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Author Topic: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency  (Read 114966 times)

Offline evostars

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The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« on: March 18, 2017, 09:49:26 PM »
The bifilar pancake coil, is a interesting coil. It has inductance, but more importantly it has increased capacitance, due to the high voltage difference between the coil windings. It looks like a coil that is a capacitor at the same time.

When the coil is freely resonanting at its resonant frequency, it produces a static magnetic field. At the same time it produces a dynamic dielectric field.

This dielectric field has interesting capabilities. it seems as if it has been stripped of the magnetic field component. It interacts with ground signals. It is able to transfer energy through one wire, and produces voltage in metal objects that are in the field (but not connected).

 I really feel that this is the pure form of electricity. And Im very curious about its properties.
I could not find solid info about it, so I started to do my own research. and I was amazed with the results. To fill the information void about this, i have started to make a video series about it.

https://youtu.be/xHDrmGPY-78  about the dielectric field of a bifilar coil
https://youtu.be/uhY27Zoor-Q  about the magnetic field of a bifilar coil (at resonance and DC)

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2017, 11:58:23 PM »
The bifilar pancake coil, is a interesting coil. It has inductance, but more importantly it has increased capacitance, due to the high voltage difference between the coil windings. It looks like a coil that is a capacitor at the same time.

When the coil is freely resonanting at its resonant frequency, it produces a static magnetic field. At the same time it produces a dynamic dielectric field.

This dielectric field has interesting capabilities. it seems as if it has been stripped of the magnetic field component. It interacts with ground signals. It is able to transfer energy through one wire, and produces voltage in metal objects that are in the field (but not connected).

 I really feel that this is the pure form of electricity. And Im very curious about its properties.


I could not find solid info about it, so I started to do my own research. and I was amazed with the results. To fill the information void about this, i have started to make a video series about it.

https://youtu.be/xHDrmGPY-78  about the dielectric field of a bifilar coil
https://youtu.be/uhY27Zoor-Q  about the magnetic field of a bifilar coil (at resonance and DC)


Hi ,
thanks for share your videos and your thoughts about that theme , myself have study some of the effects you enumerate an i  have some videos show exactly some of the effects that you talk .
If you are interesting to see something about that subject ;) i left some of my tests .

https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=XGyz31yaCdw
https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=J1wMalWqa7o
https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=fJ0roz9qz0g


cheers


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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2017, 12:30:41 AM »

Hi ,
thanks for share your videos and your thoughts about that theme , myself have study some of the effects you enumerate an i  have some videos show exactly some of the effects that you talk .
If you are interesting to see something about that subject ;) i left some of my tests .
cheers
Obrigado Nelsonrochaa!
I have looked at your videos. The radiant box is not clear to me. is it working with a resonant coil?

you seem to produce a lot of power!
I have not been able to convert the dielectric voltage into magnetic amperes, have you got a link to your research?

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2017, 12:48:08 AM »
Obrigado Nelsonrochaa!
I have looked at your videos. The radiant box is not clear to me. is it working with a resonant coil?

you seem to produce a lot of power!
I have not been able to convert the dielectric voltage into magnetic amperes, have you got a link to your research?

Hi Evostars ,
I thank you, the fact that you do something that I do not like to do:
Talk and explain in  my videos.  But you explained very well the important aspects to most of people understand the main idea .
Yes the radiant box use a stack of bifilar pancake coils with one resonant coil in middle of that stack of coils .
You could find a nice effect to if you want to test it . If you put a sheet of aluminum foil on top of your pancake if are properly tuned it will levitate the foil because diamagnetic properties of aluminum .
No i don't make any public research , but you could find some of my tests in my channel .
I hope you continue your explanations to probe to some folks that type of events are real and not bulshit .
One more time very thanks

cheers :

Nelson Rocha



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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2017, 01:01:37 AM »
Hi Evostars ,
I thank you, the fact that you do something that I do not like to do:
Talk and explain in  my videos.  But you explained very well the important aspects to most of people understand the main idea .
Yes the radiant box use a stack of bifilar pancake coils with one resonant coil in middle of that stack of coils .
You could find a nice effect to if you want to test it . If you put a sheet of aluminum foil on top of your pancake if are properly tuned it will levitate the foil because diamagnetic properties of aluminum .
No i don't make any public research , but you could find some of my tests in my channel .
I hope you continue your explanations to probe to some folks that type of events are real and not bulshit .
One more time very thanks
thanks!
Yes,  I've been researching and reading (ken wheeler, eric p dollard,  tesla,  Steinmetz,  Thomson  etc) for a while now. And i feel it's time to share my insights.

I have seen the influence of  aluminium foil(mirror)  on the resonant signal,  but i haven't seen it floating. I only work with low power settings so far. But I could a new coil,  and get a stronger dc power source.

it fills me with joy, to be able to share my insights.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2017, 01:16:55 AM »
thanks!
Yes,  I've been researching and reading (ken wheeler, eric p dollard,  tesla,  Steinmetz,  Thomson  etc) for a while now. And i feel it's time to share my insights.

I have seen the influence of  aluminium foil(mirror)  on the resonant signal,  but i haven't seen it floating. I only work with low power settings so far. But I could a new coil,  and get a stronger dc power source.

it fills me with joy, to be able to share my insights.

Hi evostars ,
I full understand you,  because i have the same feelings inside me  , i really like to share what i discover and learn , but lot of people are not full honesty because only try get some vantage from hard work from others . Sometimes a simple thank is enough to fill our inner inside but even that is so much to lot of people .  seems most like live in the "dark"

Good luck to your research

cheers

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2017, 01:57:12 AM »
Thanks to you both - the bifilar pancake truly is a fascinating coil.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2017, 02:21:43 AM »
Nice work, I like the calm style of the videos and the explanations were done well. Keep up the great work. I haven't done much research in this field, but a static magnetic field in the coil when driven by ac seems strange. My first thoughts are that the coil driver is not providing a perfectly balanced sine wave. The residual DC from the inbance causes the static magnetic field. Is this a possibility?

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2017, 11:41:04 AM »
Nice work, I like the calm style of the videos and the explanations were done well. Keep up the great work.

Indeed very chill out videos. Keep it up Evostars and thanks for sharing your thoughts. ;)

My first thoughts are that the coil driver is not providing a perfectly balanced sine wave. The residual DC from the inbance causes the static magnetic field. Is this a possibility?

I do believe the same. One direction pulse driving, leads to a static magnetic field illusion. Actually is a pulsed, one way direction magnetic field.

Regards

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2017, 11:47:38 AM »
Thanks to you both - the bifilar pancake truly is a fascinating coil.
Thank you!
Indeed it is.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2017, 11:52:34 AM »
Nice work, I like the calm style of the videos and the explanations were done well. Keep up the great work. I haven't done much research in this field, but a static magnetic field in the coil when driven by ac seems strange. My first thoughts are that the coil driver is not providing a perfectly balanced sine wave. The residual DC from the inbance causes the static magnetic field. Is this a possibility?
Thank you!
I'm not using sine waves. They dont work. I use very short energetic pulses. The IGBT driver is doing that. But a square wave from a pulse generator also works.
I think the static magnetic field is a result of the standing wave created at resonance.

when water is standing still, the wind blows, and shows traveling waves.
But when the water is flowing fast, and hits a rock, it flows around it, and produces a standing wave.

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2017, 11:58:03 AM »
Indeed very chill out videos. Keep it up Evostars and thanks for sharing your thoughts. ;)

I do believe the same. One direction pulse driving, leads to a static magnetic field illusion. Actually is a pulsed, one way direction magnetic field.

Regards

Thank you.

Keep in mind, I have 3 coils on top off eachother.  the middle coil is freely resonanting with the field produced by the top and bottom ones.
The top and bottom coil are pulsed (not sine wave but short sharp pulses, in the video you see a square wave, of the pulse generator, but the igbt gives a energetic pulse)

The top and bottom coils are in series, and the pulse therefore gives a opposite field above and below the coils. the coils are therefor in attraction.

lets say a pulsed coil, produces a north above and a south beneath it.  then the north and south are joined when you stack them. in this place of attraction the center coil is placed, in the north south field.

But as I have shown in the video (magnetism) there is almost NO attraction of the magnetic fields!

I think we really need to look at the dielectric field, the capacitance. and the properties of this field. As it seems to be the origin of the magnetic fields.


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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2017, 01:38:00 PM »
I've made an update to "The dielectric field of a bifilar pancake coil" video.
In this earlier video I showed the effect of grounding on a LED array.
In this addition I show the effect of grounding on two capacitors.
https://youtu.be/4_q8TjEMM50

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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2017, 02:23:20 PM »
Very interesting project. You may want to look at "Jack Noskills" project, in which he uses a high capacitance coil too, but what is diffrent is: he does not connect the two windings, but uses them with open ends, so the coil may load, but no current may flow. He achieves some interesting results, some similar to yours, such as bypassing high resistors, and difficulty to convert the output to a form that (not only eg. lightbulbs, but also) inductive Loads can use.


I got to find the link...


BTW. would be nice to have some essential data here:
Pulse frequency, duty time, voltage, coil specs, any diodes to guide the collapsing fields back emf...


kr


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Re: The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2017, 02:34:35 PM »
Ok here's Jack Noskills' thread/ project:


http://overunity.com/17119/pulling-energy-from-the-ambient-energy-field-using-a-coil-capacitor/msg501319/#msg501319


I don't mean to become offtopic, there seem to be some interesting parallels.

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