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Author Topic: Some Bifilar coil experiments  (Read 9704 times)

Online Magluvin

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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #75 on: April 20, 2017, 10:04:39 PM »
Considering what I said above I was thinking of the possibility of the cap and inductor in parallel with a resistor in series with that, but it still is the inductor that is resistive, and the current from the input needs to go through the inductor to charge the cap, so Im sticking with what I said above.

Looking at how the series bifi reacts to input at resonance it does look to be a parallel equivalent event. But maye there is a strange combo in there that we dont realize yet. Some things are coming down the path that may enlighten us.

Here are sim shots below  The first circuit from the left is series, second is parallel and the third is what you presented as parallel.

Even the second one is not correct, refer to the 3rd image.  But if I connect the power supply in the 3rd circuit the sim locks and says cant have 0ohm with the power in connected directly to the cap, as can be seen in the sec pic.  So in the 3rd pic it should be an accurate presentation of a parallel circuit where the cap and the coil have their own resistances. Not poking fun or faulting, but where ever that came from it is not correct.

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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #75 on: April 20, 2017, 10:04:39 PM »

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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #76 on: April 20, 2017, 10:06:23 PM »
Also having the resistor in parallel with the other components, if it were a low value it would take on wasted current from the input inspite of the other components.

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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #77 on: April 20, 2017, 10:49:02 PM »

I looked back a couple posts and couldn't figure out what the subject matter actually is except maybe what the topic title suggests, which is experiments on bifilar coils. Well here's an eBook that explains what we can do with bifilar coils that hasn't been explained anywhere else before that I can see so far.


http://eternalmotor.blogspot.com/p/genesis-of-new-energy-source_32.html


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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #78 on: April 20, 2017, 11:19:36 PM »
I looked back a couple posts and couldn't figure out what the subject matter actually is except maybe what the topic title suggests, which is experiments on bifilar coils. Well here's an eBook that explains what we can do with bifilar coils that hasn't been explained anywhere else before that I can see so far.


http://eternalmotor.blogspot.com/p/genesis-of-new-energy-source_32.html

This is what I get when I try that link....

Mags


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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #79 on: April 20, 2017, 11:26:23 PM »
You're kidding me. It's just a google blogspot formerly known as blogger. May I ask where you are accessing internet at? At home, an internet café, the library, your mobile cell? I have no problems with the link, maybe try another access point? Not sure why you got that message, to me that looks like a fake message of some type that has nothing to do with what it says. I'm pretty sure Google isn't going to allow what that message claims. It must be installed on a router you're using or something, pretty weird and rare. Please let me know.  ;)

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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #80 on: April 20, 2017, 11:41:12 PM »
You're kidding me. It's just a google blogspot formerly known as blogger. May I ask where you are accessing internet at? At home, an internet café, the library, your mobile cell? I have no problems with the link, maybe try another access point? Not sure why you got that message, to me that looks like a fake message of some type that has nothing to do with what it says. I'm pretty sure Google isn't going to allow what that message claims. It must be installed on a router you're using or something, pretty weird and rare. Please let me know.  ;)

Well its my firewall comodo that is asking me if I want to continue and im choosing not to. Its possible that comodo could work its way through some issues that may appear but should I risk it?

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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #81 on: April 20, 2017, 11:41:58 PM »
I looked back a couple posts and couldn't figure out what the subject matter actually is
except maybe what the topic title suggests, which is experiments on bifilar coils.
Well here's an eBook that explains what we can do with bifilar coils that hasn't been
explained anywhere else before that I can see so far.


http://eternalmotor.blogspot.com/p/genesis-of-new-energy-source_32.html

Hi Teslonian,

Sorry to chime in, I figure the author of the ebook has a youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/user/debunkified/videos   

and during the recent years he uploaded several videos with very eye and ear attracting 
titles like  "OVER 1000% More Energy Out than IN (Joules stored)" 
or "325% Overunity Load Resistor Test "  or his latest 1 month old video:
 "Solid State Looped Overunity".   

I do not want to "debunk" him,  I respect his tinkerings but...   I think first he ought to make
a correct video on a device that  is working on principles written in his ebook
and gives abundant energy.  I do not mean he should fully reveal his device in the video
but perform correct input-output power measurements.

Gyula

PS please resize your uploaded picture on the ebook because it too big pixel numbers.
Use only maximum 1000 pixel horizontally, now you have 1350 pixel in it. 
Such big sized pictures make reading this thread very uncomfortable by scrolling right and left.

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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #82 on: April 20, 2017, 11:52:33 PM »

Magluvin, I don't think it's a risk, I've checked it out and it's a blogspot, which is owned my Google, there's nothing on there that is a risk. Actually it appears that he has put some effort into the design and also a growing collection of electronic information and all his designs from YouTube and older websites he's owned in the past appear to be there as well.


I have a blogspot myself and it's very limited as far as programming is concerned and you have to use their dashboard, which is extremely irritating when they add their own html after already editing and saving and then going back and deleting it, which adds something else, it's almost like a never ending editing job, so I have to commend this guy for making that site look the way he has made it look. I've made contact with the guy and he says that in his book he explains the asymmetry of bucking magnetic fields, and how to utilize them in a way not explained anywhere else, so, keeping an eye on it.

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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #83 on: April 21, 2017, 12:06:45 AM »
Gyula Sun, sorry bout that, I didn't realize that image was so huge, I replaced it with a smaller one, with the dimensions for you to see, but it still ends up being quite large, so I'm leaving it at that. For some reason I can't see any pictures in this topic on this forum with my phone, and I do see a flash of that Comodo antivirus or whatever, not sure what that is or where it's coming from just by clicking the attachment of the eBook cover, even on my phone with my own carrier.

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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #84 on: April 21, 2017, 12:14:44 AM »
Hi Teslonian,

Very good job on the picture size, now it perfectly fits, thank you.

I wish Marc could learn about the other parts of my above post too...  8)

Gyula

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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #85 on: May 08, 2017, 08:25:27 PM »
Im building Nelson Rocha's circuit he has posted a few years ago. In search for high voltage hairpin impulses.

Tr2 is a step up tranformer (230V-5V in reverse)

capacitors at the base and the 4700pF need to bee 400V rating
diodes ultra fast.

the ring toroid 1:1 is a joulethief with the darlington. creating pulses in the step up transformer.

waiting for some parts...

with high enough current/voltage the sine wave (expected) transforms into pulses (i hope...)

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Re: Some Bifilar coil experiments
« Reply #86 on: May 08, 2017, 08:54:33 PM »
When pulsed from both ends, at the same time, but with opposite polarity pulses, We still have a dielectric voltage rise, but now with the absence of the normally observed"static" magnetic field  (seen with a compass) at resonant frequency.

We ring a bell, with a strong impulse, short and energetic. thats why I need hairpin pulses, with high voltage.

We are use to inductive power. but this coil is about capacitive power.

MAgnetic fields are the LOSS of the dielectric field. When we spend energy we produce magnetic fields.

So to CREATE energy we need to stay away from producing magnetic fields, we need to produce strong dielectric fields (something the bifilar pancake tesla coil excels in).

to use the standing wave, it needs to be 180 degrees out of phase (2 resonating coils).
This can be understood by looking at 2 equal ropes. that slap together at 180 degrees out of phase, the complete rope clashes together, producing a big slap. 

I like to use a center tap, so the coils become whips. producing even higher voltage. (2 coils series connected in the middle, to ground, so the outside ends are 180 degrees out of phase).

the bang it produces with High voltage, bounces back....

When the dielectric field energy is rectified, and captured in capacitors, it can then be transformed into lower voltage.



 

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