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Offline NKE

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Re: Home Nucler Reactor class 180
« Reply #45 on: April 07, 2017, 09:25:45 PM »
More stories from the land of 1000 nights.  ::)

HERE PLEASE ARE YOUR DATES:
1. dT = 30.0 degree by 300 L tank/hour = 10.50 kWh heat
2. Actual mechanical power on the shaft = 75% of nominal 7.5 kW =  5.625 kW
3. The actual engine efficiency 63% = 9.17 kWh power consumption
4. Total efficiency 1:3 = 114.5% 
5. Head mechanical efficiency 1:2 = 186.7%

Enough?  :(

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Re: Home Nucler Reactor class 180
« Reply #45 on: April 07, 2017, 09:25:45 PM »

Offline ramset

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Re: Home Nucler Reactor class 180
« Reply #46 on: April 07, 2017, 11:01:50 PM »
I'm going to need help on this one , I have never run an almost 10KW [or 9.17] calibrated  load.. also your motor measurements ??

But looks like I should be able to calculate and run a control ...

thank you very much [I think.... ;D

and yes I will do it once I am certain we are on the same page and it is fare to you and the science 
and I can muster an 80 gallon tank [should be able to find one around here ??
or weld two drums up

Thx

Chet

@NKE
what is this head? [ultimate ??] ----- >>>> --- Head mechanical efficiency 1:2 = 186.7
also
how much insulation on the tank ,plus ambient temp where tank is



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Re: Home Nucler Reactor class 180
« Reply #47 on: April 08, 2017, 12:03:10 AM »
Workhead alone efficency: heat to mechanical input power = 187%.

Offline Floor

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Re: Home Nucler Reactor class 180
« Reply #48 on: April 08, 2017, 05:58:05 PM »
@Ramset

      I notice that you .... Mr. ambassador / Mr. diplomacy ....  have made no comment upon
     the tone of Tinsel koalas' (the former king of disruption)  above postings,,humm. 
     
      And honestly, I am glad to see that TK has regained at least  some of his former
     self  restraint..
..............................
      Quote from ramset
"regarding the build at the other forum, most members do not like having to
build elsewhere"
     End quote

         Build it twice or present it here ? 
         I would get more eyes on it here than at OUR, wouldn't it ?
         
          I don't blame any one for not prresenting here.  This is often
          a tuff venue.   But also a very dynamic, and creative venue.
         
         The trade off,  OU research springs from here...may be validated
         or ... invalidated there.  Or the other way around.. but mostly not.
         The two each play their roles / should not try to become the other.

      Quote from ramset
"its just over here the moderation is a problem [no offence to Stefan he is a hero
for keeping this going as a one man band."
     End quote

        By problem you meant,  for Stephan ?  But It seems to me that also you are
implying that there is not enough moderation here.

There are times (I think) when most here, have wished for more moderation of
the topics.  But I truly respect the way Stephan handles it.

      Quotes from ramset
"and over at OUR Peter is also keeping a fulltime job going and trying to run a forum"

" [which is completely dedicated to open source] " 
     End quote

"Completely dedicated to it "

         I believe this , but just,  not completely open source.

      Quotes from ramset
" ,he does not even allow advertising on his site " 
     End quotes

                                       But his books have been advertised on this forum, while you
                                       advertise that forum itself here.
http://overunity.com/16987/td-replications/msg500765/#msg500765

                                        I don't want to be bothered with advertisements.
                                        But also the lack of them is no proof of some kind of
                                        a noble intent.

"but also had to close membership because of BOT attacks." 

                                          Was no other solution  possible ?

"ultimately it is hoped that moderation can be instilled here by volunteers who have good history ...[slow process]"

      Quotes from ramset
@ Floor

"the people and their work speak for themselves! 
               
                                     Post some of those OU devices over here will you ?

"Moderation here as you mention is really not preferred [or it would have been done already"

                     This statement (below) is a non sequitur.

"moderation anywhere is not preferred ,and this is the very reason persons who actually spend a lot of their valuable time and resources to build and share chose to work in a venue with men of like mind."

"an open source Venue."

                                Look I don't doubt the "OUR" site is well intended / motivated and ultimately
                                has the goal to  open source.

"too many people will come and say argumentative// accusatory??..disruptive  things [like your post above] whenever they get a whim [bored or Drunk OR ??]"

"it has proven to be the case time and time again."

QUOTE FROM RAMSET
moderation anywhere is not preferred ,and this is the very reason persons who actually spend a lot of their valuable time and resources to build and share
chose to work in a venue with men of like mind.
END QUOTE

                                       What ? 
.............................
QUOTE FROM RAMSET
too many people will come and say argumentative// accusatory??..disruptive  things [like your post above] whenever they get a whim [bored or Drunk OR ??]
END QUOTE

      Are you saying that, your statement (above) is not itself, any of those things it describes  ?
                                                 "[bored or Drunk OR ??] "


                      regards
                          floor


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Re: Home Nucler Reactor class 180
« Reply #49 on: April 08, 2017, 06:33:03 PM »
floor
I know we all speak different languages here ,and honestly being from NYC [the melting pot of the world]

I can usually work my way thru a post from almost anybody here ,and honestly ,I understand your comment

HOWEVER
you have wires crossed on Peter's forum [over unity research
he sells Nothing

and

NOTHING>>>>NOTHING [incase you missed the first nothing

is not for open source
Peter is very very stiff with this rule [me too and others]

Peter wants to grow the science and the What ifs ??

I think you mixed up Aaron's forum [energetic forum]
  there he runs a business ,not my concern everybody knows this.
no comment from me

Re Tinsel
I have grown to Hug Tinsel when he shows up not throw stones ,he does have issues here with old fights from persons who say they can fly ??

but it will all work out in the end [empirical testing of all claims whenever possible by multiple persons or builders.

RE Moderation here
I will never tell a man who does the work [a builder] that he must put up with abuse here ?
and not go off to a quiet spot to work with less noise on open source projects [example over unity research forum

so yes there is a problem here, you do not build so you have no perspective of the huge commitment it takes from a mans life and time  .

it all looks funny to you ??

not funny at all
common sense actually !

@NKE
I am discussing your project with calorimetry guys [just to be fair to your claim
I want to see if I can scale it down a bit so I don't have to cook so much water [300 liters]

should not be an issue at all [scaling down

just to be certain

respectfully
Chet K


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Re: Home Nucler Reactor class 180
« Reply #49 on: April 08, 2017, 06:33:03 PM »
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Offline NKE

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Re: Home Nucler Reactor class 180
« Reply #50 on: April 08, 2017, 08:31:48 PM »
You can simply heat a smaller tank shorter time.

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Re: Home Nucler Reactor class 180
« Reply #51 on: April 08, 2017, 08:45:56 PM »
Quote
The interesting thing about a centrifugal pump is that as you restrict the discharge side of the pump the power requirement from the driving source goes DOWN.  However the turbulence inside the pump causes the liquid to heat up.  I have seen water from a fire truck come out steaming because someone forgot to leave at least one discharge line open to allow a flow of water through the pump.  I am not so certain that heating water this way is the most efficient way to do it but I know it does work.

The cavitation heaters are certainly a thing of these days - Infinity SAV Team also has some in their portfolio. IMO they're closely related to electromagnetic overunity devices, except that they utilize real bubbles instead of ferromagnetic domains. Interesting thing is, they're often connected with nuclear fusion and transmutations in similar way like BrilliantLight, Energoniva or Zorographos devices.

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Re: Home Nucler Reactor class 180
« Reply #51 on: April 08, 2017, 08:45:56 PM »
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Offline NKE

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Re: Home Nucler Reactor class 180
« Reply #52 on: April 08, 2017, 09:02:18 PM »
The reaction which propels the unit is this:  1H+1H+e(-) = 2D+ve+1,953 MeV
where ve neutrino is.
More about this reaction, only in polish: http://nke.salon24.pl/759138,o-zimnej-syntezie-jadrowej

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Re: Home Nucler Reactor class 180
« Reply #53 on: April 09, 2017, 03:32:34 AM »
HHMMmm
Zephir
You would have no way of knowing this...[or maybe you would??]
I do indeed have a weakness for the cavitation in water...
and experiments there.

especially  cavity resonator's...

you post lots of interesting things, but you're more like an infomercial ,do you have personal experience or contacts with any of these claims?
@ NKE 
will hopefully get an OK on your test in the next day or two [from measurement expert
I am sure there will be some questions first.[will post them here]

thanks
Chet

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Re: Home Nucler Reactor class 180
« Reply #54 on: April 09, 2017, 06:47:04 AM »
@Ramset

Quote from Ramset
"you do not build so you have no perspective of the huge commitment it takes from a mans life and time"
END QUOTE

                   not true

http://overunity.com/14311/work-from-2-magnets-19-output-2/dlattach/attach/133573/
http://overunity.com/14311/work-from-2-magnets-19-output-2/dlattach/attach/133572/
http://overunity.com/14311/work-from-2-magnets-19-output-2/msg488465/#msg488465
http://overunity.com/14311/work-from-2-magnets-19-output-2/msg487779/#msg487779

AND A DIFFERENT KIND OF BUILD (STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS)

http://overunity.com/16954/magnets-motion-and-measurement/dlattach/attach/161439/

                 AND MANY OYHERS

              floor

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Re: Home Nucler Reactor class 180
« Reply #54 on: April 09, 2017, 06:47:04 AM »
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Re: Home Nucler Reactor class 180
« Reply #55 on: April 09, 2017, 07:39:28 AM »
@Ramset

Quote from ramset
"I can usually work my way thru a post from almost anybody here ,and honestly ,I understand your comment"
END Quote

                 Reading might help you work through those posts.....
                                    because
                No, honestly, you did not understand. 
                You understood NOTHING. I'll repeat that for you.
                         
                              (Quote from ramset  "[incase you missed the first nothing" END quote)
                                         
                                                     You understood NOTHING.

Quote from ramset
"HOWEVER
you have wires crossed on Peter's forum [over unity research
he sells Nothing"
END Quote
                         
                         No it is you who has have crossed the wrong wires this time.

                        Are you an idiot ?  I did not say he did on his forum. I said his book
                        was sold on this forum.

Now please don't next,  say that I called you an idiot.  It may seem to you, that I
have implied that, as it seems, you have implied this of me, when you said
                 
                        "NOTHING>>>>NOTHING [incase you missed the first nothing".
But I did not call you an idiot.  No need for that.

Try to be a little more honest / use less subterfuge  next time you respond to me please.
I don't respect the lack of honesty, nor subterfuge.

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Re: Home Nucler Reactor class 180
« Reply #56 on: April 09, 2017, 10:47:43 AM »
Floor


Sorry I had a mental block on your handle and your posting was completely out of character
 for the man I am use to reading here [who demands respect of his threads

That and the fact I Had detached retina surgery last month and my mind is very worried and distracted about the future.

a PM would have been much better ??

I honestly had you confused with another member [eastern European]
and that is the truth  :-[

why did you come so aggressively here ?
did I ever treat you poorly somewhere ... anywhere ??

IMO
you are a champion of open source research and Peter is a champion too
for supporting all of Overunityresearch from his own pocket ..

please show me where Peter sells  anything at his forum
or links to any products?
or advertises to help pay for the forum??
I honestly am completely unaware of this ??


this has taken a big turn [for me]  now that I know who you are

I apologize regardless for my behavior above...[when I thought you were some one else who never posted an experiment here .

Chet K





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Re: Home Nucler Reactor class 180
« Reply #57 on: April 09, 2017, 11:05:26 AM »
http://www.mainebiz.biz/article/20130827/NEWS06/130829948/inventor-tests-new-heating-device-at-usm
https://www.google.com/patents/US9389004

Cavitation heater for warm rooms and hot water

NKE alias Dr.Novak : Nuclear ,koennte sonst mit Nuckler missverstanden werden :P ::) ;D

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Re: Home Nucler Reactor class 180
« Reply #58 on: April 09, 2017, 12:16:38 PM »
With only a very few exceptions cavitation is something to be avoided.  It is very harmful to the pumping mechanism.  It also creates a lot of noise and high loads on the driving force.

I was called to look at a motor in our plating shop that was kicking out the overload breakers.  The motor was new and was driving a new pump that was pumping acid.  Some engineer that didn't know what he was doing had specified the same size pipe for the inlet as the outlet.  On all centrifugal pumps the inlet pipe should be larger than the outlet pipe to allow the fluid to flow at a slower speed coming in than going out.  Cavitation is caused by trying to pump out the liquid faster than it can come it.

In addition to kicking out the breakers the pump was making a loud rumbling noise that could be heard from several feet away.  I recognized the rumbling as soon as I heard it.  To try and stop the noise someone had turned back the intake valve restricting the intake even more.  This only caused more noise and kicked the breaker even faster.  I checked the current draw and it was about twice what the oveload breakers were rated for.  I opened the intake valve all the way and started closing the discharge valve.  When I had closed the discharge a small amount the noise immediately stopped.  When I then checked the current draw it was well below the overload breakers rating.

Here is an engineering article about cavitation:
http://engineering.wikia.com/wiki/Cavitation

Respectfully,
Carroll


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Re: Home Nucler Reactor class 180
« Reply #59 on: April 09, 2017, 03:08:39 PM »
@Ramset

Thank you for being the first (between the two of us) to
make peace / offer appology.  __it happens

Honsetly, I was about to do the same.

No worries, no harm done to me, and I hope none was done to you.

Quote from ramset

please show me where Peter sells  anything at his forum
or links to any products?
or advertises to help pay for the forum??
I honestly am completely unaware of this ??

End Quote

Maybe peter doesn't ?  I don't see his books advertised here.
I was certain they were, maybe they were in the past ?
No matter.

Sorry for my insults and inuendo, you didn't deserve that.

           kind regards
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Re: Home Nucler Reactor class 180
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