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Author Topic: A Simple Question About TPU Replication Attempts  (Read 9069 times)

Offline kEhYo77

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Re: A Simple Question About TPU Replication Attempts
« Reply #45 on: March 19, 2017, 01:42:46 PM »
Hi Jeg.
Could you elaborate on those "special" conditions?
90 deg phase shifted output maybe?

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Re: A Simple Question About TPU Replication Attempts
« Reply #46 on: March 19, 2017, 03:28:32 PM »

After watching Akula's 1W TPU tear down this is what I came up with.
In the schematic I omitted control windings so that the principle of operation is seen more clearly.
Faraday's law states that whenever there is a changing E field in time there is a magnetic field changing in time and if so there must be induction.
Diving the primary with resonance frequency of this Tesla transformer configuration will create changing E field between capacitor plates and around them.
This will induce a voltage in the output winding but the resulting magnetic field will be at the right angle to the inducing so Lenz's reaction will not affect the input, I think.


Let's not distract ourselves and focus on a new find -US3085189. Current drive by travelling wave.
Possible use of displacement current of capacitor may be separate thread.
Otherwise we end up nowhere, like it has been in the past- threads getting diluted , having over 1 Kposts.


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Offline Jeg

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Re: A Simple Question About TPU Replication Attempts
« Reply #47 on: March 20, 2017, 12:19:03 PM »

90 deg phase shifted output maybe?

Yes. Phase shift is of the aspects that has to be considered.  ;)

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Re: A Simple Question About TPU Replication Attempts
« Reply #48 on: March 20, 2017, 06:26:44 PM »

Let's not distract ourselves and focus on a new find -US3085189. Current drive by travelling wave.
Possible use of displacement current of capacitor may be separate thread.
Otherwise we end up nowhere, like it has been in the past- threads getting diluted , having over 1 Kposts.


Regards,
Pix

I agree.

Pix and Turbo, vortex, have dedicated a decade of their lives to this research.

If they feel like this has no relation I trust them.

I took 2 minutes to read this and I can say it's not in line with subject.

Keep it on topic or go make another thread.


Offline Vortex1

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Re: A Simple Question About TPU Replication Attempts
« Reply #49 on: March 21, 2017, 02:09:47 AM »
I agree.

Pix and Turbo, vortex, have dedicated a decade of their lives to this research.

If they feel like this has no relation I trust them.

I took 2 minutes to read this and I can say it's not in line with subject.

Keep it on topic or go make another thread.

I think there is a bit of a communication derail here.

To be clear the patent presented by PIX  US3085189 Thonemann et al is very much in line with TPU research.

 It presents an explanation to some of the factors that  have been elusive regarding the SM TPU.

The biggest find within the patent in my opinion is the direct conversion of RF Current (alternating current)  into a Direct Current by propelling electrons in one direction in a elemental noble gas or mixture of gases or an electron "gas" in the metal lattice of a conductor or a semiconductor. (the collector)

And this is the very first claim of the patent!. How this is done without discrete semiconductor rectifiers eluded me and others for a very long time. If the patent is real and works as claimed, it is to me at least, a huge revelation.

It is my belief that any serious researcher of TPU devices of SM must address this first major issue.

The other issues fall into place once this is properly addressed. The very slight gyroscopic effect, the slight stiction when pushed can possibly be explained when copious numbers of electrons are accelerated to wave velocity in a circular shaped device.

Also looking at the graphs, there is a current multiplication of at least one order of magnitude.

Two methods are presented for producing the traveling wave and resultant DC current derived from RF input current, one utilizing a transmission line and the other a polyphase drive system.

So, to be sure, the patent US3085189 generously provided by PIX is very relevant to the topic of the thread.

Armcortex, were you referring to something else? The Akula stuff perhaps?

Regards
Vortex1

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Re: A Simple Question About TPU Replication Attempts
« Reply #49 on: March 21, 2017, 02:09:47 AM »
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Offline Dansway

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Re: A Simple Question About TPU Replication Attempts
« Reply #50 on: March 23, 2017, 02:35:17 AM »
Can anyone point to the complete compendium of TPU files?  (All highlighted SM email, etc etc.)

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Re: A Simple Question About TPU Replication Attempts
« Reply #51 on: March 23, 2017, 03:29:26 AM »
Can anyone point to the complete compendium of TPU files?  (All highlighted SM email, etc etc.)

The problem with the information is the bits and pieces and the jewels have been scattered among the myriad threads and topics on this and other forums.

From time to time some folks have put together the emails between Lindsay Mannix and Steven Mark, but the info therein is out of order time wise and incomplete.

There is much more than just the email exchanges, which are only a small part of the whole picture.

If you are new to this, it will take a lot of reading to get up to speed and get a good handle on the whole story. You could start with the "Master of Magnetics" thread if it still exists on this forum.

 "OverUnityResearch" also has a lot of good categorized info and discussion.

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?board=8.0

The biggest problem is all the personal hypothesis that somehow got turned into facts about the TPU. Sorting through that could take you a decade. Also beware of all the people faking non working devices on youtube just to get hits for money.

Try the attachment for a start.

Regards

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Re: A Simple Question About TPU Replication Attempts
« Reply #51 on: March 23, 2017, 03:29:26 AM »
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Offline MasterPlaster

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Re: A Simple Question About TPU Replication Attempts
« Reply #52 on: March 25, 2017, 09:34:56 PM »
Pix, Thank you for the patent. When ever I study a patent I normally read the other info that comes along with it because each one may shed some more light on the issue. With respect to US3085189 I have disclosed the following. Also the patent itself reminds me a bit of H Kunel drawing.

 

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Re: A Simple Question About TPU Replication Attempts
« Reply #53 on: April 30, 2017, 12:40:48 AM »
Just an update on progress with experiments

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=302.msg61336;topicseen#msg61336

If and when there is a real result this thread will swing into gear...
all comments welcomed and appreciated

Respectfully
Chet K

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Re: A Simple Question About TPU Replication Attempts
« Reply #54 on: May 01, 2017, 11:37:02 PM »
Post 474 here has a nice thought on an interesting technique to light the tube.

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=302.msg61386;topicseen#msg61386


PLEASE OBSERVE WARNINGS !!

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Re: A Simple Question About TPU Replication Attempts
« Reply #54 on: May 01, 2017, 11:37:02 PM »
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Offline cheappower2012

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Re: A Simple Question About TPU Replication Attempts
« Reply #55 on: May 03, 2017, 01:48:28 AM »
The nonsense that goes on in here is amazing,the creation of mythologies to make some peoples ego's feel good is unbelievable :o.If science was done in this manner we would be living in caves and eating raw meat ::).Facts form the core of any theory,fact one Steven Marks ran a sort of con operation out of the mansion he lived in,the device I believe is real,however he lured investors in
with the implied belief they would corner the market on energy.He had no intention of giving them anything,and didn't.Steven Mark is a greedy
disgusting human being,a flower of humanity. Steven Mark cheated countless people,no one ever said hes device was fake
some investors brought in there own experts to test if the devices were real,no fraud was ever detected.A person like Steven Mark is a pathological liar very little of what he says can be believed
nevertheless a lot of people believe he can't lie ;D.The output of the tpu's are dc, not dc with a 5khz hash that's plain silly.The devices appear to be mainly wire,with very few components,the devices vibrate at a low frequency,this vibration is not a product of properties of a magnetic field,attraction or repulsion,but something different.There is an alleged gyroscopic effect,I believed this to be a fraud
effect ,however it may be real.A new video has appeared that shows a lot of people moving the small tpu in the air.It can be shown that you can create the effect of a vibration not using the magnetic properties of the magnetic field.It may also be possible to recreate the gyroscopic effect,never tried it since I believed it to be fake.The point is some effects are a cause of a huge current existing in the wire ring of the tpu,in pulses.It is possible to transfer energy in the form of pulses thru a bifular coil,you lose a lot of energy but,it fits the tpu pattern ,the tpu gets very hot,a lot of energy is wasted.The question is how are these huge current pulses created,thats the unknown mystery of the tpu.

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Re: A Simple Question About TPU Replication Attempts
« Reply #56 on: May 08, 2017, 04:50:21 PM »
OK, Guys - I gather from these discussions that the simple switched fields in quadrature - like squeezing toothpaste forward doesn't work by itself.


Given the spinning compass needle reported with the Mark device, it still must be part of the picture.  That said......I wonder about something Kanarev said - that he could create free energy by electromechanical means OR electromagnetic/electronic means.  If so, that's a clue.  As I recall the remark, it sounds like he wasn't willing to discuss the electronic means because he feared for his life (!)


This would tend to support my idea that there is a relationship between the Marks device and the Linevich device - as both exploit a free energy effect connected with centrifugal/rotating force.  The Marks device would simply be the fully electronic version of a such an arrangement, using fields alone.


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Re: A Simple Question About TPU Replication Attempts
« Reply #58 on: May 08, 2017, 08:55:42 PM »
The  A B C thing looks like one coil with a center tap on B1


Thanks


Offline poynt99

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Re: A Simple Question About TPU Replication Attempts
« Reply #59 on: May 09, 2017, 04:41:07 AM »
Are these picture known to you? It is said that SM gave it via Mannix to a small group of members of overunity.com  It is just to give an idea how to wind the coils.

https://s19.postimg.org/47nzzobyr/2009-12-22_17.11.29.jpg
https://s19.postimg.org/pk03b3lar/2009-12-22_17.11.46.jpg
https://s19.postimg.org/vjj910gpf/2009-12-22_17.11.37.jpg
https://s19.postimg.org/ldf8vrloz/2009-12-22_17.12.20.jpg
https://s19.postimg.org/y3jh8utn7/2009-12-22_17.11.51.jpg
Really?

I've never seen these pictures (or at least I don't recall seeing them), and I also doubt they came from SM. But if you have some evidence that they did, I'm interested in reading about it.  :)

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Re: A Simple Question About TPU Replication Attempts
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