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Author Topic: N.R.M.R.E. An investigation.  (Read 14929 times)

Offline Dog-One

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Re: N.R.M.R.E. An investigation.
« Reply #105 on: April 21, 2017, 11:20:39 AM »
Ok
I'll go and buy some of those transistors tomorrow morning, and whack it together.

Thanks Brad.  I will be real curious as to what you see going on inside this gizmo.

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Re: N.R.M.R.E. An investigation.
« Reply #105 on: April 21, 2017, 11:20:39 AM »

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Re: N.R.M.R.E. An investigation.
« Reply #106 on: April 21, 2017, 12:49:41 PM »
Good morning Ladies and Gentlemen.

I cannot believe what I have seen....

PRETENCE?

How many thousands of hours and money have been spent on " pretence " ?

This thread was started as an investigation into Nelson's Mini Radiant Exciter with a schematic that didn't match his video presentation, we all knew that. The idea was to work collectively in the hope that
we could find the missing pieces.

Then comes this " playful little wind " the latest COP>1 over unity policeman, breezing in and out of the many threads scattering his " cut n paste " pearls of wisdom.....

Well.... the " Hurricane " cometh..... time to blow that Zephyr into oblivion....

So.... do we carry on? TinselKoala, you have already inspired many, another stab?

Kind regards, Grum.

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Re: N.R.M.R.E. An investigation.
« Reply #107 on: April 21, 2017, 02:16:04 PM »
Thanks Grum,
 
Ok my build is shit.


:)


For starters I have not got a fancy schmancy power supply. I'm using a battery & resistors. I see the most interesting waveform at around 600mv. I'm still trying diff transformers. I have a big 25w lamp load on it atm off to get neons tomoz forgot them today DOH! Brad do Jaycar sell any ok power supplies?

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Re: N.R.M.R.E. An investigation.
« Reply #108 on: April 21, 2017, 05:03:59 PM »
It looks fine from here Jim! :)

Just a thought, how about trying Nelson's drive on a " commercially " wound transformer? As we're in the early days.

Cheers Grum.


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Re: N.R.M.R.E. An investigation.
« Reply #109 on: April 21, 2017, 05:37:03 PM »
You mean progress of "builders"? No such thing exists here, wake up - no need to protect it.
I want to establish it instead - but I'm not sure, if it would be possible with existing builders here.
You can't teach an old dog new tricks and your reactions aren't encouraging.

And you are a builder? Have you shown your projects in which to compare what a builder really is? If you do not contribute anything solid to back up your claims of others being wrong about everything, and just bashing, then you will be put on moderation and your posts wont be shown until they show you are cleaning up your act. Not a fun position to be in as your post may not be approved for days possibly and will show up in the order it was posted, so way back where nobody will notice.

If thats what you want then keep it up. ;) I have no problem at putting in the request for your moderation mode.

Mags

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Re: N.R.M.R.E. An investigation.
« Reply #109 on: April 21, 2017, 05:37:03 PM »
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Re: N.R.M.R.E. An investigation.
« Reply #110 on: April 21, 2017, 05:44:01 PM »
Mags
not that simple, he has called Builders here OU fraudsters purposely hiding the truth

EVIDENCE ??

NONE

 this has lead to members here choosing to leave instead of being called Crooks by a man who does nothing here but tell lies about members and make trouble everywhere he can.

I will be talking with Stefan in a few hours .


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Re: N.R.M.R.E. An investigation.
« Reply #111 on: April 21, 2017, 05:45:19 PM »
Thanks Grum,
 
Ok my build is shit.


:)


For starters I have not got a fancy schmancy power supply. I'm using a battery & resistors. I see the most interesting waveform at around 600mv. I'm still trying diff transformers. I have a big 25w lamp load on it atm off to get neons tomoz forgot them today DOH! Brad do Jaycar sell any ok power supplies?

Yes they do.

https://www.jaycar.com.au/power-products-electrical/power-supply/laboratory-bench/c/402A


Brad

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« Reply #111 on: April 21, 2017, 05:45:19 PM »
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Offline tinman

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Re: N.R.M.R.E. An investigation.
« Reply #112 on: April 21, 2017, 05:47:29 PM »
Mags
not that simple, he has called Builders here OU fraudsters purposely hiding the truth

EVIDENCE ??

NONE

 this has lead to members here choosing to leave instead of being called Crooks by a man who does nothing here but tell lies about members and make trouble everywhere he can.

I will be talking with Stefan in a few hours .

Easy to tell he is in the army lol.

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Re: N.R.M.R.E. An investigation.
« Reply #113 on: April 21, 2017, 05:50:53 PM »
Your burning the midnight oil...

 :D

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Re: N.R.M.R.E. An investigation.
« Reply #114 on: April 21, 2017, 05:56:17 PM »
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And you are a builder? Have you shown your projects in which to compare what a builder really is?
It's not my intention to interfere anyone here. But I'm not required to be a builder or broody hen for to recognize a smelling aged egg. Two replicators already posted their replicas here, that's perfect - but what I'm saying is, these replicas don't correspond the Nelson Rocha's circuits and they omitted detail (IMO crucial, actually working principle) - which has been also neglected in all previous (equally clueless) threads about Nelson Rocha's device and I don't want to repeat the same mistake here again.

Now as a moderator you have only two options in essence: to adhere on rule, that only members, who already did show their attempts for replication are allowed to affect the discussion and to comment another builders - and to wait, until some builder will finally recognize, what I posted at beginning of the forum (and with increasing time and length of thread this option will cease to zero). Or you'll adhere on strict conformance of all replicas with Nelson Rocha's device for all builders from their very beginning - no matter how "recognized" or "meritorious" they already are. Because every seemingly tiny detail may decide, whether some laborious thousand pages long thread will be finally successful or not.

You know, the generic problem with builders is, they have rather tendency to replicate circuits as a whole and to solve technical details (choice of components and so on). They're explorative and opened to improvisation without strict adherence on some theory of circuit function. And vice-versa: the theorists usually don't bother with practical details and tinkering. They don't want to wait for complete replicas - but to analyze principle of function on parts of circuit first. Now you have a chance to promote cooperation of both types of people - or to continue in existing modus vivendi of this forum, which contains mixture of theoretical proposals and builder threads - both equally clueless and arguably unsuccessful for last twenty years.

The problem of this collaborative mode is, the theorists are essentially expected to tell, what the builders should exactly do - which may or may not be palatable for members, who already gained social credit with their attempts for replication here.

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Re: N.R.M.R.E. An investigation.
« Reply #115 on: April 21, 2017, 06:19:48 PM »
It's not my intention to interfere anyone here. But I'm not required to be a builder or broody hen for to recognize a smelling aged egg. Two replicators already posted their replicas here, that's perfect - but what I'm saying is, these replicas don't correspond the Nelson Rocha's circuits and they omitted detail (IMO crucial, actually working principle) - which has been also neglected in all previous (equally clueless) threads about Nelson Rocha's device and I don't want to repeat the same mistake here again.

Now as a moderator you have only two options in essence: to adhere on rule, that only members, who already did show their attempts for replication are allowed to comment another builders and to affect the discussion and to wait, until some builder finally recognize, what I posted at beginning of the forum (and with increasing time and length of thread this option will cease to zero). Or you'll adhere on strict conformance of all replicas with Nelson Rocha's device for all builders from their very beginning - no matter how "recognized" or "meritorious" they already are. Because every seemingly tiny detail may decide, whether some laborious thousand pages long thread will be finally successful or not.

You know, the generic problem with builders is, they have rather tendency to replicate circuits already given and to solve technical details (choice of components and so on). They're quite liberal and opened to improvisation without strict adherence on some theory of circuit function. And vice-versa: the theorists usually don't bother with practical details and tinkering. Now you have chance to promote cooperation of both types of people - or to continue in existing modus vivendi of this forum, which contains mixture of theoretical proposals and builder threads - both equally clueless and arguably unsuccessful for last twenty years.

The problem of this collaborative mode is, the theorists are essentially expected to tell, what the builders should exactly do - which may or may not be palatable for members, who already gained social credit with their attempts for replication here.

Well then build it and show them how its done. If not then you have said enough to get your message out in 1 post. But you go on and on. The majority here have complained about your posts and its getting heard. So either join as a builder or just sit and watch instead of just bashing. If not you will have no choice other than to sit back and read only.

Walk the walk or talk the talk. The walk gets better results, as you are experiencing here.

Mags

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Re: N.R.M.R.E. An investigation.
« Reply #116 on: April 21, 2017, 06:29:26 PM »
well
good to have this talk

soo we are saying we're OK with the lies that this man has told about builders here?

who is OK with this ??

the builders have left and gone elsewhere .... we are OK with that ??



I will not bother Stefan if that's where this has gone, it would be pointless.

this nonsense wear's everyone thin, if we allow builders to be randomly selected for abuse and continue walking...

as if nothing happened...????

next time maybe its You ??




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Re: N.R.M.R.E. An investigation.
« Reply #117 on: April 21, 2017, 06:31:20 PM »
As a theorist what I recommend by now is to look, how the parametric oscillator really behaves with respect to overunity.

We should therefore attach some sufficiently large toroidal coil at the board and to torture it with well defined voltage pulses from generator under oscilloscope. This toroid coil should be stuffed with another coil according to Nelson Rocha's prototype, which will be loaded with the same pulses - only delayed by phase for to prove my theorem, that the saturation of ferrite by external magnetic field during main pulse affects the BEMF energy, returned with main coil into circuit after pulse. I.e. to attempt to isolate and demonstrate the overunity effect, which Nelson Rocha's circuit is POSSIBLY based on. If we would have it done and this principle will be working, then the wiring of the rest of circuit may be relatively easy.

The hard-core builders can indeed still attempt for replication and reviving Nelson's Rocha circuit from scratch - but its difficult to support such an attempts with advices at distance, until we don't know, what the experimenter is actually doing. Such a complex circuit may behave like the black box and we're predestined to find its working point only by trial&error approach. And I can not still guarantee, that the circuit schemes presented in this thread really correspond the Nelson Rocha's originals from his videos. The first approach seems to be a less risky strategy for me. I'll occasionally try it myself, once my time will allow it - but not before the summer vacations.

@ramset: From history of your posts follows clearly, you're neither builder, neither theorist - you're a social creature, who just deals permanently and consistently with psychologizing and with forum members (i.e. persons) instead of technical subjects. Every discussion  with you - or just sentence about you - will make me/us more distant from my target here, which is solely technical discussion. I'm not here for building any social relationships - neither positive, neither negative. You're not interesting for me from this perspective - just deal with it.

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Re: N.R.M.R.E. An investigation.
« Reply #118 on: April 21, 2017, 06:34:19 PM »
It's not my intention to interfere anyone here. But I'm not required to be a builder or broody hen for to recognize a smelling aged egg. Two replicators already posted their replicas here, that's perfect - but what I'm saying is, these replicas don't correspond the Nelson Rocha's circuits and they omitted detail (IMO crucial, actually working principle) - which has been also neglected in all previous (equally clueless) threads about Nelson Rocha's device and I don't want to repeat the same mistake here again.

You make no sense.

Please DO point out where we have deviated from Nelson's schematic, re attached.

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Re: N.R.M.R.E. An investigation.
« Reply #119 on: April 21, 2017, 06:36:54 PM »
Zephir
your horrid behavior is what we're talking about here

there are builders who have left the forum due to this.

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