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Author Topic: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency  (Read 138255 times)

Offline Magluvin

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1545 on: May 07, 2017, 05:26:56 AM »
Hey Carrol

I will check on the bags, thanks

These were 18650 cylinders. Ive seen the flat packs swell, but these not yet. After the PSSSSssss  there was a bubble on that cell about the dia of a dime and out about 1/4 in. After that it was looking ok, but after seeing vids on these doing just that I quickly decided to move it. If i had waited 5 seconds to find something to grab it with it would have done a lot more damage on the bench than I care to think about. Flames were shooting like 2ft in a couple directions on the floor after I dropped it and went on for like 10sec then just pop pop smoke pop smoke.  Funny I had a long sleeve white shirt with the sleeves pulled up just below the elbow. On the top of my arm below that is now a golf course. All hairs 1mm.  but the shirt was untouched.  So as it ended up it was worth the burn to avoid the damage it could have cost.  But that is not going to happen that way again or anything close to it in the future.

The cells were just bare cylinders where most all have that shrink plastic cover where usually the color of the wrap indicates the type of drain the thing is made for. Like i said we believe it was an older pack..The protection board is suppose to limit the charge and discharge and do a balance on series cells. So at times we have a battery that the batteries are at the low limit and when you try to read the voltage at the pigtail there is nada till it is charged up past the threshold and then you can read voltage and use till it breaches again. So this one was just that, nada and put on charge to test. 



These batteries and other high energy density power sources as we see them now and as they get smaller and more powerful in the future should be an encouragement to find what we are looking for here. Energy on demand without the huge storage components that when they are damaged or have some fault could light up a city block under the right conditions. Not saying that an FE device couldnt have its lets start a fire today episode, but I think with the right safety features, at least there could be a redundant shutdown, or even just good old fuses to shutter down, where the batteries, there isnt much you can do to stop what these batteries will do once the damage is done. Run forest run!!

I wonder if you charged a 300f 3.2v cap and hit it square with a sledge hammer what might go down. :o Like cap gun caps. 1 dot and bang. 1 roll with a hammer and your ears are ringin like never before and you feel the blast hit you and the hammer at times really bounces back up from the preasure.

Anyway enough of that and Thanks

mags

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Offline Erfinder

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1546 on: May 07, 2017, 08:33:26 AM »

Offline ramset

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1547 on: May 07, 2017, 03:39:46 PM »
Boom
Mags, Thanks for sharing your close call with The lithium ,a good reminder to all.

the work continues with the builders ...amazing group effort from the builders here.

what a privilege to read and wonderful to see.

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3445.450

I MUST ADD

this investigation is just getting started !!

stay tuned !!

respectfully
Chet K

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1548 on: May 07, 2017, 04:56:12 PM »
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« Last Edit: May 07, 2017, 11:53:11 PM by AlienGrey »

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1549 on: May 07, 2017, 05:13:22 PM »
Xee2 tested the inductance of the two different kinds of windings on ferrite cores and measured a 5% increase in the series bifilar in both low and high perm cores:
« Last Edit: May 07, 2017, 08:42:09 PM by synchro1 »

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1549 on: May 07, 2017, 05:13:22 PM »
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Offline Grumage

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1550 on: May 07, 2017, 05:15:27 PM »
Dear AlienGrey.

Would that be a Free Energy Device with Conformité Européenne??

Highly unlikely, they wouldn't know where to put the " sticker " !

Cheers Graham.

Offline ramset

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1551 on: May 07, 2017, 05:15:49 PM »
AG

Only been 7 years for you ?? [probably 50 or more for some reading here]
I do however feel your pain...

I think this is all going to change very shortly...perhaps the problems here
will diminish too when there is a clear path and especially when we can make better measurements ,and recognize true anomalies .

the only way to advance your position...is to actually know where you're standing.

and here in this thread [including OUR] the Builders have made some benchmark moments better defining where we stand.

respectfully
Chet K






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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1551 on: May 07, 2017, 05:15:49 PM »
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Offline Erfinder

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1552 on: May 07, 2017, 05:53:49 PM »

I think this is all going to change very shortly...perhaps the problems here
will diminish too when there is a clear path and especially when we can make better measurements ,and recognize true anomalies .


From a person whose bench I have never seen, you said a mouthful.....  This is a "free energy discussion forum", not a "lessons in proper measurement, led by those who claim to know but cannot agree on proper measurement practices forum".... 

the only way to advance your position...is to actually know where you're standing


I can no longer take you seriously.....

and here in this thread [including OUR] the Builders have made some benchmark moments better defining where we stand.

respectfully
Chet K


benchmark moments....  Ultron.....deliver the closing remarks to capt. Chet K......




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8E-S_Pue-Y




Offline ramset

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1553 on: May 07, 2017, 06:08:39 PM »
Erfinder

some folks have different paths , I can honestly say your position [ignore  measurement]
 has always confused me.

but from a very early age I was taught this method {aviation industry]
and I have found it saves lives [Material testing Lab experience]



and in this case ,the pancake thread experiments [ here and at OUR]
it has become imperative to make good measurements so as to know where one stands.

I would imagine even persons who seek investors will eventually have to cross that bridge to access funding?
but here we are open source !!

and so far ....in this thread
we have learned measuring is a good thing.

respectfully
Chet K


Offline Erfinder

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1554 on: May 07, 2017, 06:29:31 PM »
Erfinder

some folks have different paths , I can honestly say your position [ignore  measurement]
 has always confused me.


sad really.....you folk can't see without your aids....

but from a very early age I was taught this method {aviation industry]
and I have found it saves lives [Material testing Lab experience]


your past is part of the problem.....  its funny how you throw that saving lives bit in there....all that measuring after the fact, and countless lives have been and still are being still lost...

and in this case ,the pancake thread experiments [ here and at OUR]
it has become imperative to make good measurements so as to know where one stands.
 


sad....really sad.....a discussion of what "could" be happening is unwelcome....what matters is how skilled you are with your probes...

I would imagine even persons who seek investors will eventually have to cross that bridge to access funding?
but here we are open source !!

and so far ....in this thread
we have learned measuring is a good thing.

respectfully
Chet K


there it is....chasing the dollar....on an open source forum!?....that's why I don't believe in that shit....


so far the only thing that has been learned, yet again, is the best way to derail a thread is to get everyone to focus on PROPER MEASUREMENT!  Works like a charm everytime!  You would think that after 7+ years folk would be hip to this game you people play....

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
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Offline synchro1

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1555 on: May 07, 2017, 06:33:43 PM »
Below is Ampere's force law. We can see that lowering inductance will lower the magnetic force with the same current:

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1556 on: May 07, 2017, 06:44:31 PM »
well
there is no better time to lead by example

and yes it is not a topic to be taken lightly [open source OU]
as you say " countless lives are being lost and have been lost"

respectfully
Chet K


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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1557 on: May 07, 2017, 07:45:33 PM »
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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1558 on: May 07, 2017, 08:02:12 PM »
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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1559 on: May 07, 2017, 08:47:15 PM »
We know the higher inductance of the ferrite core series bifilar coil will result in a stronger magnetic field. We can measure this with a Gauss meter. We can convert the greater flux into an electrical power equivalent with the following formula: 3600 Joules per second will deliver 1 Tesla (10,000 Gauss) in a coil of 1 Henry of inductance. The result will equal the "Gain in Watts"!
« Last Edit: May 08, 2017, 12:28:50 AM by synchro1 »

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
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