claiming they had better ingredients. The judge ruled they could continue to use that slogan because he said that whether the ingredients were better was up to the consumer to decide.  The judge ruled that claims can be made in advertising as long as they are not blatantly wrong.  So if someone claims to have OU it is up to us to use our own knowledge and experience to prove or disprove their claim.

You have been here long enough to know if the claims turn out to be false the poster usually gets roasted and leave on their own.  Or in some cases like Zephir get the boot from the admin.

There are a couple of posters on this forum I would have gotten rid of long ago because their ideas are clearly wrong, but in the interest of letting everyone have their say I suppose they don't really do any harm because I think most of us just ignore anything they post.

Respectfully,
Carroll

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« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2017, 11:08:19 PM »
All of the forums are quite interesting to read and evaluate
as they present much "food for thought."

Sadly, there are on occasion postings which reveal more
about the "builder" than they reveal about the target
of the attack.

These are the sorts of postings which are indicative of an
underlying state of imbalance.

What is one to think?

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« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2017, 12:16:50 AM »
All of the forums are quite interesting to read and evaluate
as they present much "food for thought."

Sadly, there are on occasion postings which reveal more
about the "builder" than they reveal about the target
of the attack.

These are the sorts of postings which are indicative of an
underlying state of imbalance.

What is one to think?
That the guy is at his wits end possibly pissed off perhaps.  ;D 8)

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« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2017, 12:29:58 AM »
I just found this thread so am kind of slow to respond.

First I want to thank Stefan very much for dealing with Zephir.  He truly was a serious disruption to this forum.

@Scratchrobot, I understand what you are saying about the misleading titles on many of the threads here.  It also irritates me that anyone would make claims that are not true.  However I think in a lot of cases the person starting those threads actually thought they had some kind of free energy or OU.  They were just too inexperienced to know how to really test and verify what they had.  And that is one of the purposes of this forum: to test and verify claims of OU.

Another thing to consider is the idea of truth in advertising.  What I am talking about here is that not everyone sees things the same.  Here in the U.S.  a pizza company had as their slogan "Better ingredients, better pizza, Papa John's.  They were sued by another company for claiming they had better ingredients. The judge ruled they could continue to use that slogan because he said that whether the ingredients were better was up to the consumer to decide.  The judge ruled that claims can be made in advertising as long as they are not blatantly wrong.  So if someone claims to have OU it is up to us to use our own knowledge and experience to prove or disprove their claim.

You have been here long enough to know if the claims turn out to be false the poster usually gets roasted and leave on their own.  Or in some cases like Zephir get the boot from the admin.

There are a couple of posters on this forum I would have gotten rid of long ago because their ideas are clearly wrong, but in the interest of letting everyone have their say I suppose they don't really do any harm because I think most of us just ignore anything they post.

Respectfully,
Carroll
Mr Carrol I  cant say I agree fully but know the feeling only too well  ;D 8) AG

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« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2017, 01:13:30 AM »
SeaMonkey
well
I'm inclined to agree with AG on this [the reason], not saying its a good path...that is.. going forward with a replication without his "overview" ,  we know how troublesome that can be and it is never conclusive without the inventors help....unless its successful .

and just for clarity the effect which Matt was showing as important
was not acknowledged in the reply to him.... discussions suggested this effect was "explained"
as the result of equipment irregularities ... HOWEVER it could well be a very ,very important point or moment in the running device where energy can be harvested OR ??.

also to note the device as presented is the most Basic and rudimentary version ,but years of hard work went into this .
it has evolved greatly since then.

So what now ??
we shall see? [Luc will make some tests of his own now with the suggestions made to date.
he was holding off out of respect to the builder .
he does have all the bits and pieces ,it was a concern that Matt had mentioned trouble with Parts sometimes ... that is to say certain parts not performing as they should ??
and having to swap them out until it worked like it should ?
this was one reason I was very grateful that Matt was going to take the time to test run the unit
prior to sending it to the Lab.


To Note

I absolutely believe these fellows [Matt, Dave and Carroll] and the things they say they have seen.
and I do like Matt, he is one very ,very hard working man trying to run a business and help others too.

a very intense fellow with little time on his hands.

respectfully
Chet

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« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2017, 07:03:32 AM »
SeaMonkey
well
I'm inclined to agree with AG on this [the reason], not saying its a good path...that is.. going forward with a replication without his "overview" ,  we know how troublesome that can be and it is never conclusive without the inventors help....unless its successful .

and just for clarity the effect which Matt was showing as important
was not acknowledged in the reply to him.... discussions suggested this effect was "explained"
as the result of equipment irregularities ... HOWEVER it could well be a very ,very important point or moment in the running device where energy can be harvested OR ??.

also to note the device as presented is the most Basic and rudimentary version ,but years of hard work went into this .
it has evolved greatly since then.

So what now ??
we shall see? [Luc will make some tests of his own now with the suggestions made to date.
he was holding off out of respect to the builder .
he does have all the bits and pieces ,it was a concern that Matt had mentioned trouble with Parts sometimes ... that is to say certain parts not performing as they should ??
and having to swap them out until it worked like it should ?
this was one reason I was very grateful that Matt was going to take the time to test run the unit
prior to sending it to the Lab.


To Note

I absolutely believe these fellows [Matt, Dave and Carroll] and the things they say they have seen.
and I do like Matt, he is one very ,very hard working man trying to run a business and help others too.

a very intense fellow with little time on his hands.

respectfully
Chet

It always seems to be the case-as time go's  by,and exact replications fail to yeild the results claimed by the inventer,more parts are needed--or you you have done something wrong.

I remember when i did the replication,all that was needed was 3 batteries and a 12v DC motor.

After spending $240.00 on 3 new batteries,and carrying out the experiment as told,negative results were had.

Then i had to swap out the motor for an inverter.
After another $130.00,and now being the proud owner of a new invertet,we ran the next set of tests.
Once again,negative results.

Now-now we need to have specially  wound motors,which have turned out to be great heaters :D

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Offline AlienGrey

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« Reply #37 on: November 28, 2017, 07:50:02 AM »
It always seems to be the case-as time go's  by,and exact replications fail to yeild the results claimed by the inventer,more parts are needed--or you you have done something wrong.

I remember when i did the replication,all that was needed was 3 batteries and a 12v DC motor.

After spending $240.00 on 3 new batteries,and carrying out the experiment as told,negative results were had.

Then i had to swap out the motor for an inverter.
After another $130.00,and now being the proud owner of a new invertet,we ran the next set of tests.
Once again,negative results.

Now-now we need to have specially  wound motors,which have turned out to be great heaters :D
Tin man this reminds me of a device I made a transformer in fact a ferrite torrid in fact to be used in a
TK Dally replication extremely modified wingdings and torrid alloy with more out than in at a certain frequency (1.67 Mhz)
lighting an incandescent 40w at half power from just a SGen and collection grenade coil you could say it was brilliant with retraces to gains dividing back down to 8hz multipal up as far as  the mhz rang, it was so good i lashed out and bought 2 more lots of components and drivers for more output with a collection transformer.
But do you think I could get the other copies to work  ;D ;D ;D ;D could I heck.

Still I have learnt a good bit since then from others. I must admit none of us know it all, but we can learn from each other. however I remember one particular video an inverter was showing video after video I happen to notice a pile of capacitors and diodes tucked away where under normal glancing would neglect next time i saw the video that section had been removed.

Allen

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« Reply #38 on: November 28, 2017, 07:56:03 AM »
Tin man this reminds me of a device I made a transformer in fact a ferrite torrid in fact to be used in a
TK Dally replication extremely modified wingdings and torrid alloy with more in than out at a certain frequency
lighting an incandescent 40w at half power from just a SGen and collection grenade coil you could say it was brilliant with referaces to gains dividing back down to 8hz multipal up as far as  the mhz rang, it was so good i lashed out and bought 2 more lots of components and drivers for more output with a collection transformer.
But do you think I could get the other copies to work  ;D ;D ;D ;D could I heck.

Still I have learnt a good bit since then from others. I must admit none of us know it all, but we can learn from each other.

Allen

More in than out at a certain frequency?

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« Reply #39 on: November 28, 2017, 08:19:15 AM »
More in than out at a certain frequency?
yeah still half asleep  ;D thanks for that corrected it, it was something to do with the shamann resonance. 8hz repatriation.

Allen

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« Reply #40 on: November 28, 2017, 08:50:17 PM »
Chet,
I suppose it is the unfortunate "reality" that some of the
"builders" are hooked on drama and emotional retort.
Such behaviors do detract from the seriousness of the
endeavor and do seem quite childish for grown men to
indulge in.

It too is amusing that the vast majority of the so-called
"free-energy" circuits and devices under "replication" and
discussion these days are in reality duplications of circuits
and devices dating back to the earliest days of electrical
experimentation and discovery.  There truly is nothing new
under the sun.

I have seen how the accurate analyses provided by those
who are vastly more experienced and educated, such as
the infamous Miles Higher, tends to provoke angry denials
and emotional attacks upon his integrity.  That sort of drama
too is characteristic of even the earliest days of research
and discovery.  Thankfully, in the end, the Truth about all
matters comes into the light of day.

Until it is forgotten and the process starts anew....

If the concept behind a "discovery" suspected of producing
anomaloous "free-energy" is a sound concept, then "exact"
duplication of every detail in the "discovery circuitry" is not
a necessity at all.  The concept will be made manifest in
all trials large or small providing the concept is well understood
and isolated as the actual source of the apparent "free energy."

In the vast majority of cases under discussion these days and
those about which numerous you-tube videos have been created
by "builders," the concept is not accurately isolated nor is it well
understood by those touting its wonders.  Another sad reality
regarding modern day experimentation is that most of the
"builders" are not well educated in the phenomena which they
are observing and therefore are easily misled to wrong conclusions
about what they believe they are "seeing."

There is very abundant Free Energy capable of being collected
and made use of everywhere upon Planet Earth.  The Sun
showers us with enormous quantities of both Radiant and
Electrical energy each day.  Unfortunately, the Corporate Love
of Money coupled with Governmental Politics has impeded much
progress in developing efficient methods of exploiting those
vast quantities of Free Energy.

Most "builders" are looking in the wrong direction.

I should add that I appreciate what Bro Mikey discusses
and shows us.  Although occasionally emotional, he never
fails to make amends and corrections.  His videos are
quite interesting.  His understanding of things electrical
and electronic has actually come a long ways.

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« Reply #41 on: November 28, 2017, 09:02:51 PM »
Chet,
I suppose it is the unfortunate "reality" that some of the
"builders" are hooked on drama and emotional retort.
Such behaviors do detract from the seriousness of the
endeavor and do seem quite childish for grown men to
indulge in.

It too is amusing that the vast majority of the so-called
"free-energy" circuits and devices under "replication" and
discussion these days are in reality duplications of circuits
and devices dating back to the earliest days of electrical
experimentation and discovery.  There truly is nothing new
under the sun.

I have seen how the accurate analyses provided by those
who are vastly more experienced and educated, such as
the infamous Miles Higher, tends to provoke angry denials
and emotional attacks upon his integrity.  That sort of drama
too is characteristic of even the earliest days of research
and discovery.  Thankfully, in the end, the Truth about all
matters comes into the light of day.

Until it is forgotten and the process starts anew....

If the concept behind a "discovery" suspected of producing
anomaloous "free-energy" is a sound concept, then "exact"
duplication of every detail in the "discovery circuitry" is not
a necessity at all.  The concept will be made manifest in
all trials large or small providing the concept is well understood
and isolated as the actual source of the apparent "free energy."

In the vast majority of cases under discussion these days and
those about which numerous you-tube videos have been created
by "builders," the concept is not accurately isolated nor is it well
understood by those touting its wonders.  Another sad reality
regarding modern day experimentation is that most of the
"builders" are not well educated in the phenomena which they
are observing and therefore are easily misled to wrong conclusions
about what they believe they are "seeing."

There is very abundant Free Energy capable of being collected
and made use of everywhere upon Planet Earth.  The Sun
showers us with enormous quantities of both Radiant and
Electrical energy each day.  Unfortunately, the Corporate Love
of Money coupled with Governmental Politics has impeded much
progress in developing efficient methods of exploiting those
vast quantities of Free Energy.

Most "builders" are looking in the wrong direction.
Yes I agree but know nothing about the named but get the point with others
All that works is the 'RADIANT' energy, so how many ways can you get it make it or emulate it ?

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« Reply #42 on: November 28, 2017, 10:49:14 PM »
SeaMonkey

Today the world has come to a place where the average Child has more information at his fingertips at any given moment than we can even comprehend , the knowledge seems limitless, all these Children effectively are super computers in the making , our view of the reality around us is changing just as fast [with new discoveries by the minute ].

I would not want to be the POWERS THAT BE trying to control all of that !

never happen... too much knowledge in too many hands. [I read somewhere "billions" of I phones
and climbing daily]
couple that group with advancements in Science??
 5 or 6 years ago you could buy electron beam microscopes at bargain basement prices..
even find them in the junk pile...
as that world got smaller the need to see it  grew exponentially.

and old scopes became obsolete over night [for cutting edge research]

the guy who can see the wheelworks of Nature at the "builders" level and learn how to manipulate and play there??

Yeesh ,I doubt even the Sky is the limit

There is plenty new under the sun ,and its been under our noses all along ,its just that now

it seems we will be like ....Gods ??.

and I am quite certain many science books will be amended in some very big ways !!

what an amazing time to be alive !

Re the topic of respect between men ...we definitely need a lot more of that ,and a lot less of the other.
 
and I do speak for myself ,its not an easy thing to manage sometimes ,but practice makes ??

respectfully
Chet K

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« Reply #43 on: November 28, 2017, 11:22:19 PM »
Quote from: Alien Grey
All that works is the 'RADIANT' energy, so how many ways can you get it make it or emulate it ?

The spectrum of "Radiant" energy is very, very broad.

Unfortunately, most "builders" have no idea.

Quote from: Chet K
...the average Child has more information at his fingertips at any given moment than we can even comprehend.

While this may be technically correct it seems to me
that this enormous resource is little utilized.  Even
among those who proclaim themselves proudly to be
"Builders."

Quote from: Chet K
There is plenty new under the sun ,and its been under our noses all along ,its just that now

it seems we will be like ....Gods ??.

The technology has advanced by leaps and bounds
but the underlying principles remain as they were.
We Earthlings have been given much help in order to
make those technological advances.  Those entities
who have provided that assistance could be thought
of as possibly "gods."  Have we humans become any
more capable physically and mentally than those before
us in earlier centuries and millennia?  Many would say
that the modern human has been intentionally "dumbed
down" by the "establishment" in order to be more
compliant and docile. 

It is true that Science Books are being continuously amended
to include ether more or less "complex information."
Unfortunately, Science in our modern world is very much controlled
by those in positions of power.  To our detriment.

The Forums are very entertaining and it is gratifying to see
how certain of the experimenters grow in knowledge and
experience.  The brightest among them are able to
learn much without great monetary investment in futile
"builds" or large, expensive machinery/devices.

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« Reply #44 on: November 29, 2017, 12:32:14 AM »
Oh come on I'm asking you  ::) I'm not trying to be funny but It's not a secret is it ?

All that works is the 'RADIANT' energy, so how many ways can you get it make it or emulate it ?

The spectrum of "Radiant" energy is very, very broad. perhaps it is or perhaps it's just a disguise ?

Unfortunately, most "builders" have no idea..... all I have asked think Akula and other guy Ruslan  are the only masters
but I don't see any way to make it in the circuits even Henry Morays son obviously has no idea and Peter Letterman always appears in communications but never discloses more than he has to.

So now that the lid is off the RADIANT rubbish bin what have we got in side
Hmm it's so full of half completed circuits diagnosis and whats this cow dung?
no most of it is BS  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D shovel that out and now whats at the bottom
under what looks like a radio reciver covered in salt that was thrown in a lake with a
Russian bullet hole in it,but wait whats under that ?
Why its Mr Tesla's notes. the truth at last perhaps ?
 so how about you opening up the last section ?
your chance to shine  :o :D :)
ANY ONE ?
AG
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