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Offline Zephir

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Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2017, 08:05:40 PM »
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when your sig gen produces say 20Vpp @ 900KHz.. when you have a good core and everything's correct with 15KV+ on the core cap you should in the very least see 2V output with at least a few watts

At which input frequency? Which variable parameters your technology actually has? At such a high voltage and 900kHz it's not problem to waste way higher power at the small capacitor (at 200 pF its impedance will be just 1000 Ohm and current 15 A !). You'll need a whole radio transmitter station for to power such a device (15 kW HF generator) and such a device must be able to recycle ampere current at 1 MHz and 15 kV just for "few watts" of useful yield. I seriously doubt, you've such a generator.

What you're saying is rather close to behavior of Floyd Sweet (1, 2, 3) and Manelas Device. They don't work on electrogravitic principle, though. They allegedly require thorough conditioning of ferrite billets with high voltage pulses and barium ferrite must be allegedly used for it - which is conductive with compare to strontium ferrite. The symptomatic is, all crucial details of technology are missing - the lack of their description isn't problem of government, but greedy inventors.

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Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2017, 11:29:17 PM »
Theoretical researcher, 

You haven't seen the powers that be operate.

When you have your phone take pictures of your2,handed person doing something else appear on your phone you will reach a level of higher understanding, like I have.

Your design is perhaps over unity, and a shitty design that has nothing to do with TPU

Elon Musk already has better, he would not even have one of his secretaries respond.

Its time to humble yourself, and step down if your high horse, nobody is gonna pull a quick one over here, TK does not even need to respond he sees already your elementary problem problem.

A good overunity device is capable of at least a few kW.




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Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2017, 02:29:11 AM »
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You haven't seen the powers that be operate... Your design is perhaps over unity.. blah blah...

In brief, the conflict of two people, who just don't want to cooperate here at public. Naive inventor with exaggerated expectations and pathoskeptic troll, whose only meaning of life is to denounce the people, who show just a bit of weakness. Now you can see, why the accidental findings have no chance to resurface at wider scale. It begins and ends with inability of people to cooperate, once some profit is at stake.

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you MUST first test your entire setup in Spice
If yes, why not to post / link Spice file here?

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Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2017, 07:00:51 AM »
Provide spice files...

WTF, how can unqualified people be a danger I'd provided with spice files..

Never mind Elon Musk, its not happening

Release everything and ask for help.

You are either full independant or full Dependant to these forums. This in between humanitarian who wants us to "copy your words" yet its all closed group secrecy is the kind of stinkiness I enjoy. You are quite the funny guy, so what was it again an expensive HV apparatus for a few watts ? Boy o boy...

If you can't make me a toaster running technology you are not meeting my needs. I don't have desire for something with ROI  of 20 years few watts as a time and super HV.


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Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2017, 07:56:37 AM »
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If you can't make me a toaster running technology you are not meeting my needs. I don't have desire for something with ROI  of 20 years few watts as a time and super HV.

Your needs, desires and fantasies interest no one here.  Why they should do?

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Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
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Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2017, 08:17:21 AM »
Your needs, desires and fantasies interest no one here.  Why they should do?
Ah it's Eric Morecambe and Ernie Wise a double act ! but this isn't 'opportunity knocks'.

'Show time', cut the 'gags' and show us something your working on a device or a schematic of your own.

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Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2017, 09:37:35 AM »
Ah it's Eric Morecambe and Ernie Wise a double act ! but this isn't 'opportunity knocks'.
LOL Seriously guys. TR has told you what he is prepared to do and that's it. If you want to contact him privately do so but please don't clutter with a flame war. Thanks.

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Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2017, 03:30:40 PM »
Michael Faraday was once asked of what use is his new induction discovery, and I believe he replied "of what use is a newborn baby?"

Point being, the demonstration of an anomalous effect can be very important, so please have the patience to give it a chance and allow the theme to develop.

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p.s. yes that quip was also attributed to Franklin and others.

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Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2017, 05:52:58 PM »
What I know is, the combination of ferrite block and capacitor has been used for both antigravity, both overunity long time. Except that at the case of antigravity the effect is weak, when the native ferromagnetism and/or capacitance of ferrite gets utilized, so that the researchers embed ceramic capacitor into a magnetic circuit of coil (so-called Mach thruster - see bellow). Inside the coil the magnetic field can get stronger than inside permanent magnet and ceramic capacitor also exhibits much higher permittivity than the ferrite, so that stronger field can be achieved in it too at lower voltage and energy lost. As far I know, such a device weren't tested for overunity, but their thrust should be quite strong, reproducible and it shouldn't depend on location with compare to @Theoretical_Research device.

What @Theoretical_Research is proposing here is merely a Floyd Sweet (1, 2, 3) / Ahern-Manelase effect. It requires to use special conductive ferrites conditioned with high voltage pulses into anapole configuration at which the ferrite repulses magnetized bodies. Which is pretty cool effect by itself (see bellow) - but more difficult to replicate. As far I know, such a devices weren't tested for inertial-less thrust - but they're supposed to generate overunity of high COP.

The third group of devices didn't utilize permanent magnet, but normal soft ferrite or air-cored coil, which also created high voltage gradient across core, preferably under formation of glow discharge (Stoyan Sarg devices and others). These devices were claimed to exhibit both thrust, both overunity effects.

So that there is definitely lotta interesting effects to replicate and research, but we have no chance to advance it at public forum within environment of frog&mice battles between overly secretive researchers and overly dismissive pathoskeptics because of synergy of both attitudes: the interesting information cannot spread into outside. Please keep it on mind if you want to continue in effective discussion here.

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Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2017, 05:56:17 PM »
This device uses the same effect, I think.

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Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2017, 06:34:53 PM »
The Testatika/Innova Tech device could utilize it too, just with different geometry of coil and capacitor (cylindrical). After all, Don Smith's / Kapanadze devices also contain axial ground conductor inside the coil, so that they can also serve as a capacitor/coil combination too.

In my theory the overunity could be achieved, once we modulate the impedance of coil or capacitor during pulses in such a way, that the energy required for its charging will get lower, than for its discharge. In general, within Tesla coils both fields may be present under resonance, because these coils exhibit both capacity, both inductance distributed along their winding - so they could generate overunity on its very own under this condition.

This explanation looks simple enough - except that we don't know the mechanism, in which the electric field could affect the impedance of air core coil and/vice versa, how the susceptibility of ferrite should be affected with electric field. I presume, that the electrons are propagating along surface of coil in evanescent waves at high frequencies due to skin-effect (principle of single wire transfer). The electric field inside the coil forces them to propagate at larger or smaller distance from coil wire, which would affect the speed of their propagation and as such the impedance of coil itself. This is because the speed of charge propagation near conductor becomes the slower, the closer this conductor it gets, because within conductors the electrons and their charge waves actually propagate quite slowly (refraction index of metals is high in general).

Alternatively the F.Sweet's effect points to option, that at the presence of strong electric field within ferromagnet its domains may get polarized in such a way, they will lose their ability to follow changes of magnetic field. In this case the ferrite coil will lose magnetic susceptibility and impedance during high voltage polarization in similar way, like the air core coil. Occasionally we can create an artificial Bloch domains (structured magnet) within polarized material in this way (structured magnets can keep&levitate magnetized body at distance). We can indeed continue in attempts for blind replication of all these devices in trial&errors way - but IMO it would be more effective to attempt for identification and demonstration of their principles first in a standard conscious scientific way: from theory to experiment, which could falsify it.

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Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2017, 09:21:25 PM »
I hate spending time posting at forums. For anyone who works without my guidance trying to see the free energy effect, you MUST first test your entire setup in spice. There are a lot of gotchas. For example, signal gen leakage signal is out of phase with the voltage from the free energy effect. So if your sig gen produces say 20Vpp @ 900KHz, which causes a 2mV leakage signal, and the FE effect is 0.4mV, then you're not going to see much change when rotating the device relative to earth, about 50uV. That's why you need my guidance or you need to seriously know what you're doing and spend a lot of time thinking it out. As for self-runners, when you have a good core and everything's correct with 15KV+ on the core cap you should in the very least see 2V output with at least a few watts.

Sorry but I hope this is my last post in this thread. I've seen numerous skeptics such as Tensil (spelling) cry about nobody offering to prove this technology. So here's the offer. If he doesn't work via PMs or requires videos and such to see if I'm legit, then he can carry on with his stuff. :)

Steven Mark.....how you doing buddy. I know its you. Dont pretend its not you. anyways I know the secret behind your device. If you really want to make some money...get in touch with me...PM me asap.

Forget about taking it to Elon Musk, spaceX or google etc... you cant do it yourself direct beccause

1) the moment they run a detailed background check on you....they will find out about your TPU claims you made in the 90s and the videos.

2) If you use a front man or partner, trust me they will find out its really you thats behind it and both of you will be ending up going to jail for misrepresenting inventions   also the load can only be resistive for demo purposes as it is high current RF....not suitable for plugging in 120vac devices.

3) Again your background...you already made some money of this tech...If you get greedy again and take this to billionaire Elon Musk with a third party or some other frontman / company believe me you will end up in jail so quick, it will make your headspin.

Steven If you are serious about making money or bringing the tech out...PM me.  no alter egos.  I sent you a PM. people this is SM even if he says he is not.  ;)
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Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2017, 09:30:50 PM »
Zephir said:

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"but IMO it would be more effective to attempt for identification and demonstration of their principles first in a standard conscious scientific way: from theory to experiment, which could falsify it".

I totally agree with this statement and a good deal of what Zephir has posted.

Nevertheless, if someone has stumbled onto an effect but cannot explain it, that is a good place to start to develop a hypothesis and then test the hypothesis a number of ways before we can even begin to assign it a theory.

Less noise and more science is a good thing!

The hypothesis (by TR) is that gravity is flowing towards the earth at 11,000 km/s. If true, there must be a number of ways to test this, and certainly a device which is position sensitive when shielded from magnetic fields or that loses weight when some of this flow is diverted would be good starting points.

Let's give it a chance and see how it develops. Meanwhile we can hypothesize and experiment.

KehYo77
  In your drawing, if I understand, you are putting the HV AC output of the step up RF transformer (aka Tesla Coil) onto the capacitor plates. It is not being rectified to DC before application correct? Do you have any ideas about how this device is started and tested for effects?

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Re: Witness the Free Energy effect
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2017, 10:03:10 PM »
At which input frequency? Which variable parameters your technology actually has? At such a high voltage and 900kHz it's not problem to waste way higher power at the small capacitor (at 200 pF its impedance will be just 1000 Ohm and current 15 A !). You'll need a whole radio transmitter station for to power such a device (15 kW HF generator) and such a device must be able to recycle ampere current at 1 MHz and 15 kV just for "few watts" of useful yield. I seriously doubt, you've such a generator.

What you're saying is rather close to behavior of Floyd Sweet (1, 2, 3) and Manelas Device. They don't work on electrogravitic principle, though. They allegedly require thorough conditioning of ferrite billets with high voltage pulses and barium ferrite must be allegedly used for it - which is conductive with compare to strontium ferrite. The symptomatic is, all crucial details of technology are missing - the lack of their description isn't problem of government, but greedy inventors.
It's closer to 20pF. Remember that capacitance is lossless reactance. A real cap has some loss. If you have a cap that has 1mOhm at say 1MHz then you have good cab. Good job. Remember that V=I*R, Rcap=1/(2*pi*f*C), so @1MHz at resonance to produce 15KV on the cap requires current to be 15e+3V/(1/(2*pi*1e+6Hz*20e-12F)) = 1.9 amps,  and the cap power loss is I^2*R = 3.6mW (0.0036 watts).


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« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2017, 12:04:24 AM »
I'm aware, that such a power is reactive only and it doesn't generate heat at capacitor. But it still must be somehow produced with generator. The current 1,9 A/1MHz requires common induction heater, which you can buy at EBay. But its output voltage will be just few dozens of volts and power in kilowatt range. Once you want to get 15.000 kV, then you're suddenly dealing with quite different technology requirements: you'll need meter-sized vacuum tubes for voltage generation and huge transformers for its amplification and you're dealing with megawatt radio-station. You'll need a swimming pool for its cooling (experimentally tested)

Ferrites also have high ESR: even the best mica capacitor has dissipation factor ~ .001, which means hundreds of watts will be wasted on it. Once you'll use ferrite, you should consider kilowatts of ESR loses - and you'll immediately melt your poor ferrite diathermically. And at this point you're telling me, that you'll be able to recuperate few watts of free energy from this arrangement via electrogravity?

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