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Author Topic: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS  (Read 13972 times)

Offline magnetman12003

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3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« on: March 29, 2017, 01:46:43 AM »
What do you think of my setup?  A single 3.7 volt battery is inside the USB phone charger.  5 volts output from this charger go into my setup and then it delivers output power enough to light up 8 (non dimmable) 12 volt 7 watt bulbs.
That's 56 watts !  First- this is not over unity. Maybe free energy??  Call it a power assist.  Leave comments on the You Tube video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHoUj9ZQae8

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2017, 02:20:56 AM »
Try to self-loop the circuit and you'll see...


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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2017, 04:52:00 AM »
1. Power is not energy.
2. A nameplate or box value does not mean that the bulb or other device always draws that amount of power.
3. "Undimmable" does not mean that the bulbs cannot shine at reduced brightness.
4. Visual impressions of brightness are nearly worthless as "measurements".
5. Power is not energy, and it is entirely possible for a battery like yours to deliver hundreds of watts or even more. Try shorting the terminals with a piece of wire and see what happens.

Carry on, keep experimenting, study and learn.

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2017, 08:04:44 PM »
Try to self-loop the circuit and you'll see...

My circuit is self looped  The negative input is connected DIRECTLY to the negative output.


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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2017, 08:49:40 PM »
1. Power is not energy.
2. A nameplate or box value does not mean that the bulb or other device always draws that amount of power.
3. "Undimmable" does not mean that the bulbs cannot shine at reduced brightness.
4. Visual impressions of brightness are nearly worthless as "measurements".
5. Power is not energy, and it is entirely possible for a battery like yours to deliver hundreds of watts or even more. Try shorting the terminals with a piece of wire and see what happens.

Carry on, keep experimenting, study and learn.
  With my bulbs lit I am showing 30 milli volts feeding all eight  7 watt bulbs.  So I take it that the setup is producing enormous amperage to keep the bulbs burning??

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2017, 08:49:40 PM »
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Offline magnetman12003

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2017, 09:27:36 PM »
1. Power is not energy.
2. A nameplate or box value does not mean that the bulb or other device always draws that amount of power.
3. "Undimmable" does not mean that the bulbs cannot shine at reduced brightness.
4. Visual impressions of brightness are nearly worthless as "measurements".
5. Power is not energy, and it is entirely possible for a battery like yours to deliver hundreds of watts or even more. Try shorting the terminals with a piece of wire and see what happens.

Carry on, keep experimenting, study and learn.
  I did short the wires while experimenting and after a very loud stinking crack I found I had
blown up my new wattmeter..  The circuit however still is working.  LOTS OF CURRENT!

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2017, 12:44:31 AM »
My circuit is self looped  The negative input is connected DIRECTLY to the negative output.

Hi Thomas,

Just because of the negative input is connected to the negative output, your circuit is not self looped. This is not enough condition for self looping.
I assume your setup creates around 12V DC output that feeds directly the 8 LED lamps, right?

What is needed for self looping in your case is to use an efficient DC-DC step down converter, see what I mean:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/222366957908    there are many types, this is cheap and free shipping and yet seems suitable.

Such converter receives any DC input between 4.5V and 24V and has a potmeter-adjustable output voltage range between 0.18V and 17V and output current max 3A. The negative input is internally connected to the negative output as is the case for any non-isolated type converters.

So you could feed your 12 V output from your setup to the input of such DC-DC converter and the output of this converter would be connected to the 5V input of your setup via a series diode placed in the positive output of the step down converter.
And when you have connected like this, you could completely remove the 5 V phone charger that presently includes the 3.7V battery and see whether your setup continues feeding the lamps or bogs down.
This would be a correct and true self looping and you could experience first hand whether your setup is really able to maintain operation and feed the lamps under a looped back condition.

Before doing the self loop, you may wish to remove say 7 LED lamps out of the 8, this low-load condition would make it easier for your setup to "focus on" feeding the load coming from the step down converter the moment you close the loop.

I made a block diagram for you to show a possible looped wiring for the whole setup. Red lines are the positive rails and blacks are the common negative ones.  Diode D is needed to separate the 5V output of the phone charger from the 5V output of the step down converter to avoid mutual loading of the 5V outputs. When you have done the looping and removed the phone charger and the setup continues feeding the lamps, the D diode is not needed any more, it is a temporary component while the 5V output of the phone charger is present.
You need to adjust the output voltage of the step down converter in advance to roughly 5.6V when you feed its input from a 12V wall plug adapter. Diode should be able to handle 3 Amper at least, here is a suggestion:  http://www.futurlec.com/Diodes/1N5401pr.shtml 

If you have questions, please ask.  If you do the looping, please report back what you experienced.

Gyula

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2017, 12:44:31 AM »
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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2017, 01:48:05 AM »
Hi all, hi magnetman, will you share the circuit for this please.
peace love light

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2017, 12:01:11 AM »
I have the same setup being powered by a 12 volt wall wart.  To keep voltage constant.
Here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o30z1iHDZa8


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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2017, 05:04:42 AM »
Hi magnetman, thanks for sharing, though will you share the circuit drawing and details.
I mean, if you will share them freely to a corporation, etc. then why not share them here, so people can benefit from your device.
peace love light

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2017, 06:14:17 AM »
Hi magnetman, thanks for sharing, though will you share the circuit drawing and details.
I mean, if you will share them freely to a corporation, etc. then why not share them here, so people can benefit from your device.
peace love light

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2017, 06:06:52 AM »
Hi magnetman, thank you for sharing.
The only part i have a question about, is the SCR.
I't looks like the only way the primary coils flyback can couple with the led bulbs, is through the SCR, triggered by the neon.
Just wondering what frequency the SCR is dumping the capacitor across the led bulb loads.
I assume it is fairly often to help boost the light output significantly more than typical.
This looks likes a boost converter, main difference being the capacitor dump function.
I have these 2.8 watt ikea gutted led bulbs, though i don't think they are 12 volt, because 8 volts dc brings them to their full rated input wattage, so i would need to get some 12 volt led bulbs also to test this design.
Are you using this same type of capacitor dump circuit with your 3.7 volt input version, because that would be easier for me to replicate based on parts i have right now.
Thanks for any help.
peace love light


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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2017, 02:52:04 AM »
thanks for sharing!

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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2017, 06:18:30 AM »
Hi magnetman, thank you for sharing.
The only part i have a question about, is the SCR.
I't looks like the only way the primary coils flyback can couple with the led bulbs, is through the SCR, triggered by the neon.
Just wondering what frequency the SCR is dumping the capacitor across the led bulb loads.
I assume it is fairly often to help boost the light output significantly more than typical.
This looks likes a boost converter, main difference being the capacitor dump function.
I have these 2.8 watt ikea gutted led bulbs, though i don't think they are 12 volt, because 8 volts dc brings them to their full rated input wattage, so i would need to get some 12 volt led bulbs also to test this design.
Are you using this same type of capacitor dump circuit with your 3.7 volt input version, because that would be easier for me to replicate based on parts i have right now.
Thanks for any help.
peace love light
   I used the very  same circuit for the 3.7  volt input version and the 12 volt input version.
My new DC watt meter only meters voltage from 6 volts to 100 volts. That's why you don't see it when I was experimenting with the 3.7 to 5 volt  setup.  The watt meter is present and correctly connected when I was experimenting with the 12 volt  wall wart power. That's to be sure voltage did not decay like battery voltage would do.   You can use this circuit with 24 volts also but be sure your 12 volt bulbs are series (2) connected together.  You will spend hours having fun with this HYBRID circuit   I never had it fail on me yet  Did get shocked when I was careless.  Once again be careful !      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o30z1iHDZa8


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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2017, 05:44:59 PM »
Thanks for the video. So the twisted coil is plastic coated wire. Fotos and Vids of the actual device help a lot.


Now, where to get such a SCR, are they expensive?


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Re: 3.7 VOLT BATTERY POWERS 56 WATTS
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