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Author Topic: Light Source from MVP (Magnetic Voltaic Potential) by TLG-team  (Read 6848 times)

Offline dr.blue

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Light Source from MVP (Magnetic Voltaic Potential) by TLG-team
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The work and information contained herein is released under the CC BY-NC-SA license.

MVP (Magnetic Voltaic Potential)


MVP can be observed and measured between two separate earths, actual or synthetic. The MVP varies depending on location, distance between the earths and their orientation to the earths N-S poles.

A MVP can be created using the (planet) earth, when inserting two pieces of conductive metal rods in the ground a MVP can be measured between said two rods. The rods must be placed in increments of 30m from each other and aligned in the earths N-S direction. The larger the distance between the rods, the larger the MVP. 

MVP can also be found in almost any contemporary housing, using the Earth from the electrical installation and/or radiator and/or water pipe and/or antenna and/or metallic structures etc. etc. The MVP found is observed to vary between ~30-140V and can be either a DV (Direct Voltage) i.e. fixed, or AV (Alternating Voltage) i.e. oscillations can be observed.

Where there is MVP, there is no current, but that does not imply that there are no energy, on the contrary. The simple reason for the absence of current is; there are NO electrons present, and since electrons are the matter that current is made of, the result is; no electrons = no current.

The energy is not measurable due to the lack of appropriate lab equipment here, but can easily be observed, in this case we can produce light with the help of the experimental E2 circuit.

The experimental E2 Circuit

Please see the attached schematics for the experimental circuit (e2-schematic.png), it is extremely simple, it consist only of a LED panel attached to two earths. This type of circuit is henceforth known as the EII or E2 circuit.

A picture of the actual circuit in operation is attached (4panelA.jpg). What can be observed is that the LED panels (There are four LED panels each 24 LED's in series in each cluster) lights up very brightly, and that the meter reads 0.00mA when the nominal consumption for these LED panels is total 40mA @ 60V. A beneficial side effect of the electron absence can be observed in the LED panels, they do not increase in temperature while operating, no observable heat is produced.

A bonus picture is also attached (bonus-16panelsA.jpg), it shows an E2 circuit with a diode-bridge connected to 16 LED panels (4 clusters of 4 panels in each cluster, and 24 led's in series in each panel) in parallel i.e. 384 LED's in total. Again, nominal consumption 160mA @ 60V, actual consumption 0.00mA.

Guide for reproducing the experimental E2 Circuit

• Make sure you can measure a MVP
• Use LED's that has a nominal voltage below MVP
• Not all LED's will work due to differences in the manufacturing process, so you will need to experiment with a handful of different types.
• Note that the MVP will adapt to the lowest nominal voltage e.g. if you measure 100V MPV and use a 3V LED, the MVP will drop to 3V. If you connect a 12V LED and a 3V LED in parallel, only the 3V LED will light up. But if you connect two 12V LED's in parallel, both LED's will light up.

Call for Community Research Contribution

We would be greatly interested in any observation (however trivial it may seem) that you make when you have reproduced the experimental E2 circuit, together with as much as possible of the following information:

• Types of LED's used, preferably with information about manufacturer and data sheet
• Measured MVP
• Types of Earth used
• Scope screen shots of the MVP, if any oscillations are suspected or observed
• Location, preferably with lon/lat coordinates
• 24 hour log of the MVP, minimum 1 sample per 60 seconds

We have successfully powered up some low-power electronic consumer devices using MVP, if you performs such experiments, we would also be interested to learn what worked for you and what didn't.

You are encouraged to post your results in this forum, so that others may benefit from them too.

If you intend to develop commercial applications based on our work, you will obviously need to obtain a commercial license from us, and most importantly, you will likely require our consultancy services. Please do not hesitate to contact the undersigned in either case.

Kind regards

dr.blue, the TLG-team

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Re: Light Source from MVP (Magnetic Voltaic Potential) by TLG-team
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2017, 12:32:11 AM »
Well done.
I have such potentials between my heating pipe and the groundline of my cable TV connector on the wall...
so you sometimes also get an electrical shock, when you touch these both poles... This is also why
TV-Cards in PC sometimes die...when you connect the tv cable from the cable TV conector from the wall, which
has a different ground connection than the PCs grounded input grid supply...

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Re: Light Source from MVP (Magnetic Voltaic Potential) by TLG-team
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2017, 12:50:44 AM »
@dr.blue

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• Location, preferably with lon/lat coordinates

--but you forgot to tell us where _you_ are located. Do you perhaps live in a location that uses SWER system for electricity distribution?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-wire_earth_return


Also, I can assure you that if your LEDs are lighting up, there is current flowing, no matter what your meter might be saying.

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Re: Light Source from MVP (Magnetic Voltaic Potential) by TLG-team
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2017, 09:07:54 AM »
I have such potentials between my heating pipe and the groundline of my cable TV connector on the wall...

That's great, please let us know what you can achieve with a couple of LED's.

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Re: Light Source from MVP (Magnetic Voltaic Potential) by TLG-team
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2017, 09:11:19 AM »
Also, I can assure you that if your LEDs are lighting up, there is current flowing, no matter what your meter might be saying.

Thank you for your sentiments. I'm not here to debate nor change your belief system, I hope you can appreciate that.

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Re: Light Source from MVP (Magnetic Voltaic Potential) by TLG-team
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2017, 09:11:19 AM »
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Re: Light Source from MVP (Magnetic Voltaic Potential) by TLG-team
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2017, 10:30:20 AM »
Dr.blue
Over the years I have spoken with folks all around the globe who have seen this "charge" and done experiments [short little Musings]
member Grumage here had done some interesting experiments in his yard in the UK which seemed to have  larger than expected results.
He is also doing an experiment here with the Electroststic field to check for an east west "bias"
here
http://overunity.com/17063/smudges-musings-on-electro-kinetic-potential-in-the-earths-a-field/#.WOX6oLl1pdg
also
there's a fellow at energetic forum who puts lots of rods [copper] in the ground and gets energy, he still seems to be playing with that for "big" claims
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20091-barbosa-leal-devices-info-replication-details.html

your experiments would be fun, it would be good to qualify where the energy comes from [mentioned leakage SWER issues by TinselKoala]   are there "laylines" to be found which hold paths of energy in specific orientations or is this leakage from the grid which can be picked up from some tuned antennae [Grid harmonic] in the ground [specific distance apart ??

  actually simple and fun to do, I remember a fellow in Sweden was so intrigues he went into the forest and still found it there ,even ground to tree experiments.
are you going to collect and collate the data here in some fashion?
establish Laylines on the map/globe?

mixing this experiment with electrostatics might be very interesting too...
Thanks

Chet K

PS
in the future if you do post more Pics ,it would be good to resize them  smaller so it doesn't make the page so big
scrolling back and forth to read breaks up the flow..and gets annoying to some people.


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Re: Light Source from MVP (Magnetic Voltaic Potential) by TLG-team
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2017, 11:32:30 AM »
Dear Mr. Chet

Thank you for your message.

Over the years I have spoken with folks all around the globe who have seen this "charge" and done experiments [short little Musings]

That is correct, MVP is not a new concept as such. The only problem was (in past tense) that nobody could identify and quantify the energy in question, and that understanding is the key for taking full advantage of it.

check for an east west "bias"

"east west" is a human construct, there is nothing to be found there.

your experiments would be fun [......]  actually simple and fun to do

That is exactly where we hope this post would take it, and if nothing else, people can at least light up their home for free. Eagerly awaiting to see the results of your personal experiments

are you going to collect and collate the data here in some fashion?

Yes, obviously.

in the future if you do post more Pics ,it would be good to resize them  smaller

Duly noted, thank you.




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Re: Light Source from MVP (Magnetic Voltaic Potential) by TLG-team
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Re: Light Source from MVP (Magnetic Voltaic Potential) by TLG-team
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2017, 01:34:28 PM »
Dear dr.blue.

You might find these of interest?

https://youtu.be/mRz3oTLicT4

https://youtu.be/x__NQOtrzf0

This next link appeared interesting but the resonance was explained as stray capacitance as the frequency increased.


https://youtu.be/MXPtdzhSdfw

Kind regards, Graham.

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Re: Light Source from MVP (Magnetic Voltaic Potential) by TLG-team
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2017, 02:03:34 PM »
Dear Mr. Graham

You might find these of interest?

Well, "yes" in the sense that if you stick two rods in the (planet) earth, you will get an observable MVP. And "No" because there is no information pertaining to the location and orientation of the rods.

I would be of bigger interest if you personally could replicate the E2 circuit and let us know your findings along with the pertinent information requested.

Kind regards

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Re: Light Source from MVP (Magnetic Voltaic Potential) by TLG-team
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2017, 02:06:54 PM »
blue
What do you mean by location?

I see you did not answer the Koala when he asked for your location?[SWER Grid question]
what do you mean?

respectfully
Chet K

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Re: Light Source from MVP (Magnetic Voltaic Potential) by TLG-team
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2017, 02:43:52 PM »
Dear Mr. Chet

What do you mean by location?

LON/LAT coordinates, doesn't have to be precise, within 20km radius is fine.

I see you did not answer the Koala when he asked for your location?[SWER Grid question]

I deliberately choose not to entertain Mr. Koala's questions and claims, because it serves no purpose whatsoever. I hope you can appreciate and respect my personal decision.

Kind regards.

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Re: Light Source from MVP (Magnetic Voltaic Potential) by TLG-team
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2017, 04:15:51 PM »
Dear blue
I agree that your experiments as outlined would seem to be autonomous of the grid
Mr.Koala is a metrologist and has always been a pain in the tucus for nitty gritty details

such as perhaps the measurements in SWER areas will reflect some hidden clue towards further enhancement ....or not ??

I have learned that there is no such thing as too much Data [thank you Mr.Koala]

have you a map with such data available already ... any map any data ??
your quote
"Yes, obviously."
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I am truly excited about your research ,and for clarity the east west experiments mentioned above are of an electrostatic nature and some of us are grateful for the effort put forth By Mr.Grum and also as noted in his Vid he is in North  Wales  UK
I am in NYC area USA

with respect and gratitude
Mr.Chet

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Re: Light Source from MVP (Magnetic Voltaic Potential) by TLG-team
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2017, 05:22:36 PM »
Dear Mr. Chet.

Indeed North Wales, United Kingdom, close to the Dee estuary but I too am unwilling to provide a National Grid reference for obvious reasons.

Dear Mr. Blue.

In the video entitled " Simple Seismology " my standard use Copper plated earth rods were placed in a North/NorthEast orientation at around 15 meters apart.

In the video entitled " Earth grid energy? " the same two rods were placed nearly North/South between 5&7 meters apart.

Being adept at " Dowsing " I found it quite easy to see the invisible grid and it's crossings this helped in finding the " sweet spots " so to speak.  ;)

Kind regards, Mr. Grum. :)

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Re: Light Source from MVP (Magnetic Voltaic Potential) by TLG-team
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2017, 06:07:12 PM »
Dear Mr. Grum

1. In your ground-rod experiments, did you detect current flowing?

2. What do you think when some claimant asks you to report your location, but refuses to report his own?

3. Do you think it is possible to light up LED strings without any current flowing at all?

Kind regards,
Mr. Koala


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Re: Light Source from MVP (Magnetic Voltaic Potential) by TLG-team
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2017, 06:11:07 PM »
(snip)

I deliberately choose not to entertain Mr. Koala's questions and claims, because it serves no purpose whatsoever. I hope you can appreciate and respect my personal decision.

Kind regards.

In other words, you know your claim cannot withstand close scrutiny, so you "choose not to entertain" it. 

Perhaps you can at least enlighten us as to your definition of "OPEN SOURCE".

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Re: Light Source from MVP (Magnetic Voltaic Potential) by TLG-team
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