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Author Topic: Re: Inventors and replicators - social aspects of overunity community  (Read 3527 times)

Offline Zephir

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i know in detail all points of that circuit and other variations that i did in last years

Hi, Mr. Rocha and thank You for your pointing to the MAC's video and for your visit again 8) "Elitist" replicators will be tamed in this board for sure...

But could You please give us hint of the purpose of the intriguing arrangement of the wire in your scheme and devices?
Is it crucial for replication of the proper function of Your circuit? I can see, that the replicators still ignore this "detail" and I feel uneasy with it.

Instead of direct answer you can just indicate it kindly with a single letter:

A) for protection of Darlington transistor against spikes
B ) for maintaining the parameter oscillator character of your circuit
C) like an antenna for spreading of radiation into outside
D) for another purpose not mentioned above...

Thank You indeed very much for your occasional reply!

Best, Zephir.

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Re: Re: Inventors and replicators - social aspects of overunity community
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2017, 10:16:03 PM »
unfortunately was my last contribution about this subject .

Seems some “funny” persons like ridicularize my efforts and my work and in that way, certainly they not need any kind of support, i tell that because even in their elitist forum “overunityresearch.com” they simple not show any respect by my person and my efforts and by what i share .
In that way no more information will “travel” from this forum to overunityresearch.com .
 
This topic was blocked in Overunity.com just because some persons get “pouting” , and prefer go work in their “private” forum where they feel freely to use their habitual behavior and language and talk what they want . So in this way , they can continue with their jokes ,and laugh because laugh is good for health , but the will not have nothing more by me .

Myself do not understand, the reason to they continue to waste time on something they do not believe or even understand by the way .
I already share the essential for anyone who is interested in build that circuit otherwise people not satisfied with my decision just , leave it .
I’m really a fool thinking some persons could change :(  its my fault .

Nelson Rocha

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Re: Re: Inventors and replicators - social aspects of overunity community
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2017, 10:44:56 PM »
Hi, Mr. Rocha and thank You for your pointing to the MAC's video and for your visit again 8) "Elitist" replicators will be tamed in this board for sure...

But could You please give us hint of the purpose of the intriguing arrangement of the wire in your scheme and devices?
Is it crucial for replication of the proper function of Your circuit? I can see, that the replicators still ignore this "detail" and I feel uneasy with it.

Instead of direct answer you can just indicate it kindly with a single letter:

A) for protection of Darlington transistor against spikes
B ) for maintaining the parameter oscillator character of your circuit
C) like an antenna for spreading of radiation into outside
D) for another purpose not mentioned above...

Thank You indeed very much for your occasional reply!

Best, Zephir.

I can understand the questions, but once already asked, and further asking requires further asking, then i dint think there is need to further ask. OK?

If you just keep on asking it becomes distracting and disturbing.  You have said your part numerous times and I think everyone has caught on. If nobody has answered you by now, then stop pressing for it. Otherwise the only purpose is to fill pages and bother others.

Mags


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Re: Re: Inventors and replicators - social aspects of overunity community
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2017, 11:16:43 PM »
Quote from: nelsonrochaa
unfortunately was my last contribution about this subject .

I fully understand your sentiments Nelson.  I did hope people would be more
receptive and appreciative to what you have shared.  As they say, "It wasn't
in the cards."

For me and a few others, we will work in private and eventually discover the
secrets you have unlocked, walking in your shoes miles behind.  Your gift
will not be wasted.

hugs

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Re: Re: Inventors and replicators - social aspects of overunity community
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2017, 11:24:33 PM »
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unfortunately was my last contribution about this subject .

Seems some “funny” persons like ridicularize my efforts and my work and in that way, certainly they not need any kind of support, i tell that because even in their elitist forum “overunityresearch.com” they simple not show any respect by my person and my efforts and by what i share .
In that way no more information will “travel” from this forum to overunityresearch.com .
 
This topic was blocked in Overunity.com just because some persons get “pouting” , and prefer go work in their “private” forum where they feel freely to use their habitual behavior and language and talk what they want . So in this way , they can continue with their jokes ,and laugh because laugh is good for health , but the will not have nothing more by me .

Myself do not understand, the reason to they continue to waste time on something they do not believe or even understand by the way .
I already share the essential for anyone who is interested in build that circuit otherwise people not satisfied with my decision just , leave it .
I’m really a fool thinking some persons could change :(  its my fault .

Nelson Rocha

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To be absolutely clear
there is only one reason the topic was locked and the discussion left this forum
member Zephir calling builders here Liars and frauds who purposely build to Hide OU
And member Zephir polluting the topic with redundant profoundly obvious "Epiphanies and observations" .

member Zephir did state along with these criminal accusations that OU is easy...



The rest is unfortunate [over there at OUR]
regardless your decision I will address that ASAP.

respectfully
Chet K



Stefan has not addressed this yet?[the Zephir crimes]
I know he is busy moving house atm




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Re: Re: Inventors and replicators - social aspects of overunity community
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2017, 11:24:33 PM »
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Offline Zephir

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Re: Re: Inventors and replicators - social aspects of overunity community
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2017, 11:56:01 PM »
Tomorrow I'll move all nontechnical posts (including this last mine one which was left unanswered) into psychosociologically oriented thread named "Replicators vs. inventors" or somehow similar for the sake of continuity and free speech.

I think, there is principal conflict of interests: the replicators have respect and they want to get know-how cheaply (without exerting work), the inventors have know-how and they want to get the respect cheaply (i.e. without saving some work for replicators). It's symmetric situation and both groups get upset  once they cannot get what they want soon - so they tend to ridicule each other. This is so natural and predictable outcome, that it can be discussed in dedicated thread and not maintained in every thread of this forum. 

I even think, that the problem of borrowing information (hidden work) from inventors is not very different from problem of draining work from overunity devices and similar strategy could be used (I mean other than thick wires and high voltage pulses). The inventors are negentropic subjects which advanced time arrow of their epoch. They resemble black holes which don't release information into outside despite they attract everyone with it.

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Re: Re: Inventors and replicators - social aspects of overunity community
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2017, 11:58:39 PM »
I already share the essential for anyone who is interested in build that circuit otherwise people not satisfied with my decision just , leave it .
I’m really a fool thinking some persons could change :(  its my fault .

Nelson Rocha

Thank you for sharing your investigative tool.

Not a fool,, an optimist.  You are looking for the good in and amongst the bad.

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Re: Re: Inventors and replicators - social aspects of overunity community
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Offline Jimboot

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Re: Re: Inventors and replicators - social aspects of overunity community
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2017, 12:25:12 AM »
That's a shame Nelson.


The other discussion thread was locked because we were all being abused by one other member.


I'm really enjoying your circuit. Thanks you for your contribution so far.

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Re: Re: Inventors and replicators - social aspects of overunity community
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2017, 12:32:32 AM »
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I’m really a fool thinking some persons could change

Like I or Vortex1 has already said, I'm not fond of "cargo cult" replicators, who just wire the diagrams blindly and when they don't generate nothing interesting, then they attack the inventor, who gave them this info selflessly. But from the same reason I don't start with replications until I will not get the problem at least a bit and until I have no idea, what and how I could get from it.

If I would want to see neon tube powered with some black box circuit, I can simply switch the plasma ball on my table with the same result. Look before you leap.

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The other discussion thread was locked because we were all being abused by one other member

When I did come here I just experienced the conflict of Nelson Rocha with "elitist" but visibly frustrated replicators, who started to spread conviction, that the overunity is impossible because they failed with it many times. Such a defeatist mindset will not help anyone here so I asked the "elitists" to leave forum with such an attitude. I recognized Mr. Rocha as the only competent constructor here in this moment and claimed his Radiant Exciter as an important and simple enough prototype for future progress. In response to it Grumage opened a new thread about it.

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Re: Re: Inventors and replicators - social aspects of overunity community
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2017, 12:36:45 AM »
Like I or Vortex1 has already said, I'm not fond of "cargo cult" replicators, who just wire the diagrams blindly and when they don't generate nothing interesting, then they attack the inventor, who gave them this info selflessly. But from the same reason I don't start with replications until I will not get the problem at least a bit and until I have no idea, what and how I could get from it.

If I would want to see neon tube powered with some black box circuit, I can simply start the plasma ball on my table with the same result.


[size=78%]You're the only one doing any attacking here Zephir by your anonymous & libellous accusations. We're just trying to work with what Nelson has so generously shared. [/size]

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Re: Re: Inventors and replicators - social aspects of overunity community
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2017, 12:58:14 AM »
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We're just trying to work with what Nelson has so generously shared.

Whole this forum is filled with "hard work" - yet no usable results are still visible. Work is not enough by itself - the thinking is sometimes also important. Work smarter not harder. If you're not smart enough, first watch the smarter people, like I do. I'm analyzing their videos all the time.

We have at least three replications already, but they all behave in unpredictable way and they oscillate more wildly, than the Mini Radiant Exciter at original videos.. For now they all also ignored my recommendation to replicate Nelson Rocha's prototype exactly. If nothing else, then the ferrite rod passing the toroid will block high frequencies propagating into circuit and it will make it more harmonic and less unpredictable.

In addition, Mr. Rocha pointed to interesting behavior, like the recharging of capacitors and another effects, which are visible at his videos. Instead of playing with neon lamp these effects can be tested for now.

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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2017, 01:25:43 AM »
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You're the only one doing any attacking here Zephir by your anonymous & libellous accusations.

I see, so that Nelson Rocha is whining, that he was ignored before years on behalf of Akula and ridiculed in previous threads. Now, when this thread is moderated for his attackers, he continues to whine, that he is still ridiculed at another webs and that he will still say nothing because of it. OK...

During this time his attackers are whining that Zephir accused them from attacking the inventors and disrupting the overunity research and that they will not "do replications" here anymore. Boys, get mature for moment.

I can understand that you all have some reasons, for which you don't want to cooperate smoothly  - but why to cover it with  accusations of grievances? This is not social club or senior house for retired loners - you're all wasting too much time at this forum for too little results.  What will happen, if one of thousands of threads here will get terminated because someone's feeling offended? Absolutely nothing - this forum stagnates for years already because new social platforms emerged and YouTube is full of way more interesting (and also way better documented) projects of people, who are willing to collaborate and share information without any social overhead.

Get real finally.

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Re: Re: Inventors and replicators - social aspects of overunity community
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2017, 01:30:48 AM »
and what did you accomplish by calling builders here Liars and frauds who purposely hide OU

and adding
 Zephir quote
OU is easy they hide it here all the time [the builders]

how do these lies help things?

you can continue to censor my question
or answer it ?

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Re: Re: Inventors and replicators - social aspects of overunity community
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2017, 01:33:34 AM »

During this time his attackers are whining that Zephir accused them from attacking the inventors and disrupting the overunity research. Boys, get mature for moment. 


Ok referring to yourself in the third person. That speaks volumes. You are an anonymous rude, abusive individual who does contributes nothing but noise. You really are wrecking this forum. I really hope Stefan bans you soon.

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Re: Inventors and replicators - social aspects of overunity community
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2017, 01:58:26 AM »
..and now you change the name of the thread are you trying to hide Nelson's work now?
« Last Edit: April 24, 2017, 04:09:58 AM by Jimboot »

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