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nelsonrochaa

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Re: Government suppression of Free Energy
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2017, 02:20:07 AM »
What makes you think the Tesla had a FREE ENERGY /OU project or even thought it was possible?
Of course governments have secrets, but there is no evidence of the feasibility of FREE ENERGY /OU.
Thorium is just another energy source, also known as 'fuel'.

The question is not if Tesla had or not a Free energy project . What i ask you is if this is not suppression ? The Government not confiscate only documents related with Tesla related work to government, but almost their documents related with other personal projects , and that is only one example.
I Know what is Thorium and is only one more source of energy like lot of others , but if some of this sources bump again mainly interest of already implemented sources because are more cheap to produce power ,that could be a problem to interests of some groups and governments, because means that all structure that sustain the actual world in Energy production  will not simple changed from a day to another because are much politic and financial interests involved,  just see the Nuclear energy , like a example ; even with the related danger associated to the production of energy by nuclear process what we see ?
 Did you see big countries dismantling their power plants in favor of security even after some terrible accidents that already happen ? No ! And why ? Because they already make huge investment to make that plants so i can not simple replace by a new  better option that appear .
All time the economic interest's will prevail , and that l the reason to continue exist suppression even in a more "friendly" way in our times .


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Re: Government suppression of Free Energy
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2017, 02:54:12 AM »
What makes you think the Tesla had a FREE ENERGY /OU project or even thought it was possible?
Of course governments have secrets, but there is no evidence of the feasibility of FREE ENERGY /OU.
Thorium is just another energy source, also known as 'fuel'.

It is a fuel and as such has a finite life. However if these batteries were widely available you could say goodbye to fossil fuels and the engines that use those fuels. There's a lot of governments, businesses and people affected by that.

Magluvin

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Re: Government suppression of Free Energy
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2017, 08:53:18 AM »
Its strange. The gov stresses that we need better battery technology and pay for it to be had, and it ends up a wash or sold to china. Batteries are good.  But the smaller they are with greater energy storage, the more dangerous. Ever see these vids of lith batts exploding in peoples pockets? Probably faulty, defective, junk or abuse, but the fireworks that come out of some guys pants and it looks like a huge prank. Lots of power in a little magic marker sized package.

Been working on some vape stuff for a guy. These 18650 lithium batts are pretty serious. The ones Im working on are 3ah(but they say 3000ma. ooo big numbers) ;D but deliver max 20a at 3.7v. The heater coil Im messing with is .2ohm. The transistor is pretty cool.  IRLB3034PbF.   40vmax 1.4mohm-1.7mohm on resistance.  and gobs of amps in a t0220 case.

They have smd transistors less than 1/4x1/4x1/16ht that can handle 150a and no heat sink. They use them in the digital control circuit boards with the little display in the fancy vape models.  It allows you to adjust the pwm to set the power to the coil. Some of these boards handle 250w. I see my friend drag a 30w shot and its a small cloud. At 60w its thick n big and lingers. 250w, take a drag and your head pops off I imagine. But looking around for simpler solutions, pwm or high current step up converters are mostly whats out there in info land.

So I did some experiments. A typical simple vape circuit has just a batt, coil in the oil tank, a push button, mosfet and maybe an on and off switch. The pos of the bat goes to the coil, the coil to the fet drain and the source goes to neg of battery.  The just use the push button to send pos to the gate and choke. I dont vape.

So I wanted to make just a simple setup with 2 buttons, a hi and lo button set.  In the simple circuit there is no pull down resistor on the gate, seems to do it internally.

So I tried a resistor on one button, not much diff.  Then added another resistor to ground to make a voltage divider and that lowered the output. Took a bit of tinkering and trials to get it right.  It seemed that when I used the voltage divider in diff ratios, at times I was getting more output than with direct + to the gate.. So one button had a divider of different level than the other. But anyway, it works. No fancy shmancy. no pwm 555, just resistors.

Sorry for goin off on a tangent of sorts.  These 18650 batts are interesting. Tesla uses Panasonics 18650 in their battery packs.  Each pack has 444 cells. Seen on ebay.

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Re: Government suppression of Free Energy
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2017, 10:16:44 AM »
IRLB3034PbF are good but if you need a mosfet logic level for 100V 10A ? I can't find any to replace tip transistors[/size]

Zephir

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Re: Government suppression of Free Energy
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2017, 12:34:32 PM »
PhysicsWorld staff (James Dacey) apparently doesn't handle discussions well... - all posts were deleted and article locked for discussion.
Just a few hours after even the team page of PhysicsWorld staff disappeared from the web too - it existed there for ten years!

Zephir

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Re: Government suppression of Free Energy
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2017, 12:54:35 PM »
I see mass of conspiracist calling the other conspiracist, in france, in US, in EU and else where...


AlainCo's definition of power is :

"whoever obtain a law in his direction"

"whoever can lie without being punished, even admit lying and not being accused of"

"whoever can fraud science, and still be referred by journalists as whistleblower"

"whoever is condemned for fraud to gain and can still be invited by an EU deputy to a conference, and defended by LeMonde, about an imaginary conspiracy endangering thousands of kids, in the middle of an epidemic having killed a dozen of kids befause of this myth convincing more and more people"

"whoever cannot be criticized without a 'how do you dare', you are 'paid by evil money'"

"whoever can convince a population of an imaginary fact, that thousands of scientific studies oppose"

"whoever sell an ideology that have killed 50 people, hospitalized thousands, refusing to amend it's practices, while making a scandal of fraud that wounded nobody"


The power is to the one who cannot be attacked. Thus, if we say who, we will be attacked.

Theoretical Research

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Re: Government suppression of Free Energy
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2017, 03:34:23 AM »
Found this article as well. Everyone here's probably seen it though.
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/energysuppression.htm

I think this is a crazy world I live in where one can't make money from a real self running mobile free energy device. But yet people can make billions of an improved battery.

What to do with your self runner? Looks like you just give it away, if you're lucky. Has anyone ever posted detailed circuit & instructions to build a simple self-running device? Just curious. If these mib who have so much power exist then why couldn't they just pull the server down or delete the post or something? Are we all enslaved and don't even know it?

Theoretical Research

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Re: Government suppression of Free Energy
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2017, 03:44:22 AM »
- Direct patents are right out if you want to retain your IP and work.  Your patent application can be sealed and you can be gagged with NSL's.  Not only will you not become a millionaire, but are now under surveillance and gagged from continuing your work.
https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/s115.html
https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/s120.html
  And with oil cartels embedded everywhere you can almost be guaranteed to get gagged going this route.
 - International patent authorities may have different restrictions on certain types of patents so that may be a possibility.
 - Patenting a system but disguising its true function may also be possible.


 - Licensing with a manufacturer might work if you can prove the technology and find a company to mass-produce them.  In the end you'd end up selling products that are technically OU but not sold as such.  Like Solar Panels that work in the dark or Wind Turbines that spin fast when there is almost no wind.  Or high efficiency battery chargers. ::)


- The Open-source Linux route is one possibility.  Release the tech, theory, and distribute prototypes in a way that encourages replication.  You get funding back by Paypal and Bitcoin, and by selling kits and support calls.


 - Anonymous/pseudonymous distribution is also a possibility.  Publish plans and diagrams on BitTorrent and add a bitcoin donation address.  If/when people replicate the tech and it really takes off, you might receive millions in donations even though nobody knows who you are.
  You can still use crypto+bitcoin to prove your identity continue to provide updates to the community, by signing files and messages the same way Wikileaks does.


  Whether you go with a public or anonymous route, they both carry risks.  If you just want to help the community and distribute the tech, I'd suggest helping out and just pointing people in the right direction in forums like these.  No announcement or fanfare, just try to spread the right ideas and get the rest of us all up-to-speed.

  Overunity in the end could be a solution to scarcity as we know it.  Currencies, governments, society as a whole undergoes a massive realignment when the world becomes flush in cheap *everything*.  What use then is making 10 million dollars in a world where money is meaningless?

Cool. crypto+bitcoin ? How secure is that? Wouldn't it be easy for government to find your location? Seems promising. can you transfer that into dollars or you have to spend your millions of bitcoins on coffee at cafes?

Theoretical Research

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Re: Government suppression of Free Energy
« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2017, 03:48:32 AM »
another. very good one. maybe one would be lucky to even get the device open sourced to the world?

http://www.siriusdisclosure.com/100000-star-challenge-and-award/

dieter

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Re: Government suppression of Free Energy
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2017, 09:24:07 PM »
"government" became a synonym for "conspiracy", at least here, in the "free" western countries, usa, eu and allies. They're not souvereign countries, but colonies of a network socially established sociopaths, giving us hell on earth.


After all it's the peoples guilt to be such cowards and not getting rid of those parasites.

Zephir

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Re: Government suppression of Free Energy
« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2017, 07:39:01 PM »
They're not souvereign countries, but colonies of a network socially established sociopaths, giving us hell on earth. After all it's the peoples guilt to be such cowards and not getting rid of those parasites.
It's not so simple. How could we get rid of Tinsel Koala for example? This is a model example.

memoryman

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Re: Government suppression of Free Energy
« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2017, 08:01:41 PM »
"How could we get rid of Tinsel Koala for example?" why would you want to? Are you afraid of the straight truth: governments do not suppress energy production from alternative sources (they often subsidize them) such as nuclear, wind, solar, wave and many more.
Of course you'll say: but FE threatens everything. FE (if it existed) would be just another business, with costs involved. If it is not competitive, it will disappear. The FREE part in FE only refers to the energy, not the infrastructure needed to make it viable in the market. The energy in oil, coal, natural gas and any other energy-medium is always FREE; it's the infrastructure needed (plus profit) that you are actually paying for.

Zephir

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Re: Government suppression of Free Energy
« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2017, 08:14:18 PM »
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governments do not suppress energy production from alternative sources (they often subsidize them) such as nuclear, wind, solar, wave and many more
I see, just another troll, who doesn't (want to) understand the difference between free energy and nuclear, solar (check his posts history, if you're on doubts)...

How could we get rid of him too?

memoryman

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Re: Government suppression of Free Energy
« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2017, 08:32:48 PM »
Just ignore us, if you are afraid of what we say.
As I said, FE requires just as much infrastructure as conventional energy source.
I am personally involved in what you would call 'FE', although I give it a different name. My concern is not: will it be suppressed or will I be killed, but : can it be scaled up so that it is commercially viable.
The FE cult harms the energy community by screaming SUPPRESSION, instead of demonstration that their contraptions WORK. Maybe YOU are the real trolls...

ramset

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Re: Government suppression of Free Energy
« Reply #29 on: April 03, 2017, 08:58:50 PM »
Zephir
I believe the language barrier may be involved in some of this.

@ regarding TinselKoala and how you are using this "quote".

What I know to be true is the quote is being taken out of "context" ,the context being that none of the circuits presented "HERE"
utilizing Pancake or other methods ...or any methods presented "HERE" have been shown to develop anomalies of any kind ..once thoroughly examined ,

nor has anyone ever presented anything from You tube or other sources which was shown to develop OU.

and for clarity I mean a clear presentation ..not a jumpy you tube Vid or other poorly supported  claim.

At this moment Tinsel is involved in an open source replication attempt of another idea presented here which may or may not pan out.
and he is also helping members here with Their replications of various claims

instead of lighting torches and throwing stones
it would be better if you would post some circuits here which you feel have been overlooked ...

as I said before
there will be replicators lined up out the door....the thirst is great !

respectfully
Chet K