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Author Topic: THE RANT ROOM  (Read 179838 times)

Sergh

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Re: THE RANT ROOM
« Reply #870 on: August 10, 2023, 09:46:25 AM »
Where ?
A message with links to patents does not oblige Wesley to respond. I found the patent in the Georgian public database, and I assumed that the patent would be of interest to Wesley and community.

Of course, you can read these patents and give your opinion. As you know, I'm busy with a slightly different direction. But everything is possible. "The truth is somewhere near."
https://patents.google.com/patent/GEP20146089B
https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2007008646A2
https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2115239C1/en
About autors GEP20146089B:
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In the second half of 2011, an initiative group at the Department of Microprocessor and Measuring Systems (headed by Z. Azmaifarashvili, members - M. Foladashvili, N. Meskhidze) created several versions of a device for wireless power transmission. The first laboratory sample of a device for wireless transmission of electricity, with which we transmitted electricity over a distance - a light gas-discharge luminescent power of 40 W, where the resonator drive unit was built on electronic vacuum tubes, and the power consumed by the device for transmitting electricity was 400 W, frequency 250 Hz. And the transmission distance is 2-3m.
After that, experimental studies were carried out and, at the personal expense of the initiative group, a simplified version of the wireless power transmission device was created, where the resonator-excitation unit was made on the basis of semiconductor transistors. This exhibit was presented at the "Educational Exhibition" held on February 23-26, 2012 at the initiative of Expo Georgia. At this exhibition, Merab Foladashvili, a member of the initiative group, demonstrated for the first time a device for wireless transmission of electricity. Distance between receiver and transmitter was 1.3 m. The input power of the transmitter was 5.1 watts. The frequency range was 150–200 kHz. This was followed by responses from various agencies and individuals (we have a positive review from Dr. Georgy Arabidze, a physicist working abroad). Along with the creation of the aforementioned devices, the initiative group also applied for an invention on behalf of the Technical University of Georgia.
We received a patent for an invention, which was issued by Sakpatent [5].
s. 119
https://gtu.ge/Science/research/pdf/2d.jafaridze_shida_grantebi_2015.pdf

kolbacict

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Re: THE RANT ROOM
« Reply #871 on: August 10, 2023, 08:42:33 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jeziPoJia6w
So,you didn't hear me.  My current consumption of the coil drops, and the amplitude of the oscillations increases.
Mechanical vibrations require energy. Air resistance and metal heating due to deformation.
Where does the extra energy come from ?   This is your Synchro1 first noticed.

Sergh

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Re: THE RANT ROOM
« Reply #872 on: August 11, 2023, 08:08:15 AM »
It has been written about this for a long time.

For example:

The initial efficiency of the device is 0.6. The device consumes a current of 1 ampere, the output amplitude is 8 volts.

Then you somehow improved the performance of the device. The efficiency of the device became 0.8.
The device consumes 0.8 amperes, the output amplitude is 10 volts.

Where does the extra energy come from? As usual from the outlet.

It is necessary to be guided by the correct measurements of energy at the input and output in real time.

lancaIV

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Re: THE RANT ROOM
« Reply #873 on: August 11, 2023, 12:18:24 PM »
It has been written about this for a long time.

For example:

The initial efficiency of the device is 0.6. The device consumes a current of 1 ampere, the output amplitude is 8 volts.

Then you somehow improved the performance of the device. The efficiency of the device became 0.8.
The device consumes 0.8 amperes, the output amplitude is 10 volts.

Where does the extra energy come from? As usual from the outlet.

It is necessary to be guided by the correct measurements of energy at the input and output in real time.
Which kind of improvement ?  Efficiency : 0,6 to 0,8
but before:  8 Volt x 1 Ampere  after : 10 Volt x 0,8 Ampere are (?) ....!


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Sergh

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Re: THE RANT ROOM
« Reply #874 on: August 11, 2023, 01:33:47 PM »
This is just for example.
The current at the input and the amplitude of something at the output.
This means that if the device was inefficient and then it was improved, then this does not necessarily result in more energy at the output than at the input.

lancaIV

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« Reply #875 on: August 11, 2023, 01:47:55 PM »
This is just for example.
The current at the input and the amplitude of something at the output.
This means that if the device was inefficient and then it was improved, then this does not necessarily result in more energy at the output than at the input.
Efficiency means ?

Richard /Dick Fradella example !
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=US&NR=2012256422A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20121011&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#

[0090]    Generator power and efficiency with wind turbine drive is computed below, for a representative example of the present invention, at maximum shaft speed, mid-speed, and minimum usable speed, using a few simplifying approximations. Shaft speed, power, and the other variables in the computations herebelow are exemplary, and not intended as limiting the present invention in any way. This will help explain FIG. 1 and FIG. 2 configuration operation, distinctions and improvements over widely used prior art generators:

    [0091]    Let maximum speed equal 1000 revolutions per minute (rpm), mid-speed equal 500 rpm, and minimum speed equal 100 rpm. Also, let maximum stator current Imax=10 amperes, and nominal VDC=100 volts. Further, let Q1-Q4 power MOSFET ON resistance Rdson=0.01 ohm, inductor L1-L4 series pair winding resistance RL=0.1 ohm. Also, stator winding resistance Rs=0.15 ohm, stator voltage Vmax=100 volts at 1000 rpm, and fly-back (free-wheeling) diode D1-D8 forward drop Vf=1-volt at 10 amp. These parameters are consistent with a test prototype, according to the present invention, developed to generate power from wind turbines.

    [0092]    At 1000 rpm, Vmax=100 volts, so PWM duty-cycle (Ton)/(Ton+Toff) is essentially zero. Therefore, losses=Imax<2>(RL+Rs)+2 VfImax=(10 amp)<2>(0.25 ohm)+(2 volt)(10 amp), amounting to 45 watts loss. Output power=(Imax)*(Vmax)=(Imax)*(VDC)=(10 amp)(100 volts)=1000 watts. So, generator efficiency at maximum speed and maximum power is about 95% for this example of generator and integrated electronics parameters.

 [0093]    At 500 rpm, Imax=(10 amp)/(4)=2.5 amps; and Vmax=(100 volts)*(0.5)=50 volts. So PWM duty-cycle=1⁄2. Average pulse power generated=(Imax)*(Vmax)=(Imax)*(VDC)/2=(2.5 amp)(50 volt)=125 watts. Losses to maintain inductor current=Imax<2>(RL+Rs+Ron)=(2.5 amp)<2>(0.26 ohm)=1.6 watts. Fly-back diode losses=2 Vf*Imax/2=(0.6 v)(2.5 amp)=1.5 watts. So total losses=3.1 watts. Therefore, mid-speed generator efficiency is about 97%.

 [0094]    At 100 rpm, Imax=(10 amp)/(100)=0.1 amp; and Vmax=(100 volts)/(10)=10-volts. So PWM duty-cycle= 9/10. Average pulse power generated=(Imax)*(Vmax)=(Imax)*(VDC)/10=(0.1 amp)(10 v)=1 watt. Losses to maintain stator and inductor current=Imax<2>(RL+Rs+2*Rdson)=(0.1 amp)<2>(0.27 ohm)=0.0027-watt. Fly-back diode losses=(2*Vf)*(Imax)/10=(0.6 v)(0.1 a)/5=0.012 watts. So total losses=0.015-watt. Thus, generator efficiency at low speed is about 98%.

Device nominal capacity full use efficiency ! inverse/cube law !
Above highest efficiency = lowest (uneconomical) conversion gain

We can see windgenerators with moving blades/rotor,consuming more energy than generating !
Triangulation : physical efficiency / technical efficiency / financial efficiency

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