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#### guest1289

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##### Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« on: March 30, 2017, 12:50:27 AM »
Important Potential ?  Update To My  Magnet-Motor-3.5

I was  thinking/searching for potential reasons why my  Magnet-Motor-3.5  might not function( since I don't know if it does or not ),  I thought of a possible ? reason( that it could potentially ? go backwards, but that means it would function anyway ?, unless it would all balance ),  and made a modification to my design,  and have posted the  modified-design-diagram below as :
MAGNET-MOTOR - UPDATE.JPG
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The Simplest Proof That Free-Energy Can Be Attained From Gravity Via Momentum ?

- Use x-amount of energy to push a ball up a hill
- not only will the ball roll down that particular hill,  but also,  because of the momentum it has gained in rolling down the hill,  it will also roll up( how far? ) another identical hill, or up a different hill
-  I wonder if the total theoretical energy recoverable/gained?,  is more than  "x-amount of energy used to push the ball up the hill"
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Pelton-Wheel  Magnet-Motor Idea

Some time ago I posted my idea about a  magnet-motor  that could be based on the  pelton-wheels  that are commonly used on hydro-electric-generators
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelton_wheel

- IMPORTANT
- Instead of the  pelton-wheel  being made of  magnets,  it  could be made of a strong diamagnetic material like  pyrolytic-carbon/pyrolytic-graphite or  bismuth
IMPORTANT NOTE - According to a google search,  I think this was already designed and constructed using  pyrolytic-carbon/pyrolytic-graphite,  by someone else,  in the last couple of years,  so that would mean I did not invent that,  no surprise, it's such a simple idea.
However, I don't know if the device I found on the internet uses the  'offset-effect' to overcome sticky-points,  but it may,  I think it may use multiple-magnets to drive it, I will look at it later.

However, I was hoping to find a picture on the internet of a  pelton-wheel  with more than 2 rows of 'cups/half-balls',  and  'each'  row  should be  slightly  'Offset'  from the other rows,  in other words,  one that would sort of replicate the  'Offset-Effect'( to overcome sticky-points ) I use in my  magnet-motors  like in my Magnet-Motor-3.5( for example ),  although I used it in  magnet-motor  designs before that one.
But at the moment I can not find a picture of such a pelton-wheel.

Although,  you could just put a few wheels on the same shaft but slightly offset, out of synch, with each other.
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Magnet-Motor Concepts For Use In Gravity-Motors

I have noticed/wondered that maybe,  concepts used in many of my magnet-motors could possibly be used for  gravity-motors.
But now,  the only concept I can think of, used in any of my  magnet-motors  that could maybe be used as a basis for  gravity-motor  could my  magnet-motor in the diagram  below :
magnet-motor concept to gravity-motor.JPG

But then that would( almost sure ) be the same as all those other common  gravity-motor designs

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##### Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« on: March 30, 2017, 12:50:27 AM »

#### guest1289

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##### Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2017, 02:02:59 AM »

guest1289
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The Simplest Proof That Free-Energy Can Be Attained From Gravity Via Momentum ?

- Use x-amount of energy to push a ball up a hill
- not only will the ball roll down that particular hill,  but also,  because of the momentum it has gained in rolling down the hill,  it will also roll up( how far? ) another identical hill, or up a different hill
-  I wonder if the total theoretical energy recoverable/gained?,  is more than  "x-amount of energy used to push the ball up the hill"

I think there is probably no possible energy gain in the example above.

(  Flywheels : -  once flywheels are spinning,  they only need  input-energy  to maintain a certain speed,  they no longer need the initial  input-energy  to get them from not-moving - then to a certain speed  ,    at the moment I can't see if there definitely is or is not any possible energy gain there,  since it would all depend on the types of dynamos and pulsers( or motors ) that would be used,  and I may not even be correct in that last sentence   )
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guest1289
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Pelton-Wheel  Magnet-Motor Idea

Some time ago I posted my idea about a  magnet-motor  that could be based on the  pelton-wheels  that are commonly used on hydro-electric-generators
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelton_wheel

- IMPORTANT
- Instead of the  pelton-wheel  being made of  magnets,  it  could be made of a strong diamagnetic material like  pyrolytic-carbon/pyrolytic-graphite or  bismuth
IMPORTANT NOTE - According to a google search,  I think this was already designed and constructed using  pyrolytic-carbon/pyrolytic-graphite,  by someone else,  in the last couple of years,  so that would mean I did not invent that,  no surprise, it's such a simple idea.
However, I don't know if the device I found on the internet uses the  'offset-effect' to overcome sticky-points,  but it may,  I think it may use multiple-magnets to drive it, I will look at it later.

When I re-looked at what I found via a google search,  it seems that what I found does  not  utilize  Pelton-Wheel shapes ( but it does use pyrolytic-carbon/pyrolytic-graphite )
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Magnet-Motor Concepts For Use In Gravity-Motors

I later remembered that some  basic-principles  upon which my  Magnet-Motor-3.5 is based( which I had also used in  'at least'  one design prior to Magnet-Motor-3.5, 'or in more' ),  can also be the  basic-principles  of :
-  A Gravity-Motor . or
-  A Spring-Powered Motor

So keeping in mind the  basic-principles  upon which my Magnet-Motor-3.5  is based,  the  'diagram below'  shows my design for either :
-  A Gravity-Motor . or
-  A Spring-Powered Motor

That really makes wonder,  if the  'spring-powered-motor'  were to actually function successfully,  what could actually be the source of it's power down at an atomic/molecular-level,   could the  source  actually  be  the molecular-bonds  between atoms that cause the spring to always return back to it's original shape.
Then that made me wonder/realize,  that the source of power that could potentially be derived from magnets,  could also 'possibly' be  the molecular-bonds  between atoms that  cause the  atoms( electrons? ) in magnets to all align in the same direction,  or at least,  that is another way of looking at it.

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##### Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2017, 02:02:59 AM »

#### guest1289

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##### Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2017, 05:37:53 PM »
Solid-State Version Of My Magnet-Motor-3.5

Just posting it to post some general concepts,  I haven't thought of all the details, so I have no idea if such a device could ever run successfully .

A solid-state version of my magnet-motor-3.5,   obviously the aim being to permanently keep current flowing in the device,  and self-running.

The important component seems to be the  switch,  since in some versions of this device I hope the  switch  could  detect a  stronger-flux-path( stronger magnetic attraction ) in order to keep the device  switching from one  coil-core and to the next  coil-core.
It is that  very  switching action which would generate the current in the device,  so I assume the output would be made of pulses.

I would probably want to avoid using capacitors,  due to energy loss( electromotive-force out into the environment ?) when they discharge .

#### Zephir

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##### Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2017, 06:55:30 PM »
The problem is, the magnetic flux cannot be interrupted or switched - only conducted or scattered into a larger volume. But at the end all magnetic lines of force must get close somehow and the force between magnets will get restored in this way. Even the magnetic pipes ("flux path conductors" in your diagrams) will be quite complicated and they consist of alternating layers of ferromagnet and superconductor (which prohibits the spreading of magnetic lines of force into outside).

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##### Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2017, 06:55:30 PM »

#### guest1289

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##### Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2017, 08:26:56 PM »
I forgot to post  probably my  simplest  and maybe( or maybe not, I don't know ) most  important  idea for a Solid-State Version Of My Magnet-Motor-3.5

In the diagrams below,  diagrams 4.0, and 4.1,  if a single pulse of current is given to the coil,  then the  magnetic-field  emitted  by the  core or coil,  is attracted( or can be designed to be repelled ) away from the coil or core,  and towards the triangle-shaped  magnet or iron,  and because the  triangle is an  unsymmetrical type of shape ,   it may tend to  'progressively'( but obviously very fastly )  attract the emitted   magnetic-field( from the core or coil )  from the  weaker  end of triangle and to the stronger end of triangle,   in effect,   'creating more movement'  of the  magnetic-field  than  would  have occurred  by using  a  more  symmetrical shape( instead of the triangle ).
More movement of the  magnetic-field can often result in more energy generated.

My ideas for  solid-state  versions of my magnet-motor-3.5 are longshot ideas,  I'm only posting them in case they can be developed further.

In  diagrams 4.2, and 4.3,  the coil, or the core,  is put inside a  cone which is either a magnet, or is made of iron,  for the same effect as above .

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##### Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2017, 08:26:56 PM »

#### Zephir

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##### Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2017, 08:34:59 PM »
This is an electromagnetic analogy of magnetic ramp - just instead of magnetic sphere the electromagnetic coil is supposed to climb along gradient of magnetic field. It works, it just doesn't generate any overunity (if we ignore somewhat esoteric SMOT device, which wasn't proven yet)

#### dieter

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##### Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2017, 11:12:35 PM »
I like your example with the ball rolling down the hill. Basicly every football is an overunity device.

But gravity isn't directly substitutable by magnetism. As there is no repelling in gravity.

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##### Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2017, 11:12:35 PM »

#### guest1289

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##### Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2017, 08:26:37 PM »
Zephir
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The problem is, the magnetic flux cannot be interrupted or switched - only conducted or scattered into a larger volume. But at the end all magnetic lines of force must get close somehow and the force between magnets will get restored in this way. Even the magnetic pipes ("flux path conductors" in your diagrams) will be quite complicated and they consist of alternating layers of ferromagnet and superconductor (which prohibits the spreading of magnetic lines of force into outside).

Yes, those are the types of details I have not worked out

I'm mostly posting  overly-general-concepts   for a  Solid-State version of my  "Magnet-Motor-3.5",  rather than how specific components like the  'switch' would function

The  'flux-path-conductors' I drew on the diagram are part of a  'component'  in the design that tries to  'maximize'  the strength of each pulse,  I don't know if it would work as designed,  anyone could replace them with a simpler design

The  component  I drew containing the  'coil-with-core' and the 'flux-path-conductor'  are either a copy of  dieter 's  'pulsed-motor design'( the version of his motor I commented on ), or where I got the idea,  I just added a  'switch'( a 'switch' that I'm not sure how it would function )
Note :  Dieter 's  'pulsed-motor design'  already had the switch,  but in that motor it was the rotor

Note : "Magnetic pipes" / "flux path conductors",     I wonder if  a  'long-cylinder-donut-magnet'  can  conduct  the  magnetic-field  of another  magnet through it's hollow,  keeping in mind that  'magnetic-sphere'( monopole generator )  device built at the university in barcelona

I only drew "Magnetic pipes" / "flux path conductors" because of dieter 's  'pulsed-motor design'( the version of his motor I commented on ),   I just assume that if anyone  were ever to build anything relating to my designs that they would replace any  unworkable components/concepts,   with   workable components/concepts
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dieter
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I like your example with the ball rolling down the hill. Basicly every football is an overunity device.

But gravity isn't directly substitutable by magnetism. As there is no repelling in gravity.

In my diagram,  in a previous post above in this thread,  I posted the diagram :
'GRAVITY, OR SPRING, POWERED MOTOR.JPG'

I then realized that in that diagram,  it would actually be the  'gravity/mass-powered-version'  that would be much more likely to function,  rather than the  'spring-powered-version',   because when the  spring  expands its force gets weaker,  unlike gravity which would never vary in strength in that device

You could say gravity has N and S poles ,  when an object is going against gravity, or when it's falling

if you read the beginning of this post,  you'll see that I mention that I either copied or adapted( I added a 'switch')  the  version of your  pulsed-motor  that I had commented on,  I doubt that either you or I care,  since all these designs go nowhere
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I have just remembered the main reason why I think that a  'solid-state-version' of my  'magnet-motor-3.5'  could have some small chance of functioning

In the 2 diagrams below,  at the bottom of each diagram there is a time measurement ruler,  if you look above the ruler you will see multiple rows of coils

-  Each row of coils is slightly offset from the other rows,  which means that different  rows?/coils?  would pulse at different points in time from the other  rows?/coils?

-  That is the primary justification for having so many coils and / or seperate rows-of-coils,  it is just like the  'numerous'  stators  and  'multiple'  rotor  'components in my   'magnet-motor-3.5'

The  offset / un-synchronized pulsing between the different  rows?/coils?,   would mean that   'at any one point in time',    when a coil(coils ) is pulsed,   it provides the energy to activate a  pulse for another  coil(coils ) that is presently not being pulsed,   that is the exact method by which the  sticky-points in this  'solid-state-version' of my  'magnet-motor-3.5' are overcome

Of the 2  diagrams / versions below,  maybe only the diagram/version containing the triangle shapes would provide the necessary  electromagnetic-propulsion that would keep this device going/self-running

#### guest1289

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##### Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2017, 09:38:56 PM »
dieter had said on another thread that if you put a  '1-tesla'-neodymium-magnet  onto a piece of iron( of identical size ?/ shape ? ) ,  that you will then have 2-tesla ?

( it may have been the thread about 'simple experiments' to prove overunity via magnets  )

Is that accurate / correct / precise  ?

If it is correct,  then look at the 2 diagrams below,  is there any possibility for energy amplification if you maybe change the  core  shapes to squares instead of rectangles,  or whatever other modifications could be made

#### guest1289

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##### Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2017, 09:38:09 PM »
This post is just to post some things,  rather than needing any information

The Bifilar Pancake Coil
- Maybe if it was made as a long cylinder,  instead of as a pancake, it could maybe generate more energy,  and block the ends of with pyrolytic-carbon/pyrolytic-graphite or  bismuth,  or with magnets,  to ensure as much as possible is reflected back into coil

- And if it was made as a donut with some sort of diode component/effect,  then the energy would be continuously re-cycled
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Gravity-Shielding
Gravity-Shielding ideas usually involve things like spinning superconductors, and/or electrical-flow
But what about those forces between protons and neutrons that keep them together
At close distance, those forces between protons and neutrons are enough to keep them together,  but maybe if you add up that total force in a mass, then that may explain the effect of gravity at long distances,  I wonder if it was theoretically possible to remove all the electrons( and? electromotive-force? ) from a material,  maybe it could be a gravity-shield.
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The Loss Of Energy When Capacitors Discharge
When capacitors discharge, apparently they lose 50% of their energy into the environment,  I assume as electromotive-force and  heat
What about encasing capacitors in  pyrolytic-carbon/pyrolytic-graphite or  bismuth, or inside magnets,  to reflect the lost energy back into the device.
Although maybe it would cause them to melt.
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A Completely Shielded Electrical Circuit
Using  pyrolytic-carbon/pyrolytic-graphite or  bismuth, or  magnets,  to completly encase an electrical-circuit,  to reflect as much as possible lost energy back into the circuit

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##### Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2017, 09:38:09 PM »

#### guest1289

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##### Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2017, 08:52:53 PM »

We know that adding  permanent-magnets  to an  electric-motor increases the speed/torque, and I read that the 'percentage' of the increase in the speed/torque decreases with the more magnets you add,  and I also read that according to a member on this site, that that problem( that the 'percentage' of the increase in the speed/torque decreases with the more magnets you add ) does not apply to solenoids/electromagnets.

So, for a  DC-motor/Faraday-type-motor, I wonder if the   'diagram-below' ,   would be a  method to  add  permanent-magnets  to a  DC-motor/Faraday-type-motor  without the problem of [ "the 'percentage' of the increase in the speed/torque decreases with the more magnets you add" )
In the   'diagram-below' ,  the grey-cylinders are cylinder-magnets( could be made of individual disk-magnets )  and the light-blue-cylinder is a  DC electrical-conductor( solid or hollow ).
So theoretically( according to my unproven idea ) you could keep making the grey-cylinders and the light-blue-cylinder longer and longer,  and each time you do,  you gain more speed/torque.

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Spring-Powered-Version  Of My  Magnet-Motor-3.5

My diagram on a previous post in this thread :
GRAVITY, OR SPRING, POWERED MOTOR.JPG
contains both a  Gravity-powered-version,  and a Spring-powered-version,  of my  Magnet-Motor-3.5
I then came to a conclusion that the  Spring-powered-version  'may' have even less chance of functioning than I thought,  because the force from a spring decreases as it expands.
So, my solution would be to add another  'Identical-Spring' to each  spring-powered-moving-component,  However,  the 2nd-'Identical-Spring'  would  pull  down the  spring-powered-moving-component  while  the  1st-spring  in the spring-powered-moving-component is  pushing  the  spring-powered-moving-component down,  this way,  there will be no loss of spring-force as the spring expands.
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Gravity

My possible explanation for what gravity is,  is that floating particles of Aether are  'on-average' like grid-points throughout the universe.
So, on something like a proton, when one these Aether-Grid-Points touches a proton, it briefly? sticks to it through a  surface-tension-effect( like water-surface-effect, or casimir-effect, or magnets ) and then these Aether-Grid-Points form lines between the proton and any other relevant particles,  but to form those lines,  other particles of  Aether  float in to fill the gaps between the Aether-Grid-Points,  to form solid lines, with all the  particles of this  gravity-line made of Aether held together by the  surface-tension-effect( like water-surface-effect, or casimir-effect, or magnets )
However,  then those lines of gravity would be so dense that they would out-weigh any other matter
So, my explanation is that those lines of gravity form and collapse continually,  so fast that they don't form matter
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Pelton Wheel Magnus-Effect / Pelton Wheel Flettner Aircraft
Simply my idea is to either add Pelton-Wheel like scoops to these rotating cylinders, or just add raised bumps, for whatever advantage
I wonder if they actually misunderstand how this effect works,  I'm looking at the first diagram on the wikipedia-page for the Magnus-Effect,  and I wonder if what actually happens is that as the  bottom-cylinder-surface  rotates( at the exact horizontal instance of it's rotation )  'towards' the air,  it therefore creates more friction than the  top-cylinder-surface( which rotates 'away from' the air),  the result being lift.
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I had not taken sufficient notice before that the Bessler-Wheel/wheels have pendulum-type-devices( and other things ) linked to his devices/wheels, and not hidden from view
The last incident of a fake-device hand-driven by a shaft through a wall may very well have occurred,  but it does not mean all his machines were fake, the designs would have been very hard to fine-tune to get them working, so he may failed on his last design.
The  pendulums( and whatever else ) linked to his wheels could have been to break the symmetry of gravity?,  by linking the propulsion/momentum from the pendulumsl( and whatever else ) sitting outside the wheel,  to the propulsion/momentum emitted by the devices hidden inside the wheels,  in other words,  the momentum/proplulsion  from  two very different types of  devices/structures  with  different properties,  when  connected / interlinked,  break the the symmetry of gravity?
The  pendulumsl( and whatever else ) sitting outside the wheels,  and linked to his wheels,  could have been a method to overcome the  sticky-points  of the device/devices hidden inside the wheels.
It is possible that the device/devices hidden inside the wheels were either just the well-known older designs by previous-inventors,  things like balls or swinging-levers,  or,  that they were just devices designed to create noise to make people think that the secret was hidden inside the wheels,  when in fact the secret to his devices was in full open view all along.

#### guest1289

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##### Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2017, 09:36:08 PM »
I forgot to add in that post above I made just now,  that maybe a reason why scientists can't get their maths to add up regarding  mass-anomalies of the universe or is it gravity-anomalies of the universe  is because of an unequal distribution(density?) of Aether in different parts of the universe,  in reference to my theory I posted in the post above
on the outermost areas of the universe it could be logical that there would be less aether ,  although there would be all sorts of other factors also causing unequal distribution(density?) of Aether in different areas
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Also, it would seem that  All-Permanent-Magnet-'Full'-Levitation  does in fact seem to be connected  directly/or,-not-completely-directly  to a method of overunity,  otherwise you would see it posted

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##### Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2017, 09:36:08 PM »

#### guest1289

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##### Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2017, 02:58:45 PM »
Can electric-currents flow in a wire or any conductor in both directions at the same time.
(  can 2 DC-currents flow in a wire( or any conductor) in both directions at the same time )

NOTE : For the following, I know that coaxial-cable is made of 2 separate conductors,  the central-wire, and the metallic-shield( which also has current running through )

Some time ago,  I had found a webpage claiming that in antennas/coaxial-cable, I can't remember if it was antennas or coaxial-cable,  that it is known that  DC-electric-current flows through them in both directions at the same time.

I can see some logic that that may be possible in antennas, since current is not  forced through them in 2 directions at the same time,  rather,  that the antenna  receives only as much as it can from the air,   and if there is any type of current that is fed from the tv/radio to the antenna, then that is the only current that is forced through it ,  therefore,  the antenna could naturally balances how much current it allows to pass in both directions at the same time.

But then there's the problem inductance,
[   I think,  that when a DC-current flows through a wire,
- that it is the inductance-effect which causes the wire to emit an electromagnetic-field,
-  that it is the same inductance-effect that allows a  current-carrying-wire  to  induce an electric-current in a 'separate'  previously non-current-carrying wire,
that   "causes a wire( which is not being induced ) to emit an electromagnetic-field  when a DC-current flows  it     ]

- So that if  2 DC-currents  were to flow in a wire( or any conductor) in both directions at the same time,  then it would also be their  'electromagnetic-fields'  that would be colliding ' inside, and outside of the wire or antenna ,  which would make it even more difficult to occur.

My theory I have just typed above, about :
"that when a DC-current flows through a wire,
- that it is the inductance-effect which causes the wire to emit an electromagnetic-field"

could possibly be tested using a single strand/wire of graphene( instead of the normal graphene mesh ),  since a single strand/wire of graphene would only be 1-atom-thick( have a cross-section of 1-atom )
,  although at this stage it is getting too complicated/advanced for me to think about, or at least for now anyway

EDIT :  Any suitable  electrically-conductive  material could be used instead of graphene, as long as it's only 1-atom-thick( have a cross-section of 1-atom )
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In my post :   "Reply #10 on: April 12, 2017, 08:52:53 PM"  I forgot to add the diagram for :
Quote
We know that adding  permanent-magnets  to an  electric-motor increases the speed/torque, and I read that the 'percentage' of the increase in the speed/torque decreases with the more magnets you add,  and I also read that according to a member on this site, that that problem( that the 'percentage' of the increase in the speed/torque decreases with the more magnets you add ) does not apply to solenoids/electromagnets.

So, for a  DC-motor/Faraday-type-motor, I wonder if the   'diagram-below' ,   would be a  method to  add  permanent-magnets  to a  DC-motor/Faraday-type-motor  without the problem of [ "the 'percentage' of the increase in the speed/torque decreases with the more magnets you add" )
In the   'diagram-below' ,  the grey-cylinders are cylinder-magnets( could be made of individual disk-magnets )  and the light-blue-cylinder is a  DC electrical-conductor( solid or hollow ).
So theoretically( according to my unproven idea ) you could keep making the grey-cylinders and the light-blue-cylinder longer and longer,  and each time you do,  you gain more speed/torque.

So the diagram for that post is below .
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#### guest1289

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##### Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2017, 03:47:53 PM »
Thinking of different ways to achieve  propulsion( rotation, or any propulsion ) via electromagnetic-fields( generated from electricity ) acting against permanent-magnets,

Or,  via electromagnetic-fields( generated from electricity ) acting against any other forces,  like for example,  against electric-fields from electrets

Or,  via  permanent-magnets acting against  electric-fields  from electrets

In the diagram below, the central-grey spheres are  permanent-disk-magnets,  and they are surrounded by a  loop-of-DC-current,  or by a   half-loop-of-DC-current  in the second version

I don't know if the diagram produces any rotation,  but the reason I have drawn it is to try and visualize the  electric-field  emitted by the  loop-of-DC-current( or by a half-loop in the second version ),  to try and see if it should cause any rotation.

I have read on this site, and on other places on the internet that  electric-fields  and  the  magnetic-fields  from  permanent-magnets  do in fact interact, in terms of achieving a propulsion effect,  it's definitely something I have found almost no information about

Another possibility for that diagram could be to replace the  central-grey spheres which are  permanent-disk-magnets,  with  electrets

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##### Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
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#### guest1289

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##### Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2017, 08:37:20 PM »
I avoid including advanced electronics or integrated-circuits in the designs I post on this site, since there are often simpler ways of achieving the same effects, and/or I have little knowledge of electronics/IC's

In previous posts on this thread I posted my  design/designs  for a  solid-state  version of my  magnet-motor-3.5,  and in those designs I could have used  a  sequential-switching-component,  to switch from one coil  and to the next coil  and to the next coil  etc
Maybe a  'jacob's ladder' spark-gap  type device  could be the sequential-switching-component,  and if a device like that could be miniaturized then maybe it could be a future electronics-component like  capacitors/diodes/resistors

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##### Re: Magnetic, And, Gravity, Motor, Update, And Notes
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2017, 08:37:20 PM »