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Author Topic: Simple Experiment: Extraction of Energy from Permanent Magnets  (Read 22994 times)

Offline dieter

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Re: Simple Experiment: Extraction of Energy from Permanent Magnets
« Reply #75 on: March 19, 2017, 03:43:07 PM »
I dunno who MH is talking to, so much, but I don't see what he's writing. Just the ghost of christmas past.

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Re: Simple Experiment: Extraction of Energy from Permanent Magnets
« Reply #76 on: March 19, 2017, 03:59:16 PM »
I dunno who MH is talking to, so much, but I don't see what he's writing. Just the ghost of christmas past.

Okay, so I am going to assume that you haven't blocked me, and instead you are just playing a foolish game.  It's ridiculous.

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Re: Simple Experiment: Extraction of Energy from Permanent Magnets
« Reply #77 on: March 19, 2017, 05:22:46 PM »
MILE HIGH, TK AND THE REST WILL ALWAYS BE HERE REASON BEING WE ARE ADDICTED
TO THIS NICOTINE OF SEEING THAT SUPER SIMPLE GENIUS WHO WILL FINALLY
COME UP WITH THIS SIMPLE FREE ENERGY MACHINE . HANG AROUND MILE HIGH IT
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Offline seychelles

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Re: Simple Experiment: Extraction of Energy from Permanent Magnets
« Reply #78 on: March 20, 2017, 11:47:42 AM »
IT WAS NOT MY INVENTION BUT, I WOULD SAY A BREAKTHROUGH IN GREAT SIMPLE ENGINEERING.
IT IS A PERMANENT MAGNET SWITCH..THIS WILL CUT MOST OF THE LENS LAW ..AND THE NEXT
WILL BE LEVERAGE..COMING UP.

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Re: Simple Experiment: Extraction of Energy from Permanent Magnets
« Reply #79 on: March 20, 2017, 10:52:16 PM »
IT WAS NOT MY INVENTION BUT, I WOULD SAY A BREAKTHROUGH IN GREAT SIMPLE ENGINEERING.
IT IS A PERMANENT MAGNET SWITCH..THIS WILL CUT MOST OF THE LENS LAW ..AND THE NEXT
WILL BE LEVERAGE..COMING UP.

Hi
how exactly does it work?

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Re: Simple Experiment: Extraction of Energy from Permanent Magnets
« Reply #79 on: March 20, 2017, 10:52:16 PM »
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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Simple Experiment: Extraction of Energy from Permanent Magnets
« Reply #80 on: March 21, 2017, 04:33:46 AM »
It's like the casing on the back of the speaker magnet
Except it's on both halves of the magnet
What it does to the magnet is all internal so not important here
What the magnet does to the soft iron and its' response IS


A pulse in the direction of the magnet will be amplified and accelerated
BY the magnet. As if you had two electromagnets
The field collapse will be retarded.


A pulse in the other will be retarded, while the field collapse will
be amplified, and accelerated.

The trifilar coil is just Tesla's advancement on his bifilar one.
The principal there is the same.



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Re: Simple Experiment: Extraction of Energy from Permanent Magnets
« Reply #81 on: March 21, 2017, 11:09:35 AM »
THE SOFT IRON CORE IS SHUNTING PATH FOR THE PM FIELD,
WHEN THE ELECTROMAGNET IS POWERED UP IT IS THE SAME
POLARITY AS THE PM, THERE PROPELS THE MAGNETIC FIELD
OUT OF THE CORE THUS DOUBLING THE MAGNETIC FIELD STRENGTH..
SO IN A MOTOR WHEN THE ROTOR AND THE STATOR APPROACH  THERE IS
VERY LITTLE RESISTANCE BECAUSE THE MAGNETIC FIELD IS SHUNTED..
AT TDC THEN THE PULSE IS APPLIED..

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Re: Simple Experiment: Extraction of Energy from Permanent Magnets
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Offline seychelles

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Re: Simple Experiment: Extraction of Energy from Permanent Magnets
« Reply #82 on: March 21, 2017, 08:29:05 PM »
SEYCHELLES FREE ENERGY ELECTRICAL GENERATOR FREE TO THE WORLD.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2017, 04:44:09 AM by seychelles »

Offline forest

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Re: Simple Experiment: Extraction of Energy from Permanent Magnets
« Reply #83 on: March 21, 2017, 09:16:05 PM »
All already done by Richard Willis in 2007, though we still are waiting for the economic world to accept such devices :-(

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Re: Simple Experiment: Extraction of Energy from Permanent Magnets
« Reply #84 on: March 21, 2017, 09:37:37 PM »
All already done by Richard Willis in 2007, though we still are waiting for the economic world to accept such devices :-(

You are in a class almost all by yourself, Forest.  Richard Willis of Magnacoaster infamy was just a low-life
con artist operating in the free energy cottage industry.  He barely had a clue about electronics and his
whole pitch was the usual thing we have heard many times before.  He was nothing more than a barnacle
in the sea casting his filter feeding organ to eat tender morsels of money.  That is the reality of Richard
Willis and you should try to understand that.

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Re: Simple Experiment: Extraction of Energy from Permanent Magnets
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Offline MileHigh

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Re: Simple Experiment: Extraction of Energy from Permanent Magnets
« Reply #85 on: March 21, 2017, 09:41:59 PM »
SEYCHELLES FREE ENERGY ELECTRICAL GENERATOR FREE TO THE WORLD.

After all this time, why are you still posting giant graphic images that look like they were made
with Microsoft Paint when Paint has a built-in image resizing function?  You should make
your images no wider than 900 pixels.

Please stop posting giant images.

Offline seychelles

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Re: Simple Experiment: Extraction of Energy from Permanent Magnets
« Reply #86 on: March 22, 2017, 04:45:43 AM »
not even close to that willis guy invention..

Offline forest

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Re: Simple Experiment: Extraction of Energy from Permanent Magnets
« Reply #87 on: March 22, 2017, 10:10:37 AM »
yeah,no even close  ::)

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Re: Simple Experiment: Extraction of Energy from Permanent Magnets
« Reply #88 on: March 22, 2017, 10:30:21 AM »
yeah,no even close  ::)

No tweets from Richard Willis in nearly three years:

https://twitter.com/magnacoaster?lang=en

No new YouTube videos in three years:

https://www.youtube.com/user/Magnacoastermotors/videos

The domain name magnacoaster.com is long gone.

Article on Revolution Green:

http://revolution-green.com/rasa-viharii-decline-magnacoster/

Magnacoaster is a dead parrot.

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Re: Simple Experiment: Extraction of Energy from Permanent Magnets
« Reply #89 on: March 22, 2017, 01:19:07 PM »


Can permanent magnets be used as an energy source?


According to accepted beliefs in established science, permanent magnets can only convert energy, but are not an energy source by their own.


But there are certain problems with this theory. Strange seems the fact, that very simple experiments obviously do not obey the laws of physics and yet are completely ignored by mainstream science.


One of these experiments that everybody can do at home I will now present to you. It consists of a coreless coil, about 100 turns, a 9V battery and a permanent magnet. Arrange the parts, so when you connect the battery to the coil for a brief moment, the coil will be repelled by the fixed permanent magnet. Measure how far the coil was repelled.


I am quite sure there are formulas that explicitely show how and why the coil went that far, solely based on the electric current consumption from the battery. Seemingly, that's all nice and fine.


Now replace the permanent magnet by a much bigger, stronger permanent magnet. Repeat the exact same test, with the same DC pulse to the coil. This time the coil is pushed much further away than before.


How can this be? We used the same amount of input energy from the battery, but the output as a repelling force has increased. Where does the additional energy come from, if not from the permanent magnet?


In fact, it is stupidly simple. Total force= force of permanent magnet + force of coil.


Basicly, this is exactly what we have been searching for for so long time. A way to turn on and off a permanent magnet. Actually, we turn on and off only whether the coil is reacting to the magnet or not. But the effect is the same.




Conclusions:


By increasing the strength of the permanent magnets, less energy is required by the coils to maintain the same torque.


By infinitely increasing the strength of the magnets, the coils energy requirement would decrease infinitely, while maintaining the same torque.


By infinitely increasing the strength of the magnets, the torque would increase infinitely, therefor there is no linear relation between DC coil pulse and motor torque.


It must be possible to increase the strength of the magnets up to a point, at which the torque delivers enough energy to power an (inductively isolated) conventional generator, which then powers the coil pulses. Such a device would clearly violate a bunch of laws.




Applications


Back in the 19th century magnets were weak and expensive. The introduction of the selfexciting generator without permanent magnets lowered production costs greatly. Mechanical input energy was cheap. So permanent magnet motors and generators became widely obsolete.


Today we have strong Neodymium magnets, it should be possible to obtain considerable amount of torque even with a small motor. Although a big magnet with 1000 pound pull costs maybe 2000$, smaller magnets are much cheaper and can be stacked to increase their strength.


Right now this whole thing sounds too easy and too good to be true. All I can say is I made a test, as described above, with 3 magnets: a tiny Neo, about 5mm x 3mm, a medium size Neo about 5mm x 30mm, and a large stack of 4mm Neo disks, in all about 10mm x 70mm.
Coil was 0.5mm average diameter about 20mm, height about 10mm. No core.


With the tiny Neo the coil barely fell to the side.


With the medium Neo it flew maybe 80mm.


With the large Neo stack it fulminantly flew about 200mm, but was then stopped by the wire connections.


Could it really be that simple?




The future


Permanent magnets have their limits. However, in space temperature is near 0 deg. Kelvin resulting in superconductivity, which would increase the efficiency by several magnitudes. The resulting Free Energy could be used to power greenhouse spacestations and spaceships.


But even simple "earthbound" applications may exhibit very interesting results.


The explanation to the further "jump" of the coil when using a stronger magnet is very simple.
If you calculate the kinetic energy of the coil when it has reach its highest velocity, you will see that this energy is less than the energy you apply to the coil. The stronger the magnet, the more "solid ground" it has at its drive. It's like standing on a soft versus solid ground and try to jump, but magnets will never become like a solid hard non flexible ground that makes the drive absolutely 100% efficient.
A larger magnet have a wider magnetic field that have an influence on the coils field. The magnetic field around the coil has more magnetic field lines to grab, and the repulsion will increase.
If you repeat the experiment with a non-magnetic "magnet", a piece of wood for example, the coil is still applied energy, but it will not go anywhere. Does that mean that energy is destroyed? I think not.


Your theory is well understood within loudspeaker drivers and electric motors. The larger the magnet, the higher the efficiency (Assuming that larger magnets are able to increase the flux density in the pole piece). The mechanical efficiency is easier to measure if you have an electric motor attached to a generator.


The highest magnetic density produced in the lab, is approx 36 tesla in 2016. It is literally an explosion because the materials used cannot withstand the enormous magnetic pressure that wants the magnetic material to fly apart.


Vidar

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Re: Simple Experiment: Extraction of Energy from Permanent Magnets
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