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Author Topic: Self running magnet piston generator.  (Read 3796 times)

Offline synchro1

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Self running magnet piston generator.
« on: March 07, 2017, 11:36:04 AM »
 "Overunity Design" pictured below: 4 self cocking units, triggering each other in succession. Once set in motion, this design would continue to run forever! Plenty of electrical output could be drawn just by building pickup coils around the powerful oscillating piston magents. This generator should deliver 3 times the force it takes to run itself, so it could easily produce kilowatts of power.

We can clearly see the "Trigger Sheer" magnet forcfully resetting itself at 5:11 in Ima MagnetFanatic's video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvLjgZWl4s8

This "Self Retraction" event adds a super plus advantage to the generator! "Ima MagnetFanatic" says the magnet tube glue dosen't hold up; A threaded brass rod and four aircraft locking nuts would solve that problem

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Re: Self running magnet ptston generator.
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2017, 11:43:56 AM »
Here's a bamboo version of the magnet piston with weak Radio Shack ceramic ring magnets:

https://youtu.be/awL8uIrj5NY

Here's another video of the piston in action.The throw is directly proportional to the repulsion force between the stationary axle magnet and the top piston magnet: The stronger the magnets the larger the throw:

https://youtu.be/awL8uIrj5NY

"A 1" cube magnet with a 94.6 lb pull force has a Shear Force of about 28.5 lbs". The ratio is 3.3."

The  trigger magnet sheer force to piston push pull force is exactly the same as the sheer to push pull force ratio of the 1" cube.



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Re: Self running magnet piston generator.
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2017, 12:30:00 PM »
This patent would probably deserve it's own thread, but it's related to this one at least in principle.

Device and control system for producing electrical power

Inventor: Michael Cristoforo Douglas Willard Lindstrom
Current Assignee: Magnetic Miles LLC

Abstract

Briefly, the invention involves a system and method for generating electrical power. The system includes an electromagnet positioned with one pole directed toward a like pole of a permanent magnet. The permanent magnet is preferably mounted for oscillating movement toward the pole of the electromagnet. A control system for the electromagnet is provided to supply direct current (DC) power in the form of square wave pulses which coincide with the position of the permanent magnet. Power is collected upon the collapse of the magnetic field within the electromagnetic magnet. In some embodiments the present device is supplied in the form of a reciprocating engine which provides rotary motion in addition to the electrical power generated.

This principle is here for quite some time already -, so that the patent presented would probably violate priority of many others. The basic idea is, the magnet attracts ferromagnetic objects only until they're not saturated with electromagnetic field (magnetic field of electromagnet). The usable work is done, once the saturation gets shut down again without involvement the backward electromotive force to electromagnet. The magnon or even LENR stuff is speculative here, because the overunity could be explained even without them.

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Re: Self running magnet piston generator.
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2017, 08:01:40 PM »
Looks like magnacoaster


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Re: Self running magnet piston generator.
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2017, 08:16:54 PM »
This patent would probably deserve it's own thread, but it's related to this one at least in principle.

Device and control system for producing electrical power

Inventor: Michael Cristoforo Douglas Willard Lindstrom
Current Assignee: Magnetic Miles LLC

Abstract

Briefly, the invention involves a system and method for generating electrical power. The system includes an electromagnet positioned with one pole directed toward a like pole of a permanent magnet. The permanent magnet is preferably mounted for oscillating movement toward the pole of the electromagnet. A control system for the electromagnet is provided to supply direct current (DC) power in the form of square wave pulses which coincide with the position of the permanent magnet. Power is collected upon the collapse of the magnetic field within the electromagnetic magnet. In some embodiments the present device is supplied in the form of a reciprocating engine which provides rotary motion in addition to the electrical power generated.

This principle is here for quite some time already -, so that the patent presented would probably violate priority of many others. The basic idea is, the magnet attracts ferromagnetic objects only until they're not saturated with electromagnetic field (magnetic field of electromagnet). The usable work is done, once the saturation gets shut down again without involvement the backward electromotive force to electromagnet. The magnon or even LENR stuff is speculative here, because the overunity could be explained even without them.

@Zephir,

Thanks for the Hyper-links. I agree with you that there's not much new in the patent. I ordered a few dozen neo tube magnets from K&J magnetics and half a dozen acrylic tubes for my next test.

The piston force is really around three times the trigger force; So, a second trigger magnet attached to struts connected to the first piston tube should deliver sufficient force to power the second piston tube one full stroke. One simple chain reaction like that, just one, would act as irrefutable proof of Overunity.
 

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Re: Self running magnet piston generator.
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2017, 08:16:54 PM »
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Offline synchro1

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Re: Self running magnet piston generator.
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2017, 08:11:25 PM »
Scaling up by coupling tube magnets end to end, both on the axle and inside the piston tube would double the throw and the magnet strength resulting in twice the output. "Ima Magnetfanatic" chose 7/8" and 3/4" diameter neo tubes, giving the acrylic tube 1/16 of an inch clearance on each side of the axle magnet. I ordered 3/4" neo tubes and 5/8" neo rings from K&J, resulting in the same clearance inside a 3/4" I.D. acrylic tube ; Therefore, the magnet strength and piston output can easily double or triple with end to end coupling, while the acrylic tube diameter and brass axle stay the same.

Output coils would cover both moving piston magnets held in place by a second stationary acrylic tube as pictured below:

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Re: Self running magnet piston generator.
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2017, 09:05:49 PM »
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Re: Self running magnet piston generator.
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Re: Self running magnet piston generator.
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2017, 12:37:58 AM »
they won't let me post

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Re: Self running magnet piston generator.
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2017, 12:50:07 AM »
It's funny everybody follows the same path.
2 Fields, offset the fields by having 2 poles against one, or vise versa
You can't have them acting beside each other.
90 deg. seems to be about the best, still checking
If it self runs It will not likely power much of a load.
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Re: Self running magnet piston generator.
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Offline synchro1

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Re: Self running magnet piston generator.
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2017, 02:18:05 AM »
Trigger magnet 1 moves trigger magmet 2 attached to the acrylic piston tube by two braces as below:

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Re: Self running magnet piston generator.
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2017, 02:27:17 AM »
That's just another that will balance.


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Re: Self running magnet piston generator.
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2017, 12:15:08 PM »
That's just another that will balance.

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Re: Self running magnet piston generator.
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2017, 01:08:59 PM »
I made a series of 7 video's about a magnet piston generator, what I called a linear generator or EM resonator.
This project will go on later. It was not self running but in principle there is a lot to gain, so also that of synchro1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ9JDuUPEKE


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Re: Self running magnet piston generator.
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2017, 06:55:27 PM »
The principal can only perform the way as intended,
If the magnets are allowed to perform their own action.
Brute force applications, such as the trigger mechanism,
Use a great deal more energy to cause the action, than can
be gained from the action/reaction of the piston.


The linkage for the trigger should be reexamined, and deigned
to engage in an arc-path away from the base magnet. Instead of
forcing it to travel 90-degrees.


Allow the magnets to follow their natural action and the "input" fades off.
The idea of "balancing" the trigger load is good ingenuity, but we should
address the underlying cause of the resistance.

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Re: Self running magnet piston generator.
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