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Offline markdansie

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Re: Government suppression of Free Energy
« Reply #45 on: April 04, 2017, 06:07:37 AM »
Good question! I'm very interested to see if Elon Musk's solar home roof plan takes off. It's it true that so far solar power hasn't taken down big oil? Honestly I've lost count over the years how many people have voiced their disappointment on solar power. A decade ago I thought for sure solar panels were going to explode in popularity. I live in sunny california, but yet I don't know of a single house around here that has solar panels. Sad.

Hopefully Elon Musk can do it. Time will tell. If he succeeds, then that answers one of my questions if people have been killed to stop what most people at this site are trying to achieve. If big oil is not trying to suppress free energy, then I have a 2nd question. Is the government trying to suppress the actual physics behind such technology. The hell with free energy. Maybe big brother don't care about big oil. Maybe big brother knows about the physics that's beyond quantum physics. All I know is that I would be afraid to death to try to publish such technology. I used to be concerned that this tech could be used to develop weapons of mass destruction for terrorists. Lately I've decided, what the hell. This endless game is getting old. Humanity is about to leave this nest that we call Earth. We'll survive. Let it all rip. There will always be wars. It seems the harder one tries to avoid problems the more trouble they find, no?

In short, let it flow. Best advice someone ever gave me.


Some good advice you were given
The extent solar energy has been taken up is dependent on government policy and the will of the people. In many countries like South Australia over 20% of the houses have solar PV, wind power accounts for anotehr 30% of the power and huge solar farms are being constructed as well. In countries like Germany, China, solar is also being expanded at a exponential rate. I am perhaps an optimist.
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Re: Government suppression of Free Energy
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Re: Government suppression of Free Energy
« Reply #46 on: April 04, 2017, 06:13:01 AM »
Is that you Mark, you know Ken K and used to go along to ASTRO SA years ago?

I agree with your last post except on Tesla. The technology that you say is being revived to today for charging cell phones and inductive charging EV’s and your toothbrush, isn’t really what Tesla did or had in mind for the mode of operation with his apparatus. It is basically 180 degrees the other way, it’s the reflected displacement current (neutral terminal) which Tesla used to transmit power via the Earth. Using this mode of operation & resonant “pings” with the Earth itself, this seemed to couple his system with the electrical circuit of the Earth itself. – So that additional energy was then extracted via his apparatus. – But that additional energy didn’t come from no-where, it came from the Earth itself. So that was the source of the so called free energy.

It’s finding free sources to tap into via our technology. Maybe there are unknown, untapped sources yet to discover?

Sure, it isn’t necessarily government suppression, (unless it has military uses) but big business, & corporations. “They” lead research because they have the funding and resources to do so, but it is often not brought to market. It wouldn’t be so, or to bring quick change to the world except for the likes of Elon, pushing the cart forwards faster than others would like. – So now "they" have to copy and move faster to keep up, or become left behind. - Technology that would drastically & quickly change things is held back by corporations (and regulated via governments) - It’s a very, very slow drip feed that’s allowed and that is all.

Sputins.



I know Ken K but I think it was another Mark that went to the Astro meetings


I agree there may be unknown sources to be tapped into.


I am happy to be corrected on Tesla. I was not aware of my studies where he claimed to be getting and energy gain. Please direct me to those studies or patents of his.


I think South Australia is a good example of the uptake of renewable energy. They have problems but it is a remarkable achievement so far., Cheap energy storage will promote expedential grown in free energy technologies.


Kind Regards
Mark
 
 
   


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Re: Government suppression of Free Energy
« Reply #47 on: April 04, 2017, 06:41:25 AM »
South Australia over 20% of the houses have solar PV
That caught my attention. Are you talking about actual homes that have solar panels, or just that they buy power that comes from solar farms? So I really wanted to know which took me to google since they seem to have the latest sky photos. Here's a photo of Port Lincoln (South Australia), Australia. It looked like the biggest city I could quickly see in hopes it would be likely to have solar panels on the homes. But I don't see a single home there would solar panels lol. If you know of a city that has even close to 20% then please let me know. I'm seriously trying to find out if this suppression stuff is correct or at least partially correct. So far it seems odd to me that even solar powered homes are a rarity.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Port+Lincoln+SA+5606,+Australia/@-34.7327764,135.8504315,246m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x6aa7589e5be8c7f3:0xdb7e79993dfad0d8!2sSouth+Australia,+Australia!3b1!8m2!3d-30.0002315!4d136.2091547!3m4!1s0x6aabc3c4c226fb85:0x5033654628eff00!8m2!3d-34.7280697!4d135.8514404

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Re: Government suppression of Free Energy
« Reply #48 on: April 04, 2017, 07:32:33 AM »
Is that you Mark, you know Ken K and used to go along to ASTRO SA years ago?

I agree with your last post except on Tesla. The technology that you say is being revived to today for charging cell phones and inductive charging EV’s and your toothbrush, isn’t really what Tesla did or had in mind for the mode of operation with his apparatus. It is basically 180 degrees the other way, it’s the reflected displacement current (neutral terminal) which Tesla used to transmit power via the Earth. Using this mode of operation & resonant “pings” with the Earth itself, this seemed to couple his system with the electrical circuit of the Earth itself. – So that additional energy was then extracted via his apparatus. – But that additional energy didn’t come from no-where, it came from the Earth itself. So that was the source of the so called free energy.

It’s finding free sources to tap into via our technology. Maybe there are unknown, untapped sources yet to discover?

Sure, it isn’t necessarily government suppression, (unless it has military uses) but big business, & corporations. “They” lead research because they have the funding and resources to do so, but it is often not brought to market. It wouldn’t be so, or to bring quick change to the world except for the likes of Elon, pushing the cart forwards faster than others would like. – So now "they" have to copy and move faster to keep up, or become left behind. - Technology that would drastically & quickly change things is held back by corporations (and regulated via governments) - It’s a very, very slow drip feed that’s allowed and that is all.

Sputins.


 
 
   
I have not seen any words from Tesla stating he got any "extra" energy from the Earth. In fact I include a quote From a pre trial interview where
he states he could run a 10000 hp plant with no more loss than 100 hp. Still a loss. Please show proof of Tesla actually stating the existence of
some extra energy from his transmitter.

Below is a quote from the book- "Tesla on his work with alternating currents". The Quote I took is a not far below figure 82, third paragraph
about half way through.

Link- http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/nt_on_ac.htm#043

Quote
Theoretically, it does not take much effort to maintain the earth in electrical vibration.  I have, in fact, worked out a plant of 10,000 horse-power which would operate with no bigger loss than 1 percent of the whole power applied; that is, with the exception of the frictional energy that is consumed in the rotation of the engines and the heating of the conductors, I would not lose more than 1 percent.  In other words, if I have a 10,000 horsepower plant, it would take only 100 horsepower to keep the earth vibrating so long as there is no energy taken out at any other place.

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Re: Government suppression of Free Energy
« Reply #49 on: April 04, 2017, 07:41:45 AM »
Hi Again


I hope the following is usefull

its actually over 20% PV on household roofs. My niece is one of them with a 2.5 kw system.
In addition they have over 30% of the electricity generated by wind and the last coal fired power station is shutting down in the next 18 months.


They have also just announced the worlds largest solar + battery storage farm in the world.
http://reneweconomy.com.au/worlds-biggest-solar-battery-storage-plant-ready-to-build-in-sa-63777/


On a good day in summer they have met 100% of their energy needs using renewable energy.


The state government also has put our a tender for 100MW battery storage. (Elon Musk offered to do it in 100 days)


The federal government has proposed a pumped hydro scheme to allow more renewable energy options (2000MW)


Basically they are on track to eventually get 100% renewable energy. They just need more storage . The largest city there called Adelaide is offering subsidies to put in storage for householders like the power walls.


Like I said its about the will of the people and good government policy


Kind Regards
Mark

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Re: Government suppression of Free Energy
« Reply #50 on: April 04, 2017, 09:59:57 AM »
I have not seen any words from Tesla stating he got any "extra" energy from the Earth. In fact I include a quote From a pre trial interview where
he states he could run a 10000 hp plant with no more loss than 100 hp. Still a loss. Please show proof of Tesla actually stating the existence of
some extra energy from his transmitter.
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I read up on Tesla a lot and can not recall where he ever claimed extra energy. He did claim 97% plus efficiency.
He was his own worse enemy when it came to commerce, either not following up on commercialization of his own patents and he tore up the Westinghouse royalty agreement. They were happy to pay a royalty, they just wanted a reasonable rate.
"Tesla was grateful to Westinghouse for believing in him when no one else would. By tearing up the contract and relinquishing his royalties, Tesla single-handedly saved the Westinghouse Electric company. In return, Westinghouse paid Tesla a $216,000 lump sum for the right to use his AC patents in perpetuity (that's worth roughly $5.4 million today)."[/font][/size]

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Re: Government suppression of Free Energy
« Reply #51 on: April 04, 2017, 03:09:12 PM »
Tesla never said that excess energy comes from his magnifying transmitter or single wire transmission. He said once that there are two methods of obtaining energy from ambient medium. That's what he did.

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« Reply #52 on: April 04, 2017, 04:21:47 PM »
Tesla allegedly constructed multiple overunity devices, for example the car. Supported by the Pierce-Arrow Co. and General Electric in 1931, Tesla took the gasoline engine from a new Pierce-Arrow and replaced it with an 80-horsepowerelectric motor with no external power source. At a local radio supply shop he bought 12 vacuum tubes, some wires and assorted resistors, and assembled them in a circuit box 24 inches long, 12 inches wide and 6 inches high, with a pair of 3-inch rods sticking out. Getting into the car with the circuit box in the front seat beside him, he pushed the rods in, announced, “We now have power,” and proceeded to test drive the car for a full week, often at speeds of up to 90 mph. His car was never plugged into any electrical receptacle for a recharge.

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« Reply #53 on: April 04, 2017, 04:52:43 PM »
Getting into the car with the circuit box in the front seat beside him, he pushed the rods in, announced, “We now have power,” and proceeded to test drive the car for a full week, often at speeds of up to 90 mph. His car was never plugged into any electrical receptacle for a recharge.

There's probably some truth to that account although it seems over time some facts got distorted. The reason for my reply is that design of two rods (I recall they were parallel to each other) has the two magic ingredients, C & L in one.

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Re: Government suppression of Free Energy
« Reply #54 on: April 04, 2017, 07:22:17 PM »
Tesla allegedly constructed multiple overunity devices, for example the car. Supported by the Pierce-Arrow Co. and General Electric in 1931, Tesla took the gasoline engine from a new Pierce-Arrow and replaced it with an 80-horsepowerelectric motor with no external power source. At a local radio supply shop he bought 12 vacuum tubes, some wires and assorted resistors, and assembled them in a circuit box 24 inches long, 12 inches wide and 6 inches high, with a pair of 3-inch rods sticking out. Getting into the car with the circuit box in the front seat beside him, he pushed the rods in, announced, “We now have power,” and proceeded to test drive the car for a full week, often at speeds of up to 90 mph. His car was never plugged into any electrical receptacle for a recharge.
Startegic bomber B-2 works upon same concept of electrogravity.

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Re: Government suppression of Free Energy
« Reply #55 on: April 04, 2017, 07:28:07 PM »
"allegedly" Tesla did ... fill in the blank.
I have never seen an analysis of the potential harmful effect to the earth of Tesla's ideas of using the earth the way it was proposed.

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« Reply #56 on: April 05, 2017, 02:54:33 AM »
So I have to ask everyone's honest opinion on a hypothetical question. What do you think Elon Musk would say if I went to SpaceX or Tesla and handed him a legit solid-state self-running fist size device that produces a kilowatt non-stop?

a) Kick me out of the building
b) Laugh at me
c) Call the MIBs
d) Write me a big check
e) Say he doesn't have time to look at it
f) Ask me to leave it there for his team analyze it
g) Other


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« Reply #57 on: April 05, 2017, 05:10:25 AM »
I think it would be a number of those in the following order:

B, then E, then say, “no wait”, F, then A, then C.

I just finished listening to someone with the opinion that there are two realms here, “our realm” and the other the “classified realm” when dealing with new technology.

Free energy, in whatever form won’t be allowed into our realm until there is total surveillance and control over the masses, which is now close to being achieved, hence the allowance and acceptance of renewable (free) energy is now ever increasing, but so is the surveillance. – (This was not my opinion, only relaying what was said to me, but is sounds about right to me).

It would be great to know about the technology existing within the classified realm – but it’s classified. I’m sure any successful attempt that uncovers the principals of operation or replicates devices within the classified realm, would be met with a large sledge hammer of various flavours, so to speak.
 

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« Reply #58 on: April 05, 2017, 06:19:46 AM »
I think it would be a number of those in the following order:

B, then E, then say, “no wait”, F, then A, then C.
LOL I figured it would be something complex like that. After all Elon's a complex kinda guy. An insider told me that he can be very cold at times. I'm glad he's alive, though. I went to SpaceX, once. The parking lot guy gave me a hard time for getting to close to the standing rocket outside. Not sure if I could even get within a 100 foot radius of Elon. I wouldn't bring the device at first for fear they might take it and call the cops on me. Maybe there's a front desk? So I would walk up to the desk:

Me: (clears throat) ... (engine revving) ... Excuse me, I have a device the size of my fist that can run forever by itself. It can power your refrigerator.
Front desk lady: (nervously twitches) Oh. That's nice, hun....How can I help you?
Me: I'd like to see Elon Musk.
Front desk lady: You need to call and make an appointment.
Me: I don't want to talk about the device over the phone. The government announced they have computers listening for key words.
Front desk lady: (takes a few steps backward) Hold on while I call someone. .... Magnus, I have a guy at the desk. Code 73.
Me: (waiting, nervously) (suddenly I see a 7 foot 350 lb. mountain body builder walking my way) Oh that's okay. I'll come back later.





I just finished listening to someone with the opinion that there are two realms here, “our realm” and the other the “classified realm” when dealing with new technology.

Free energy, in whatever form won’t be allowed into our realm until there is total surveillance and control over the masses, which is now close to being achieved, hence the allowance and acceptance of renewable (free) energy is now ever increasing, but so is the surveillance. – (This was not my opinion, only relaying what was said to me, but is sounds about right to me).

It would be great to know about the technology existing within the classified realm – but it’s classified. I’m sure any successful attempt that uncovers the principals of operation or replicates devices within the classified realm, would be met with a large sledge hammer of various flavours, so to speak.
Interesting. That reminds me of Simulation theory and the various Matrix theories, which I'm a huge fan of. Mainstream is researching Simulation hypothesis, which many say should now be a theory. I personally think it's unlikely that it's anything like our modern day computers, but me and other academics believe we are most likely existing in some sort of simulation even if it is more like an analog/digital combo type of simulation.


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Re: Government suppression of Free Energy
« Reply #59 on: April 05, 2017, 09:01:16 AM »

The state government also has put our a tender for 100MW battery storage. (Elon Musk offered to do it in 100 days)

Basically they are on track to eventually get 100% renewable energy. They just need more storage . The largest city there called Adelaide is offering subsidies to put in storage for householders like the power walls.

Like I said its about the will of the people and good government policy

Kind Regards
Mark

Yes, but Elon however didn’t speak to the state politicians… Elon speaks directly to the Prime Minister, that’s how he rolls…

Depending on what system the state gov were / are  offering up to $5K rebate on battery storage systems, at least that was what was the news 6 to 9 months ago or so. – So that is a big incentive to buy your own house hold solar and battery storage system.

Other countries I’ve heard are the opposite and have many dis-incentives towards stand-alone house hold power systems.

The term or concept of being "off-grid" is not really welcome either it would seem. They still want you to be connected to the grid…


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