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Offline ramset

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A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« on: April 13, 2017, 12:23:52 AM »
Gentlemen
and maybe one lady ??[not sure no offence]

Here we have a community of many builders and researches ,a Global community ,we always have excitement and all manner of Diverse opinions.

member Zephir has not fallen short in the excitement /confrontation department.... it is good to have opinions.

Honestly I remember  Zephir's first post here and was razzeled and dazzeled
Impressed with his seeming knowledge base and seeming experience.

However we have this type of knowledge all around us at every moment

swimming in every Google search,
 
  I also agree with many comments he has made here, but the criminal Mafia suppression and interrupting every thread because its all worthless and just attempts to  suppress "simple OU "

maybe Zephir can take a moment from his busy schedule here running from thread to thread with a "foul flag" and banning everyone he see's fit ?
to explain why he feels he is qualified to moderate a thread here?

I don't think Stefan has ever made a man here a moderator who did not experiment in the media under discussion?

why would he ?
a theory thread? who needs more theories[unproven by empirical study

Zephir has never shared with members here his plan for this thread [moderated board] ,yet he feels very comfortable completely disregarding TOS and calling persons  here Criminals.. who hide OU... and scientists who work every day and know how to share OU but refuse and make believe
it does not exsist
that would be criminal indeed ..but it sounds odd to me, can he support these claims that many members here are such criminals?? [moderators mentioned too]

so Zephir are you going to share a build here of this OU is Simple"

let us Practice Brutal honesty?

respectfully
Chet K

 

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Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2017, 02:02:25 AM »
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disregarding TOS and calling persons  here Criminals

On the contrary - it was you who called me a criminal - you have it completely opposite ...:-) Under such a twisting of facts the further discussion with you is indeed nonsensical, meaningless and as such impossible... In addition such a personalia are off topic at overunity forum.

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theory thread? who needs more theories unproven by empirical study

If you don't know how to construct overunity device, every theory may be useful. The probability, you'll construct an overunity device without theory and understanding what you're actually doing is equal zero. My theories are supported with number of published studies and my attitude to theory is also solely practical: no useless math and abstract stuffs.

The overunity forum performs badly in latest years: not only it's not even able to follow the existing progress in overunity research, but some its members ridicule its achievements and they're drowning in frog&mice battles and trivial demonstrations of classical physics with no deeper clue. The new board could change it, but it requires to be moderated at scientific basis and kept away from all these trolls. Only time will tell us, if this strategy has chance to success.


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Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2017, 02:13:37 AM »
Zephir

you understand when you call a man a liar or suppressor of the truth on a public forum
[which you do several times a day here ]
that is called libel?
and it is a crime?

please explain how me calling your actions criminal [your cited libels]
is not true in your mind?
I am honestly at a complete loss ?

and today you called }"Grumage the pure" a mafia [criminal] henchmen of this forum
filled with suppressors of OU..

which part of that is not Libel ? and a crime here??

do they not have Libel laws in your country ?

they do here at this forum...

perhaps you make your case here for the OU is easy claim[request number 27 for this]

disregard my worthless and ignorant presence and speak to the members here about your Plans

??

yes lets keep to the topic
Zephir
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"OU is easy"
end quote

yes lets stay on topic...
are you going to Build ?
or point and demand others build your fancy?


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Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2017, 02:23:21 AM »
Interesting read but to be honest I have no idea what you are talking about for I don't follow anyone for none as far as I know understand this water for fuel technology other than myself right now and I'm not in the talking mood these days. As far as I am concerned I have shared all I am willing to share with everyone and all that I have shared for the most part has been rejected by the group as a whole.


I have seen many people rise up and fall claiming to be some sort of God in their own right and feel this person you speak of is just one of those Trump type of people whom are very narcissistic. If given the power to be as mean as one can be to people they will take flight with it and love it as this type of power trip suits their personalities perfectly. Sorry you had to go through this but remember how I was treated on many forums when all I wanted people to do was to do their own work so we could all learn together making use of the scientific method in trying to uncover just how this technology actually worked. I was told to take my scientific method, as if I had created it, and shove it where the sun doesn't shine. So, I had to go it alone for the most part and truly understand that Open Source is a joke from a inside perspective. I have been marginalized and pushed off to the side for as I was forced to go it alone I started keeping what I learned to myself also as why share anything with people that only wanted to tell me I was full of BS?


I learn back then that no one truly wants the truth. Nope, what they want is someone to give them this technology on a silver platter and even pay for the shipping to an address of their choice. Many times did I try and get people to make use of the scientific method which demands that real world experiments be done and the idea be completely rejected. I just read on the RWG site something that I find completely puzzling by NAV in saying that no one has ever achieved high voltage being applied to a water bath before when I had clearly shown the whole world in the 2013 Global BEM someone doing just that. I went on to keep improving my results putting higher and higher voltages to the water bath over time going from 4.2kv to 8.8kv from which point I stopped sharing my results with the group as all that was being done from me doing so was getting people upset at me due to envy and jealously of the results I was getting. To the best of my knowledge no one has even come close to the results I shared back at the 2013 Global BEM let alone the improvements I managed to make through much research and actual hands on real world experiments. So, from my perspective all of these forums are just a joke. No one actually wants to do much of anything in the way of the scientific method nor are they willing to actually work together for fear of not being the one whom solved the technology on their own thus having to share the glory with others which was something most I have run into simply do not want to do.


Nothing any of you can say to me right now will change my mind on what I have experienced with my whole eyes when it comes to dealing with those that actually join these Open Source forums. Interestingly now Nav is getting ready to call it quits as none of his work is yielding any fruit nor is the work of Ron from which was shared on the RWG whom basically told everyone that I was heading down the wrong path and thus should not be followed. Now all of these sites that I have been banned from are basically giving up or finding themselves running around in circles and to read that Nav say that no one has ever managed to put a high voltage to a water bath is just another slap in the face to me as I did it and it's clear my efforts are to be completely ignored and written off as a fluke or even a fraud as I have heard that name tossed around about me too.


What I found out in being tossed from all of these Open Source forums that works for the positive is it allowed me to really focus on my efforts to solve this technology without many distractions. But since I do things the hard way and funds are limited my work goes slowly at times. My last round of testing yielded 9.4kv being applied to the exciter array and in order to get any higher I had to completely redesign the VIC transformer which I am in the process of doing right now. But I have completely given up on these Open Source forums as most will just go out of their way to block this technology from coming out if they aren't allowed to make a buck from it or if they find that they have to pay someone for it. After talking with a few people I trust I we all have come to realized that we were simply in the wrong place for this technology to thrive. Most that I have run into in these forums have no idea how the markets work and even when the concept of how the markets work is explained to them refuse to support this technology going into a limited form of mass production. Nope they desire for people to pay the maximum price for this technology and all to work as individuals with little to no concern for their fellow man. They get real mad at me for refusing to share what I know through much hard work with them for free. I tell them about the need for this technology to go into a limited form of mass production so that the prices for this technology can be reduced and all they can see is their own personal needs and the rest of the world be dammed.


Right now this technology needs supporters but I seriously doubt I will find even a handful of people in this or any other Open Source forum to get behind this technology in its true time of need as all are out for self in forums like these. Too many egos, too many opinions that come from people that simply refuse to put their thoughts to the test experimentally as lets be honest it's a lot of hard work and it's really expensive to do things the right way. I don't even know how many thousands of dollars I have spent just so I could build and test my experiments with a high degree of accuracy. But if I had to give it a dollar value perhaps around $30k or more and people want me to just hand over my research to them while they stab me repeatedly in my back, not! I extended my hand to everyone while I was starting out so that we could all learn this technology together but that offer was rejected.


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Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2017, 02:35:09 AM »
Ed
yes you have been around the block in open source forums ,to hell and back.

I truly hope you have success in finding support "where there is a will there is a way"

here we have a man posting as I type this in another thread who is unaware [or is he??] of the retraction on Peter Graneau's  claims ?

his new thread here http://overunity.com/17231/energy-from-water-arc-explosions/msg504073/#new

Graneau's Claims retracted here   https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg77959.html

well lets see what he says ? I don't want to soil his topic [which I have great interest in].

respectfully
Chet K


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Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
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Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2017, 03:42:25 AM »
Quote from: h2opower
My last round of testing yielded 9.4kv being applied to the exciter array and in order to get any higher I had to completely redesign the VIC transformer which I am in the process of doing right now.

9400 volts, that's getting up there.  What voltage are you shooting for?

Also, what's your standing wave node spacing?  And is that an integer division of your exciter array?

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Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2017, 04:56:50 AM »
I find it interesting that these technologies all seem to have something similar in how they seem to work on things that main stream science has already gone over, be it far too quickly, and that no one seems to be willing to look more deeply into them. Hydrogen and water seem to hold the key to replacing fossil fuels and I am beginning to see others that have the potential to move the world away from fossil fuels. It's sad when ego gets all in the way of progress. Solar energy and some of these new energy storage devices are really making strides right now.


So many seem to be going in different directions trying to move us away from fossil fuels but the one person that has made them move is Elon Musk as Tesla motors has moved their agenda way up ahead of schedule for if I remember correctly they where talking 2030 or 2050 to start moving towards electric cars. I know one thing it has opened up the door for me to start into the market now but I have to be smart about it as there is very little room for error. Truthfully I hope this Graneau's claim retraction is just some sort of protection stunt as more are needed if we are to push the fossil fuel kings off of their thrown of power. I have even seen some capacitor technologies pushing to take the place of batteries all together. But the one thing I haven't seen much of is a new way to go about generating energy.


I will keep at it as things are looking good right now. At the RWG site all I can do is read as that is how far I am restricted from their site due to my many successes shown while they remain back in the stone ages with their efforts due to them totally ignoring what I have tried to tell them in how the technology actually works. Like I said it was sad to read NAV state that no one has managed to put high voltage to any Meyer type device as if what I did doesn't exist and never happened. If it wasn't for John Fraser there wouldn't have even been an interview video for people to see as Sterling Allen totally stood me up back then. I explained things as best I could with the understanding of what I was seeing taking place with my experiments at the time. I didn't have all the answers but I did show that putting a high voltage potential difference directly to a water bath was in fact possible thus giving Meyer some much needed credibility. I just wish others would have followed my lead instead of focusing all of their efforts in trying to shut me down.


When you look at these many different technologies take a look at the old science in far more detail are chances are something got missed that will turn out to be very important for understanding how the technology is working in a way that seems to defy the scientific norms. To Meyer's credit he did in fact tell just how the technology worked on a basic level but the missing part was that early science stuff I talked about in going over the basics looking to see if main stream science missed something. What I found was no one had ever asked just how a plant actually breaks the bonds of the water molecules before in that context. As simply as that question is it was never directly answered by main stream science. Then in watching one of Meyer's lectures just the other day to hear him state that the liquid water goes from a liquid to gas ionization stage tells exactly how this technology actually works and he did so in front of hundreds of people. But people are strange in that they want something just given to them on a silver platter.


I had a few people work with me but all of them bailed on me due to the high cost of building and testing things the right way as the scientific method demands be done. At least they were honest with me and told me that they just couldn't afford to keep the pace I was keeping in trying to figure out this technology. I remember having built a transformer design costing close to $1000 USD and having to toss it after just a few test as it was heading in the wrong direction. Even the build of the exciter array had to be almost perfect as I had to toss out two different designs due to problems found with the design. Most people just aren't willing or aren't able to keep doing things like this. But I go where the science leads me and if the science says what was built is going in the wrong direction then I simply toss it and build a new one based on what was learned from the failure. For the most part those that would line up to challenge me had no idea that I wasn't talking about some pure theory stuck in the world of imagination but real world experiments basing my efforts on trial and error of something real. But that didn't stop them as they managed to get me put out of each and every online Open Source forum but this one and in doing so dooming the sites where I was banned from as just how far can one run on pure imagination and no real world testing?


At most places I would always rub shoulders with those not actually doing any real work and move to ignoring them as most of the time they would have an idea and want someone else to test it for them as my experiments where already costing me more than I really could afford to spend. I'd simply demand that they do their own work and that would start their work on getting me kicked out of the forums for stupid reasons. They would start making claims of pure nonsense and tell everyone that I was doing everything all wrong or start attacking me on a personal level some even to stoop as low as to the color of my skin and I'd be the one to get banned for their racism and racist attacks against me. It's sad when you think about it but it's part of the world we live in.


I hope this person your talking too is one that actually will move towards doing something in the real world instead of just dreaming about things as in order to make dreams come true a lot of work has to be done to make it happen. I also hope he is like me in that he will give some of what he has learned with the hopes someone will also be willing to work with him along the way as working it alone without work load sharing is tough. I have always done my best to aid people in understanding how Meyer did what he did but sadly I get people like this ARMCORTEX popping out of the woodwork to tell me that all that I know is false as Meyer was a fraud and I got suckered. Even after I'd show the raw science which is totally provable as it's already taking place in nature people like them just keep pushing your buttons anyway.


I hope all goes well with this as it's tough for one to swallow their ego but it is not impossible. Just keep your eyes on the big picture and most of these small arguments we get into start to seem totally pointless. I now focus my efforts on getting into some form of limited mass production as that is the only way to cut cost for this or any other technology as that is just how the markets work and there simply is no getting around that.




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Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2017, 05:10:11 AM »
9400 volts, that's getting up there.  What voltage are you shooting for?

Also, what's your standing wave node spacing?  And is that an integer division of your exciter array?


According to Meyer and my own studies I have to reach 10kv or more with a cell this size before the atoms that make up the water molecules start to eject their electrons. I am getting close but this technology is no different than a device that makes ozone. There is a threshold that must be crossed before the atoms start to ionize and eject their electrons before this ionization nothing happens just as if the voltage is too low for an air ionizer no ozone is produced.
As for standing waves I haven't been using them as they seem less important in the over all process now just resonance and keeping it that way at all times. As for the exciter array the voltage is divided evenly between the ten capacitors wired in series just like the one that ran Meyer's dune buggy.


Meyer states that the working voltages for this technology are between 10-20kv in the patents and amp flow must be kept to no more than 1 mA if I read everything correctly. Most of the time I am able to keep the amp flow to only 0.6 mA so it is very possible. I just hope this next design has all the bugs worked out of it as I might have to build it in a way that it would have to all be tossed if it doesn't work correctly due to the high voltages I am dealing with. The oil baths no longer seem to work well on containing the voltages from arcing out the transformer so I might have to start making them with some sort of resin.

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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2017, 01:50:49 PM »

According to Meyer and my own studies I have to reach 10kv or more with a cell this size before the atoms that make up the water molecules start to eject their electrons. I am getting close but this technology is no different than a device that makes ozone. There is a threshold that must be crossed before the atoms start to ionize and eject their electrons before this ionization nothing happens just as if the voltage is too low for an air ionizer no ozone is produced.
As for standing waves I haven't been using them as they seem less important in the over all process now just resonance and keeping it that way at all times. As for the exciter array the voltage is divided evenly between the ten capacitors wired in series just like the one that ran Meyer's dune buggy.


Meyer states that the working voltages for this technology are between 10-20kv in the patents and amp flow must be kept to no more than 1 mA if I read everything correctly. Most of the time I am able to keep the amp flow to only 0.6 mA so it is very possible. I just hope this next design has all the bugs worked out of it as I might have to build it in a way that it would have to all be tossed if it doesn't work correctly due to the high voltages I am dealing with. The oil baths no longer seem to work well on containing the voltages from arcing out the transformer so I might have to start making them with some sort of resin.

h20

Good to see you around again.

Here is the big problem here,and in other forums--as soon as you mention using high voltages,and low currents to produce HHO,many just laugh at you--you know how it is,and how it has been at !other! places.

All is not lost--i am giving it one more try to get others to follow the path of HV HHO-->we shall see if they choose to learn and understand,or just want to be spoon fed.


Brad

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Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2017, 08:12:52 PM »
h20

Good to see you around again.

Here is the big problem here,and in other forums--as soon as you mention using high voltages,and low currents to produce HHO,many just laugh at you--you know how it is,and how it has been at !other! places.

All is not lost--i am giving it one more try to get others to follow the path of HV HHO-->we shall see if they choose to learn and understand,or just want to be spoon fed.


Brad


Yeah, I have been around the block with these forums and made a lot of enemies with my strong adherence to the use of the scientific method. Your video showing the high voltage is interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyW4dR4cUQM&t=27s
Meyer's technology requires that things be built fairly closely how Meyer had done so unless one understands the technology and is able to make changes and still compare it to what Meyer had done. I made a few changes to the exciter array but not so much that it will work any differently than Meyer's does. Now on the transformer I have made quite a bit of changes but the base design is always the same in that if I was to draw a circuit diagram it would be the same as that of Meyer's tech.


I have had to deal with Russ, Max, and a whole lot of other people that have some very large ego issues to deal with. The one thing in common with them all is they would have their forums and the power to put down people's points of view that they didn't agree with and that type of power proved to be too much for them as they would get very abusive with it. Sure I am not the easiest person in the world to deal with but one thing that never change about me was I would require that people would do their own work using some form of method where they would have a measurable outcome. Russ would build like crazy and when it came to testing time just bail on that part of the work and jump on to building something else. I called him on this several times but his die hard followers would have no one questioning their GOD and would make life difficult for me. When Russ ran out of Meyer stuff to build he did exactly as I had anticipated he would do, bail on everyone and jump on to something completely different with that noble gas engine, kinda forget what it was called as he bailed on that technology too.
With Max I noticed that he was not honest with his work as we worked closely enough together for me to notice that he was not telling me the truth about his results. We had practically the same set up and I was getting a temperature rise over time and he told me he was not. But when I took a close look at his video I could see heat rising out of his cells. That is the worse type of person to try and work with as if your not going to be honest with your results it messes up the entire process of the scientific method. With time everyone else started to see the wholes in his set up and he has now since faded away only to pop up now and again to say hi like Russ does.
Most of these people are out of water for fuel technology now with only a few of us left standing and of those few most are giving it one last try. Some of the followers hid themselves under different names so that they can get a fresh start with me or to basically start over without all of the baggage they created for themselves in the past. Most of the time I can figure out who they truly are and thankfully when I can't figure out who they are some of the friends I have made will tell me.


I tried to help NAV out before I was rudely shut down at the RWG site but his response towards me was surprising in that he wanted nothing to do with me based on the lies told to him by the forum members. Even though I was getting results like no one else was getting he chose to side with those who weren't getting any good results from their work on Meyer's technology. Now he is calling it quits just like all the others that stood against me seems to have done as these sites are very quite now that I have been given the boot from them. Like I mentioned earlier how far can someone run on theories if they aren't willing to put in any work to either prove or disprove these theories? Sure these people won the fight in getting me put out of their forums but in the end they lost the battle as they simply don't have what it takes to move forwards concerning true unknowns like this water for fuel technology presents to the world. I provided everyone with the pure science that filled in the gaps Meyer left out of his lectures on how this technology actually worked, and for that noble deed I was banished. Once I understood the way the markets actually worked I knew that this Open Source approach was just wrong for this technology. The Open Source approach works for software and other types of things that do not require something to be physically built. For things that need to be built the Open Source approach breaks down as it would then require everyone to build "One-Offs" which is the most costly way to go about making anything. I even wrote an article about it to try and explain just how Open Source fails at trying to bring this technology out to the world here: http://aetherforce.com/truth-open-source-inventors-perspective/ Basically when something has to be made the rules of the market has to be followed and the only way for the little guy to make it in that world is for us to crowdfund our monies together as doing so allows us to act like a large corporation so we too could buy in bulk.


Now I just work towards building up the company as I finally gave up on forums like these as their track record for aiding technologies like these to make it to the marketplace very poor. Most of the time they are very good at standing in the way and it's vastly becoming well known for it's ability to impede these types of technologies rather than help them. I had to learn all of this through the school of hard knocks Meyer talked about in one of his videos as I came to Open Source thinking it was a great tool to help get technologies like this out to the world but the reality shows it works to stop them which was a very hard lesson to learn as I believed in it's cause when I entered into it.

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Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2017, 08:15:49 PM »
H2Opower,

I never said Meyers was a fraud, he might have been a fraud, or he might have been believing his own bullshit. I dont think he electrolysis cell and injector were in working phase. Those that visited the buggy were not impressed, for this reason I have ceased all activities.

So when you say that your system works, because you follow Meyers, and that your cell is more like Daniel Dingle, sorry but I am not impressed. Besides, a man with a water engine is always in a talking mood, if not a talking mood, a happy mood.

The most important thing is that you must agree and concede that Stephen Meyers was a superior scientist than Stanley Meyers, and that he was the brains behind the circuitry.

In his radio interview he said his system is more advanced, need I say more? You can say all you want that you know Meyers and follow him and he was the boss and knew more than his brother but that argument falls short vs reality.

After all, Stan died, and he got hold of all information, and in his years of efforts and research, since he is a trained engineer, it is likely that his system is more advanced than Stanley, like he claimed in the interview. One thing is for sure, Stephen Meyers knows alot more about Stanley Meyers technology and how to make HHO gas more efficiently than H2OPOWER.

As for Zephir... Just another forumite, he should get his proposals into motion by building more and coming up with more practical approach to his opinions. Not much different than many forumites, I dont see why a thread is even necessary I could care less nobody is ever gonna get me seriously mad on these forums LOL.

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Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2017, 08:49:28 PM »
H2Opower,

I never said Meyers was a fraud, he might have been a fraud, or he might have been believing his own bullshit. I dont think he electrolysis cell and injector were in working phase. Those that visited the buggy were not impressed, for this reason I have ceased all activities.

So when you say that your system works, because you follow Meyers, and that your cell is more like Daniel Dingle, sorry but I am not impressed. Besides, a man with a water engine is always in a talking mood, if not a talking mood, a happy mood.

The most important thing is that you must agree and concede that Stephen Meyers was a superior scientist than Stanley Meyers, and that he was the brains behind the circuitry.

In his radio interview he said his system is more advanced, need I say more? You can say all you want that you know Meyers and follow him and he was the boss and knew more than his brother but that argument falls short vs reality.

After all, Stan died, and he got hold of all information, and in his years of efforts and research, since he is a trained engineer, it is likely that his system is more advanced than Stanley, like he claimed in the interview. One thing is for sure, Stephen Meyers knows alot more about Stanley Meyers technology and how to make HHO gas more efficiently than H2OPOWER.

As for Zephir... Just another forumite, he should get his proposals into motion by building more and coming up with more practical approach to his opinions. Not much different than many forumites, I dont see why a thread is even necessary I could care less nobody is ever gonna get me seriously mad on these forums LOL.


Look what the cat dragged in  :o . I guess your attempts to rip off some rich folks isn't working to well huh? Now you did say that those that are working on Meyer's technology are mentally unstable and reading into that means you have outright called him a fraud, but you believe in his brother whom is losing his memory due to alzheimer's.


I tried to give you some sound advice telling you to just take out a loan and work for your dreams like everyone else in this world has to but you refuse to do so stating you want and desire to spend other peoples money. Just think how far you would be toward attaining your goals if you had followed my advice, huh?!!


Anyway I don't have anything built like that of Dr. Dingle as I have never seen any of his work before and I thought from you looking at the photos I shared with you that you could figure that out but I guess I assume to much of you and your abilities to make sound decisions. Listen kid, go back under that rock you just climbed out of as everyone on this forum has you pegged as some sort of comic relief and we are not looking for a laugh right now, okay?


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Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2017, 09:00:50 PM »
I dont rip off people, everynight I look at my CAD design and I am in awe how cool my mechanical device would be.

I am deepening my knowledge of math, in differential equations, in numerical software like scilab.

Now is not the right time, that is all. Its money, its space, its complications that may arise, safety as well.

I dont fall to the low point of ripping off, I make things that I believe in and go full speed ahead, at my own speed.

Unlike you, who does not create from scratch, just another copy artist, copy Meyers, follow Meyers...

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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2017, 10:16:17 PM »
Stanley Meyers... That name recalls me much waste of time.

Your friends gave up and so have I.

Just as they banned you I would also have banned you.

They did nothing wrong, they saw the "light". You say you are in a bad mood and "ARMCORTEX HAS CAUSED ME TO QUESTION"...

LOL... You are the guy who has been clinging to Meyers longer than everybody I know, are you just stubborn? brilliant? Tenacious? crazy?

If you made such a good injector and it worked. Just like Herman P Anderson and Stanley Meyers, I havent seen
any replications. with 30k I can go farther, I used to tell people to just give me their money in the days as well, that I would build it
for them, I think I had idiots like you in my way as well thus I quit.

When are these old guys with illusions of grandeur gonna tell somebody about it and it will get replicated. Small injector will it see the light od day? Its certainly attractice technology, but in the end...we face possibility of bullshit. I would like to see more proof about Herman Anderson.

I would like to believe that Herman P anderson injector and Meyers injector would work, I am optimist, I am awaiting them
or somebody to test if it turns into a self runner.

At the time, I was trying to make an electrolyser as it seemed more of an easier test than injector motor, wich makes noise for night work. To me it was clear, either the brother of a fraud is not worth following, or either Stan was a good willed fool who had also illusions of grandeur but did manage to progress heavily and his brother surpassed him since he said he did.

All this time investment now stands on very poor foundation thus I pulled out. Have I had the investment shipped to me I would have progressed. I tried to convince some to do it my way but it was too late for them, their minds were lost.




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Re: A Discussion with Zephir all comments welcome
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2017, 10:40:36 PM »
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