Cookies-law

Cookies help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
http://www.overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please leave this website now. Many thanks for your understanding.
Amazon Warehouse Deals ! Now even more Deep Discounts ! Check out these great prices on slightly used or just opened once only items.I always buy my gadgets via these great Warehouse deals ! Highly recommended ! Many thanks for supporting OverUnity.com this way.

User Menu

FireMatch

FireMatch

CCKnife

CCKnife

Poplamp

poplamp

CCTool

CCTool

LEDTVforSale

Magpi Magazine

Magpi Magazine Free Rasberry Pi Magazine

Battery Recondition

Battery Recondition

OverUnity Book

overunity principles book

Arduino

Ultracaps

YT Subscribe

movieclipsfree

movie clips free

Gravity Machines

Tesla-Ebook

Magnet Secrets

Lindemann Video

Navigation

Products

Statistics


  • *Total Posts: 486676
  • *Total Topics: 14315
  • *Online Today: 44
  • *Most Online: 103
(December 19, 2006, 11:27:19 PM)
  • *Users: 6
  • *Guests: 210
  • *Total: 216

Facebook

Author Topic: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome  (Read 5089 times)

Offline h20power

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 269
Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #45 on: April 16, 2017, 08:30:19 PM »
I don't want to moderate builders - but to protect readers and posters seriously interested about overunity research from verbose clueless trolls, who are systematically polluting and diluting this forum with posts oriented to individual people instead of facts. The fact you're doing experiments doesn't mean, you cannot be clueless regarding overunity in similar way, like some very last troll here. After all, mainstream scientists are doing experiments all the time - does it qualify them for research of overunity?


With this post I am going to totally disagree with you as the primary problem with forums like this is people don't make use of the scientific method. The scientific method demands that experiments be performed in the real world and not just in someone's head. One must observed the experiments to be able to see what works and what does not as after all good observations is good science. This is the primary reason why most people choose to dislike me as I simply will not listen to anyone that doesn't follow the scientific method. The rise of these arm chair scientist that never make it to the lab to perform real world experiments have zero voice in my world as they haven't been there and they haven't done that. I understand full well that it is ego and pride that drive people to want to be heard even though they haven't performed even one single experiment on the topic at hand.
It always makes me laugh when someone tries to tell me what I am seeing in my experiments when they have performed none. They don't have a properly made cell, no voltage intensifier circuit, and no pulsing circuit, plus any of the proper measuring equipment to be able to see what is taking place with their experiments it they have ever gotten that far. I have seen people claiming to be putting 50kv to their exciter arrays but don't have a differential probe from which to measure any voltage in these isolated circuits. They get real mad when I call them on it but I do so for good reason as if they are getting 50kv to their exciter arrays and it isn't working then Meyer's statement of the working voltages for an exciter array being between 10-20kv is bogus as they are some 30kv over what is stated to be the working voltages for this technology. So, someone's telling a tall tale, yes? I have to check these people as if they go unchecked they work toward preventing anyone from ever being able to solve this technology.
How can someone honestly say Meyer's technology doesn't work if they haven't applied 10-20kv to an exciter array built to Meyer's specifications? Thus anyone that makes the claim Meyer's technology doesn't work and they haven't placed a high voltage potential difference on the plates of an exciter array built to Meyer's specifications is a straight out liar. I don't care who is making the claim that the technology doesn't work for if they haven't reach this stated working conditions experimentally to see if it will or will not work then they have no grounds for their claims that the technology doesn't work.


I remember before I actually showed the world high voltages actually being applied to an exciter array people were saying it was impossible to do such a thing because they couldn't do it. If I remember correctly the highest voltage being shown applied to an exciter array prior that event was no more than 400 volts and the vast majority of people were only getting between 5-12 volts from their voltage intensifier circuits being applied to their exciter array. Then I come along and show between 3.4- 4.2kv being applied to an exciter array with all the right tools for the measuring those voltages and the event was recorded for the record. I did the impossible that day and the backlash of people rising up against me was sickening. People still thought it was impossible and went out of their way to prove that I had somehow cheated and wasn't applying those voltages to the exciter array. Each time I would improve upon my work and show even higher voltages being applied to the exciter array their anger towards me for doing so would increase.
These people's anger towards me was from pure jealousy and envy in that I was doing something they said was impossible or something that they themselves couldn't do. I mean just look at the stupid comments by this pomodoro guy stating that I have no gas production. Well, here is a news flash. Even though I am getting higher voltages than anyone else working on this technology I still haven't reached Meyer's stated working conditions for this technology being between 10-20kv being applied to an exciter array with ten resonant cavities wired in series. So, the truth be told I don't even know if it will work or not but I can't say that it doesn't until I actually reach these working condition voltages Meyer stated will get this technology working properly. But having actually reached 9.4kv being applied to an exciter array shows that I am the closest thus far to being able to prove if it works or not aren't I? Plus the science I uncovered that is behind this technology shows very clearly that if I manage to reach these voltages the water molecules will be broken down by way of ionization for it is already taking place in nature each and every day on this planet someplace. Even the very plants that we look at on a daily basis are breaking the bonds of the water molecules in this manor. Thus your statement that basically states that someone not performing any experiments word should trump the word of those that are performing the experiments is a false statement.


So, why do any of you reading all of this think so many people are upset at me for? Just what is it that I have done to them to warrant such poor treatment from them? Now I already know most of the answers to these questions but would like you to now show your answer to these questions.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy


Offline Zephir

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 380
    • Reddit about Aether Wave Theory
Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #46 on: April 16, 2017, 08:35:05 PM »
Quote
I am going to totally disagree with you as the primary problem with forums like this is people don't make use of the scientific method... The scientific method demands that experiments be performed in the real world and not just in someone's head.

This is just what I want to learn people here: the scientific method based on falsification of theories. But you didn't study the scientific method carefully enough: the experiments are indeed inseparable part of scientific method, but they must be planned and carried out in specific way: i.e. for falsification of theories. The true scientist always does the experiments, yes - but he does them in organized way in cognitive cycles (see bellow).

First you should have some idea, what do you want to get and how to get it - just after then you should start with tinkering and with experimentation. Opposite trial&error based approach may occasionally work too - but it's not scientific method already. Today you can find something interesting just by pure accident - and frankly, human life becomes too short for such a blind attitude, because most of things, which could be invented with random testing ala Edison have been already invented.

From this reason I cannot also appreciate the credit of people, who are doing experiments cluelessly or who just blindly imitate others, supposedly more successful ones. I already presented here multiple strategies, how to increase the probability of finding of gold at places, which were thoroughly outmined and exhausted already.


Offline h20power

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 269
Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #47 on: April 17, 2017, 03:27:08 AM »
(http://elpasok-12scienceteachers.weebly.com/uploads/3/1/9/5/31957781/132644.jpg?502)


This is the scientific method. How it works takes a lot of time, money, and effort to follow it correctly. Asking the question sometimes is easy, but as Meyer always pointed out "One must ask the right question." My question(s) was this; Is it possible that these people, since more than just Meyer did something like this, figured out a method of breaking down the water molecules outside of Dr. Faraday's electrolysis method?
Research on what do we already know is a part most people totally fail at with this technology. My question; "Is there something taking place in nature that is already doing this?" I found two things in nature that are already doing this each and everyday on this planet and even shared those findings with the group.
I then formed a Hypothesis based on what I found and read in the patents on the requirements necessary to make this technology work found in the patents which stated that the working conditions for this technology is for each resonant cavity a minimum of 1000 volts of potential difference must be applied before the process of getting the atoms that make up the water molecules, IE, hydrogen and oxygen atoms start to eject their electrons takes place and/or starts to happen.


Now comes the truly hard part getting things ready for testing. You will need a lot of test equipment and things must be built correctly to a very high degree of accuracy. You will need to get a differential probe capable of withstanding these voltages, an oscilloscope, a power supply that provides a variable DC voltage output that is designed for pulsing systems, and learn by way of trial and error how to go about building the pulsing circuit, voltage intensifier circuit, and the exciter array. Thanks to Don Gable we have the spec's of the resonant cavities Meyer used as well as some of the specs of the transformer and pulsing circuit. But knowing all of this doesn't teach one how to actually pulse it or just how the waveform should actually look. For this one must be able to read and discern just what they are reading and seeing in all of his patents and lecture videos. Most that I have seen working on this part of the technology failed at this as they just took to looking at the pictures and never actually bothered to read the contents of the patents or they simply could not understand just what it was there where reading take your pick as one of the two things happened.
People soon found out that building an exciter array properly cost a lot of money and they tried to take short cuts and/or make changes to a technology they didn't fully understand yet. But not only that they were looking for the wrong waveform on their oscilloscopes as they only looked at the photos found in the patents and most of them showed a waveform with a positive only voltage potential. If they only took the time to actually read the words it states very clearly that there is to be a positive and negative voltage of equal intensity. Now I have had entire threads telling people that I am wrong about how the waveform is actually supposed to look and when I took them by the hand and showed them just where in the patents did it say there was to be a positive and negative voltage they weren't all that happy about being proven to be wrong about their assumptions about this technology.
In fact building any of this technology will prove to be on the costly side if it is to be built properly as they will be "One-offs," which is the most costly way to go about making anything. I built and tested many different designs of exciter array, circuits, and VIC transformers and the cost of doing this was very high, but the scientific method demanded that I do things the right way or give up. In all of the things I built the VIC transformer is the hardest to gain an understanding of as many of them will have to be built based on trial and error of the results each different transformer will reveal when tested on the exciter array.


If you build the exciter array that has copper wire or some other metal other than 304/316 SS in direct contact with the water it is doomed to fail as the copper ions will readily go into the water bath which will make the water conductive. If there is a way for the exciter array to reach a ground state it will take it as remember this is to be an isolated system and great care must be taken to ensure it remains an isolated circuit so any circulation pumps that have metal in direct contact with the water will provide a ground path for the isolated circuit to flow in, thus no charging of the resonant cavities will take place. If you don't get an differential probe again the ground of the oscilloscope will provide a path to ground for the isolated circuit to take and it will fail to charge up the resonant cavities.


As you can see most people fail at this due to not thinking just how to actually go about testing this technology out properly. They don't know how it is supposed to be pulsed, they don't know what the waveform is actually supposed to look like and the list of things that they do wrong are far too many for me to want to type out here and now. Most people in these forums that attempt to solve this technology simply put are not up to the task at hand mentally, physically, and financially. Mentally most people I see working on this technology aren't prepared to fail and learn from those failures as they missed the part of the scientific method that states what is expected that this technology do experimentally. I have seen them build one transformer after another completely the same and yet expect different results from each of those transformers they built. Now that is the very definition of insanity but these are the people that I have had to deal with in these Open Source forums. So, naturally I gave up on these people as they simply aren't all there mentally.
You see we already have the working conditions for this technology and thus the question is when I reached this voltages what will actually happen? Right now no one, not even me, can answer this question experimentally. But as I stated these mentally unstable people don't handle failure all that well. They don't have the capacity to sit and read and the mental training to understand what they are reading. Like children they jump to the picture section of the patents and expect they will gain all they need to know from just looking at the pictures. They form clicks with other like minded people and move to push anyone's views that do not agree with theirs out of the forums. Ask them to perform real world experiments and they turn around and tell you that they don't need to. Asked them to make use of the scientific method and they tell you to shove that method where the sun doesn't shine. Show them results that they as a group have concluded are impossible to be possible and they again push to have you removed from the forums. I am one of those whom they have pushed out of their forums many times as I showed them what they collectively deemed impossible to be possible and they don't take kindly to anyone that proves their theories to be factually incorrect. Thus that interview of me taken at the 2013 Global BEM was a hefty slap in the face for them as here was someone actually placing a high voltage potential difference directly to a container filled with water which they had collectively concluded was impossible and openly stated Meyer must have been lying about placing such high voltages to the water molecules.


Most of them can't conceive that the scientific method is just a tool designed to help provide answers to things that are unknown to us. Most of the love to ask the question but hate to have to be the one that has to answer those questions. They want things handed to them on a silver platter completely free of charge and will at times even demand that someone like me build what we have built for them for free and ship it too them for free. They know nothing of the cost involved and when told honestly about the cost can't imagine how the monies got spent as they are also totally lacking in the ability to imagine things in context. How much does an a good differential probe cost? How much does a good power supply cost? Will I run into any minimum buys or minimum makes? They have no idea as they never leave the drawing board to actually move towards building anything. They just sit and type away on their keyboards expecting that that alone will solve these types of disruptive technologies. They can't tell the difference between an opinion and a theory. And most importantly they never asked the right questions as in the patents we all were given the working conditions for this technology but since they never read that they assume there is no question like this that needs to be solved experimentally. Sadly forums like these are filled with people like this that operate on a level of diminished capacity mentally each and everyday of their lives without getting the help they need to correct their mental problems.

Offline forest

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3482
Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #48 on: April 17, 2017, 09:51:39 AM »
I do believe it is not about breaking the water molecules. There was two guys also who did the same : one was Daniel Dingel and the second one is still alive , both were from Philippines.
Meyer could just convert water into pure gas state without breaking much molecules.



1 mole of water in liquid state occupy 0,018 dm3
1 mole of ideal gas occupy 22,4 dm3
it's 1244  more space, almost like a  steam. So it can be called cold steam.


I have nothing more to say, I'm not much interested in this technology so far.






Offline h20power

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 269
Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #49 on: April 17, 2017, 11:12:46 AM »
I do believe it is not about breaking the water molecules. There was two guys also who did the same : one was Daniel Dingel and the second one is still alive , both were from Philippines.
Meyer could just convert water into pure gas state without breaking much molecules.



1 mole of water in liquid state occupy 0,018 dm3
1 mole of ideal gas occupy 22,4 dm3
it's 1244  more space, almost like a  steam. So it can be called cold steam.


I have nothing more to say, I'm not much interested in this technology so far.


Just so you know I use to speak with Dr. Dingle prior to his death. He told me back then I was on the right track and to keep up the good work. In fact I have looked over practically each and every inventor's work dealing with this water for fuel technology and have found the common part to all of them except the Joe Cell one as it works quite differently than the other technologies do.


I posted the science behind the patents on this forum already and would suggest that you take a look at it as my findings are from how nature goes about breaking the bonds of the water molecules which are far more efficient than Dr. Faraday's electrolysis method. Those pdf files are as far as I am willing to go on aiding people to understand this technology.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #49 on: April 17, 2017, 11:12:46 AM »
Sponsored links:




Offline Zephir

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 380
    • Reddit about Aether Wave Theory
Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #50 on: April 17, 2017, 04:02:24 PM »
Nearly all devices involving water were reported with overunity, if we order them by energy density scale:

1) free flow wheel (Bhaskara)
2) bubble buoyancy generator (GAIA ROSCH and older ones)
3) cavitation heaters
4) water combustion engine (Meyer)
5) dozen kHz water membrane generator
6) 13.56 MHz radiowaves (Roychowdhury, Kanzius)
7) 2.5 GHz microwaves (Vaks, Zographos)
8 ) 0.6 - 200 MHz discharge (Energoniva)
9) low voltage/high current discharge (Brilliant Light)
10) plasma electrolysis (Mizuno, Bazhutov, etc.)


If these devices all work at least under specific circumstances, then there is low probability, that the very same mechanism will be involved at all these cases. I can see some similarity between negentropic behavior of magnetic domains in ferrite OU devices and small bubbles (oversaturation, hysteresis and size dependence).
« Last Edit: April 17, 2017, 06:14:24 PM by Zephir »

Offline ARMCORTEX

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 612
Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #51 on: April 17, 2017, 05:55:06 PM »
H2Opower,

You have been posting the truth about HV electrolysis now for 7 years and complaining how nobody gives a shit. You say your methods need money, but you say you spent 30k already. How expensive does a stainless tube cell and coil need to get before you have what you need, confirm or deny and move on. Its not about moderators or your greedy backstabbing partners...If you had worthwhile results those small problems would be far behind you. The fact that you keep throwing this around and play the victim shows that you are weak and emotional type researcher.

So convicted fraudster, conman and manipulator Dingle said you were on the right track? Congrats...

Seriously are you this dumb? I knew you were dumb but I am surprised now.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #51 on: April 17, 2017, 05:55:06 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline ramset

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5929
Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #52 on: April 18, 2017, 03:54:38 AM »
Arm
you don't have a dog in this hunt, typing and Simulating [what you do] is not the same as real time experimenting..... to follow a path or theory as complicated as Ed's path.
you have no frame of reference for this [time and costs]? so you mock it ?

 Ed,
as the TinMan mentioned.. HV electrolysis  is always on the menu somewhere.

wishing you success , no doubt you have put the work in ,and no doubt even those you feel
may not be in your corner ..
are still hoping your work is successful  .

respectfully
Chet K
PS
to Zephir
whats this Simulating program for OU concepts ?

a Joke or serious ??

also a discussion board which Zephir has asked the Boss to start for him here
http://overunity.com/17237/aether-wave-theory-as-an-emergent-model-of-observable-reality/msg504609/#new









Offline ARMCORTEX

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 612
Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #53 on: April 18, 2017, 06:22:28 AM »
This beef is between me and H2Opower, step aside.

This man challenged me on a forum 7 years ago, now he must pay.

He tried to belittle the importance of Stephen Meyers, that cannot go unpunished.

Offline Zephir

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 380
    • Reddit about Aether Wave Theory
Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #54 on: April 18, 2017, 08:01:39 AM »
Quote
This beef is between me and H2Opower, step aside.

This forum isn't dedicated for punishing anyone here.
Just use PM for solving your private issues with another users. It's designed for it.

Quote
This man challenged me on a forum 7 years ago, now he must pay

How to spot a psychopath: he never forgets his grievance...

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #54 on: April 18, 2017, 08:01:39 AM »
Sponsored links:




Offline h20power

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 269
Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #55 on: April 18, 2017, 08:42:51 AM »
Thanks Ramset as what you said is truly what stand up men say. But as I wrote these people are not playing with a full deck of cards, they'er sick, and they need mental help. They are insane and their method of experimentation proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt. Like this Arm guy, zero experiments but all the answers, and all he needs is $6000 to make it all happen. They do nothing and after all these years since my time on Ionizationx before I got banned the first time this sick man still has absolutely nothing to show for over 7-8 years of work. No prototype, no high voltage, not even a properly built cell, transformer, or driving circuit, nope people like him have nothing at all but a sick mind that needs professional help as they are sick.


When I spoke with Dr. Dingle I took a different tact in that I didn't ask him for anything and instead told him what I had figured out about this water for fuel technology at that time in my research. It took him by surprise and he opened up to me just a little bit even offered me a ride in his car when I went to the Philippines in 2010. I really enjoyed the talks we had together as he explained how it all began for him to me. My wife had to translate for me at times as I couldn't understand him for his ascent was on the heavy side. He told me many interesting stories about his life and I am just glad to have had a chance to know such a wonderful man whom only wanted to better the lives of his people.


I really wont respond to this Arm guy again as I recognize he needs professional help as it's clear he ain't all there. I'd be willing to bet if I didn't have all this military training he's the type of person that would make an attempt on my life just so he can save face in front of people that truly despise him. He performs all of his experiments in his head and probably even makes experimental observations never leaving the seat of his chair or taking his hands off of his keyboard. Nope he just sits in front of his computer trying to dream up new and inventive ways to get rich even if it means he has to scam a few rich guys to do it. I truly feel sorry for him as 7-8 years is a long time to hold a grudge on just a theory that has gone unproven by him. All he truly has is a mind that is in the need of professional help.


When he hears that I actually did what some people thought was impossible, IE, actually putting a high voltage potential difference directly to a cell filled with water he gets all bent out of shape instead of happy that at least someone is making actual progress in the right direction according to Meyer's own statements of the actual working conditions for this technology. But I thank you Ramset for your kind words of support as they come at a time when all the hacks seem to be gunning for me to fail as they are throwing in the towel on this technology and want no one left behind that will contradict anything they have left behind. This technology is both simple and complex at the same time as some of its concepts are new to the world of science and others are old and well known. You don't have to worry about me as I truly don't pay people like him any mind as I understand their minds are operating with diminished capacities probably due to something in the water or being dropped on their heads when they were babies.


I'll keep at it as I can see the light at the end of the tunnel now, plus I have come too far to turn back now. So many R&D test under my belt do I have now in learning how to get the voltages up with these VIC transformers. So many failed experimental trials but with each and every failure I learned more about this technology as I kept asking and answering questions by way of actual hands on experimentation just as the scientific method has us to do. I can be wrong 1000 plus times but I only have to be right once.
Again thanks for the support as it is much appreciated.

Offline pomodoro

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 677
Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #56 on: April 18, 2017, 03:04:20 PM »
This beef is between me and H2Opower, step aside.

This man challenged me on a forum 7 years ago, now he must pay.

He tried to belittle the importance of Stephen Meyers, that cannot go unpunished.


You, Sir, are either crazy, or know how to dish out some fn  good dark humor.


Offline h20power

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 269
Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #57 on: April 18, 2017, 05:43:15 PM »

You, Sir, are either crazy, or know how to dish out some fn  good dark humor.


Pomodoro I don't think he is all there as if his theories where heading in the right direction he'd be willing to invest his monies on himself instead of openly desiring to use other peoples money. My question to him would be, "If you aren't willing to invest in yourself why should others be willing to invest in you?"


As for you Pomodoro I hope you understand my comments above as I just wanted to let you know I haven't reached Meyer's stated working conditions for this technology yet as I am still failing to learn. But with each failure I learn more about this technology. I do understand that it works by way of "Ionization" which gives me something that we do understand, like an air ionizer, to compare it too. I understand that if I take an air ionizer and don't provide enough voltage to it too reach the ionization threshold for the oxygen atoms that make up the oxygen molecules the device will not produce any ozone. So, if I don't reach Meyer's stated voltages that this technology works at then I shouldn't expect any gas production and my experiments do in fact show this to be the case right now.


If I swing the waveform out of resonance it will start to produce some gas but when I put it back in resonance the gas production stops as there is no more current flowing through the water bath. At 9.4kv the current flowing through the water bath was just 0.6 mA. I let it run for two days straight taking temperature readings and I found out that the transformer will get a bit warm even hot but the exciter array will just follow the temperatures of the day in these conditions. Since I didn't reach Meyer's stated working conditions for this technology it was back to the drawing board for me as clearly I wasn't doing something right for I wasn't reaching the correct voltages. I understand that not until I reach these voltages can I say and/or know if Meyer was telling the truth or not. Based on my experiments I can say that one can place a high voltage potential to the water molecules with Meyer's voltage intensifier circuit but beyond that I can say one way or the other if the technology truly works or not. It would seem Meyer was telling the truth thus far but since I haven't reached those voltages he states are to be the working conditions for this technology I simply don't know for sure if this technology will work or not as I am a bit far off from Meyer's stated maximum voltage of 20kv being placed on the exciter array. But from what I have seen I believe him but to be sure that he is telling the truth I just have to reach those stated working condition voltages for this technology. We all do as until one of us actually reaches these voltage we haven't a pot or a window to throw it out of concerning if this technology works or not.


Based on the science I have uncovered about this technology I believe it will work but if I fail to reach these voltages I hope someone out their will figure out what I failed too do to reach those high voltage potentials being applied to the water molecules. Like I said I can be wrong a 1000 plus times but I only need to be right once and this holds true for each and everyone of us working on this technology.

Offline Grumage

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 963
Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #58 on: April 18, 2017, 08:30:37 PM »
Dear h20power.

May I ask a simple question?

I spent nigh on 2 decades with the supply industry (UK) involved with HV distribution. Our voltages were 33 and 11 KV.

Is it the frequencies that are causing your problems? All our transformers and switchgear worked faultlessly using Transformer oil as an insulant, obviously at 50 HZ.

Kind regards, Graham.


Online Dog-One

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 732
Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #59 on: April 18, 2017, 09:57:05 PM »
Using logic (the basis of the scientific method as I understand it), we have some knowns and unknowns.

Right now Ed is able to achieve a 9400 volt potential difference across his resonant cavity (10 cells).  We
think something in excess of 10000 volts is necessary--1000 volts per cell.

Without changing anything else but the cell count, what happens when you apply the VIC across nine cells?

What happens when you apply the VIC across eleven cells?

These two tests are what I would consider testable experiments.  My hypothesis is the voltage should drop
in both cases because ten cells are as close to tuned to the VIC as is currently possible.  My curiosity comes
into play if for either one of the two tests above, my hypothesis is incorrect.  If voltage goes up with one
more cell or one less cell, then we know with pretty good assurance the VIC is not tuned where we thought
it actually was.  The answer to this takes us to another step--do we modify the VIC or do we instead,
modify the dimensions of the cells in the exciter array.

The third option is what happens if the voltage goes higher with nine cells and eleven cells?  Indicating
that ten cells is actually the poorest tuned arrangement.


Anyway, if what I have just laid out is not the principal of the scientific method, then I'm at a loss as
to what this method actually is.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #59 on: April 18, 2017, 09:57:05 PM »

 

Share this topic to your favourite Social and Bookmark site

Please SHARE this topic at: