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Author Topic: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS  (Read 13971 times)

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #90 on: April 18, 2017, 08:32:07 PM »
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I do appreciate your selflessness very much! But I don't understand the remark "DIAMETRIC RING MAGNET" in your diagram. Where this magnet should be located?

I think this is the answer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krQrhVmt0UQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri32jT5UQ5c

https://www.youtube.com/user/64298/videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=0

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #90 on: April 18, 2017, 08:32:07 PM »

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #91 on: April 18, 2017, 09:06:41 PM »
I think this is the answer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krQrhVmt0UQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri32jT5UQ5c

https://www.youtube.com/user/64298/videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=0

A diametric magnet can be a ring magnet and polarities are found on the rounded sides rather than the flat ends.  I use ring magnets as its easy to spin them from the center point hole.    K&J Magnetics and Magnets 4 less has them in different sizes and grades.


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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #92 on: April 18, 2017, 09:22:29 PM »
Did you try self-looped circuit already? It shouldn't be difficult with respect to performance given: instead of powering LED bulbs just try to power that USB wall adapter... ;-) BTW The neon bulb is sensitive to light - its ignition voltage strongly depends on illumination (photoeffect).

Such a result looks more realistic for me. The alleged surplus of 0.3234 watts will be probably measurement error of your wattmeter. These devices are calibrated for flat voltage source or harmonic sinus wave output - which your oscillator producing peaks trimmed with neon lamps definitely doesn't generate. Not to say, your wattmeter is designed for grid input - its precision will go down at low voltages.

I do appreciate your selflessness very much! But I don't understand the remark "DIAMETRIC RING MAGNET" in your diagram. Where this magnet should be located?
The main coil mentioned at your description is air core one. And I don't understand the meaning "INNER COIL / OUTER COIL" at your diagram.
I redrew your scheme for reference - please see bellow. Thank you for your explanation in advance!
  The DIAMETRIC RING MAGNET has polarities on its sides not the flat ends.  It should be placed directly over the air core coil and spun with a finger to start it spinning continuously with the circuit powered.
When you wind a air coil with two separate strands of wire you start your wind from the core (INNER) and wind you way outwards to the (OUTER) outside. Hope that clears things up.

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #93 on: April 18, 2017, 11:28:50 PM »
Hi all, this is not exactly like magnetmans setup, though has practical use value.
It is essentially a joule thief oscillator type, using a ferrite TV flyback c-core.
It is using 4 watts of input power from a 12 volt tractor battery.
Here is short video showing lighting level. 5 led bulbs are lighted, 2 are together towards the back.
https://youtu.be/C3vl1w62aaU
peace love light


Hello Skywatcher123,

I actually love the simplicity of your setup as well as your video. Thanks very much. I would like to replicate your design but first could you please guide me through the following first steps:

Is there an alternative for the ferrite flyback core? Am thinking of using bi-filiar air coil with a minimum of 100mm internal diameter. What specifications of the magnet wire would you recommend? Length, resistance, size of wire e.t.c. which would work efficiently in place of the ferrite flyback core?
Secondly, Would your setup as it is support 220V LED lamps or are their any modifications that must be made on the components?

Thanks in earnest anticipation for your reply

Naija


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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #94 on: April 19, 2017, 02:01:21 AM »
Hello, magnetman

and thank You for your reply, albeit it sounds quite intriguing for me..:) Your power enhancer behaves a bit like the Bedini motor or something similar. According to this video the brightness of LED bulbs and voltage at input doesn't change, once you stop the magnet, but the current consumption of your device increases from 0.94 to 1.28 A or so. Which meaning the magnet rotation actually has under such a situation?

Thank You for Your support!

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #94 on: April 19, 2017, 02:01:21 AM »
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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #95 on: April 19, 2017, 05:36:48 AM »
Hello, magnetman

and thank You for your reply, albeit it sounds quite intriguing for me..:) Your power enhancer behaves a bit like the Bedini motor or something similar. According to this video the brightness of LED bulbs and voltage at input doesn't change, once you stop the magnet, but the current consumption of your device increases from 0.94 to 1.28 A or so. Which meaning the magnet rotation actually has under such a situation?

Thank You for Your support!
  I have made many changes to simplify the setup since 'this video' was made. No need for hi voltage to power it.  Now I only use  5 volts and a little over 1 amp. The magnet rotation draws more current but is not needed once the bulbs in this case are lit. Then the magnet can be stopped.  The newer bulbs I am using now don't require a magnet or magnet spin at all.

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #96 on: April 20, 2017, 01:18:12 AM »
Hi all, Hi magnetman, i ordered some more led bulbs to be sure i have extra just in case, plus i wanted to have the same amount of bulbs you are using.
Here is the link.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/252338553207?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AITI

peace love light

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #96 on: April 20, 2017, 01:18:12 AM »
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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #97 on: April 20, 2017, 04:26:56 AM »
Hi naija, i just noticed your reply, thanks for the kind words.
It works fine with an air core, i would use 24 awg. magnet wire or the telephone wire like magnetman, if you can't get any magnet wire.
I would also use the brooks coil geometry for an air core coil, i didn't, because i wound it for the option to slide in my ferrite c-core.
The components shown or equivalent should be fine, since the capacitor shown has high enough voltage rating and those 220 volt led bulbs will be using less amperage.
The only question is, will the led bulbs you use work properly with the circuit, if not, you may need to remove the inner circuitry and just drive the leds directly with the diode/capacitor output.
I plan to use the 12 volt led bulbs i should be getting in mail soon and also plan to more closely build the magnetman circuit.
peace love light

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #98 on: April 20, 2017, 06:48:04 PM »
Hi naija, i just noticed your reply, thanks for the kind words.
It works fine with an air core, i would use 24 awg. magnet wire or the telephone wire like magnetman, if you can't get any magnet wire.
I would also use the brooks coil geometry for an air core coil, i didn't, because i wound it for the option to slide in my ferrite c-core.
The components shown or equivalent should be fine, since the capacitor shown has high enough voltage rating and those 220 volt led bulbs will be using less amperage.
The only question is, will the led bulbs you use work properly with the circuit, if not, you may need to remove the inner circuitry and just drive the leds directly with the diode/capacitor output.
I plan to use the 12 volt led bulbs i should be getting in mail soon and also plan to more closely build the magnetman circuit.
peace love light
I just got the very large USB power adapter in and tried it.    5.08 volts shows at its output but strangely  the output across the circuit capacitor C1 shows 1.55 volts and climbing with all 8 bulbs burning very  brightly.  The USB  adapter is cold to the touch. (Orange LUMSING WITH 2 USB PORTS)   I am happy.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0132X03ZS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Here is what the spool and 1000 ft. of cross connect 2 strand wire looks like. Must cut down to 740 ft. size.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Roll-of-General-Wire-cross-connect-2-C-24AWG-1000-wire/252875098432?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D40130%26meid%3D281358708da24f73a9348a5ceead02c8%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D172624728257

Want B7A neon bulbs?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Box-of-10-Neon-Bulb-NE45-B7A-Indicator-105-to-125-Volts-AC-DC-/162458540245?hash=item25d34898d5:g:XaQAAOSwA29Y5Cd9

Want 80 ohm automobile relay?  Use pins 85/86 for direct coil contact.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Herko-Bosch-Style-4-PIN-Blade-Post-Relays-SPST-80-Ohm-NO-40A-14VDC-NC-30A-14VDC-/360919592949?hash=item54087beff5:g:mHIAAOSwmLlYAA9T&vxp=mtr
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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #99 on: April 21, 2017, 08:13:28 AM »
Added another bulb.  63 watts now powered by 5 volt  USB adapter. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYfbgapZYhc

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #100 on: April 21, 2017, 09:16:42 AM »
Hi Magnetman, this is all very impressive at the first look - but could you please measure the actual current drawn from your USB adapter with digital multimeter? Normal USB port allows only 1 A so that no more than 5 watts should appear at its output. But the cheap Chinese powerbanks lack the overload protection, so that the actual current can be much higher. Also the nominal power load of your LEDS (7 watts each) may not correspond their actual load at all. Tomorrow I'll try to complete more professional documentation of your project from this forum - as there is still lotta white spots in my understanding of your circuit. 

For example it's not clear for me, how the air core coil gets actually wired into your circuit. Do you use both colored wires in parallel?
Thank You indeed for your reply in advance.

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #101 on: April 21, 2017, 04:08:19 PM »
Hi naija, i just noticed your reply, thanks for the kind words.
It works fine with an air core, i would use 24 awg. magnet wire or the telephone wire like magnetman, if you can't get any magnet wire.
I would also use the brooks coil geometry for an air core coil, i didn't, because i wound it for the option to slide in my ferrite c-core.
The components shown or equivalent should be fine, since the capacitor shown has high enough voltage rating and those 220 volt led bulbs will be using less amperage.
The only question is, will the led bulbs you use work properly with the circuit, if not, you may need to remove the inner circuitry and just drive the leds directly with the diode/capacitor output.
I plan to use the 12 volt led bulbs i should be getting in mail soon and also plan to more closely build the magnetman circuit.
peace love light

Thanks Skywatcher for the clarifications.


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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #102 on: April 21, 2017, 04:14:01 PM »
Added another bulb.  63 watts now powered by 5 volt  USB adapter. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYfbgapZYhc

Hi Magnetman,

Your work is fast becoming an attention grabber, 63W of light power from probably a little more than 5W of dc power! Am starting to collate the materials needed to replicate your work EXACTLY. Thanks for sharing this idea. While sourcing the materials for this, I came across two types of 1k 0.5w potentiometer, one has a rated working voltage of 50V while the other has rated maximum voltage of 500V; which of these will you recommend?

Please may I know if your circuit can also run a 12 vdc fan of say 30 - 60W capacity at full power?

Thanks in earnest anticipation of your response

Naija

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #103 on: April 21, 2017, 09:14:08 PM »
Hi Magnetman,

Your work is fast becoming an attention grabber, 63W of light power from probably a little more than 5W of dc power! Am starting to collate the materials needed to replicate your work EXACTLY. Thanks for sharing this idea. While sourcing the materials for this, I came across two types of 1k 0.5w potentiometer, one has a rated working voltage of 50V while the other has rated maximum voltage of 500V; which of these will you recommend?

Please may I know if your circuit can also run a 12 vdc fan of say 30 - 60W capacity at full power?

Thanks in earnest anticipation of your response

Naija
   Hi Naija,
Be sure the pot is a linear taper pot. Not audio taper.   Here is what I used:  This particular dealer sells both the 1K  and 10 k pots.  In your case either will work if its linear taper.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-x-B10K-10K-OHM-Linear-Taper-Rotary-Potentiometers-10KB-POT-USA-SELLER-/321751755624?hash=item4ae9e62b68:g:O-0AAOSwhwdVT9td

I gave up exploring what the setup will do with 12 volts after using the 5 volt wall type USB  adapter. Currently I am powering  nine-- seven watt -- 12 volt led bulbs totals 63 watts.  All lamps are brightly lit for some strange reason so I guess I will push on and see how many more can be lit the same way.  My Lumsing USB wall power adapter is rated at 5 volts at 3.4 amps.  THATS  17 WATTS DRIVING 63 WATTS??  CRAZY!!   The USB power adapter runs cold to the touch after long use!  Should I call this a power assister circuit??  Open for a good name.


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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #104 on: April 21, 2017, 09:55:34 PM »
Should I call this a power assister circuit??  Open for a good name.

Thanks very much man; whatever you choose to call this circuit, just make sure it's got your name on it! This invention can immortalize you!

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