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Author Topic: N.R.M.R.E. An investigation.  (Read 74637 times)

AlienGrey

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Re: N.R.M.R.E. An investigation.
« Reply #135 on: April 24, 2017, 11:22:11 PM »
It's not my intention to interfere anyone here. But I'm not required to be a builder or broody hen for to recognize a smelling aged egg. Two replicators already posted their replicas here, that's perfect - but what I'm saying is, these replicas don't correspond the Nelson Rocha's circuits and they omitted detail (IMO crucial, actually working principle) - which has been also neglected in all previous (equally clueless) threads about Nelson Rocha's device and I don't want to repeat the same mistake here again.

Now as a moderator you have only two options in essence: to adhere on rule, that only members, who already did show their attempts for replication are allowed to affect the discussion and to comment another builders - and to wait, until some builder will finally recognize, what I posted at beginning of the forum (and with increasing time and length of thread this option will cease to zero). Or you'll adhere on strict conformance of all replicas with Nelson Rocha's device for all builders from their very beginning - no matter how "recognized" or "meritorious" they already are. Because every seemingly tiny detail may decide, whether some laborious thousand pages long thread will be finally successful or not.

You know, the generic problem with builders is, they have rather tendency to replicate circuits as a whole and to solve technical details (choice of components and so on). They're explorative and opened to improvisation without strict adherence on some theory of circuit function. And vice-versa: the theorists usually don't bother with practical details and tinkering. They don't want to wait for complete replicas - but to analyze principle of function on parts of circuit first. Now you have a chance to promote cooperation of both types of people - or to continue in existing modus vivendi of this forum, which contains mixture of theoretical proposals and builder threads - both equally clueless and arguably unsuccessful for last twenty years.

The problem of this collaborative mode is, the theorists are essentially expected to tell, what the builders should exactly do - which may or may not be palatable for members, who already gained social credit with their attempts for replication here.
Stephan and Wesley I am sick to death of reading this twoddle this arrogant cheeky narrow-minded soul destroying git keeps spurting out, remember ************   Sequental.9   ***************
 Similarity ????????????? and all the other aliases ?  he is like a Dr W Who of the nightmare world !

Please please get rid of him before he destroys every thread ...............

Jimboot

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« Reply #136 on: April 25, 2017, 02:04:47 PM »

Close ups of the pulse with the power disconnected.


« Last Edit: April 25, 2017, 11:20:35 PM by Jimboot »

Dog-One

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Re: N.R.M.R.E. An investigation.
« Reply #137 on: April 25, 2017, 09:23:12 PM »
mmm now that I've watched the video again the behaviour is very similar to this circuit. Down to the wave form.

Isn't that funny.  Nelson's novel design for achieving rapid high voltage pulses.

Here's another hint.

Jimboot

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« Reply #138 on: April 25, 2017, 11:16:57 PM »
Isn't that funny.  Nelson's novel design for achieving rapid high voltage pulses.

Here's another hint.
Yeah I get it. Looking for some pick up coils. I watched a lot of Nelson's vids last night

Dog-One

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« Reply #139 on: April 26, 2017, 01:15:20 AM »
I watched a lot of Nelson's vids last night

Freemake them while they are still up and make a note in sequential order what he
discovered and what he was probably thinking before his next step.

Never know when things could all turn to $hit.

I've gotten several great messages from Nelson and for-sure he is well on his way.

Jimboot

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« Reply #140 on: April 26, 2017, 01:24:12 AM »
Lots of fun. Thanks Nelson!
Makes the "doesn't work" comments read a bit funny :)

Vortex1

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« Reply #141 on: April 26, 2017, 04:14:41 AM »
Lots of fun. Thanks Nelson!
Makes the "doesn't work" comments read a bit funny :)

Caveat Emptor!  ;)

Jimboot

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« Reply #142 on: April 26, 2017, 04:28:58 AM »

nelsonrochaa

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« Reply #143 on: April 26, 2017, 04:52:42 AM »
Lots of fun. Thanks Nelson!
Makes the "doesn't work" comments read a bit funny :)

Jimboot , i'm glad that you have some fun seeing my videos :)

Thanks

All the best


Nelson Rocha

AlienGrey

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Re: N.R.M.R.E. An investigation.
« Reply #144 on: April 26, 2017, 08:09:24 AM »
Yes agreed!
Caveat Emptor!  = buyer be ware !

Jimboot

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« Reply #145 on: April 26, 2017, 12:42:07 PM »
Yes. I know. He's referring to an earlier conversation we had.

Jimboot

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« Reply #146 on: April 26, 2017, 01:07:49 PM »
Some observations today.
As the charge drained it the circuit after switching it off, it was also charging a 16v 120000uf cap at about 1mv / sec a with fairly long drop off curve.


Testing different drive coils to find the best combo for the circuit and collecting the pulses. I suspect that will be pancakes but damn I hate winding them.


Collecting the pulses was very finicky. sometimes better with a core other times better with out. And of course it affected the drive as well. A lovely tuning exercise. Still lots to explore here, for me anyway.

Grumage

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« Reply #147 on: April 26, 2017, 01:18:03 PM »
Way to go Jim.

Chet recently wrote something like.... if you poke someone in the same place, over and over it begins to hurt.

The few friends I've made know where to find me.

Cheers Grum.

tinman

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« Reply #148 on: April 26, 2017, 02:00:02 PM »
Close ups of the pulse with the power disconnected.

Hang on a minute here

How dun be getting two wave forms on one channel ?  :o

Jimboot

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« Reply #149 on: April 26, 2017, 02:02:31 PM »
two coils. I dunno. I didn't make the scope  ;D
I would add that my thinking is that they are flipping in the Ghz range and it doesn't show but they do also move independently of each other if you touch the coils. So yeah, I dunno.