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Designs: A Self-Powered-Pulsed-Motor, and, A-New?-Generator
« on: March 06, 2017, 10:42:27 PM »
Designs: A Self-Powered-Pulsed-Motor, and, A-New?-Generator

  I am just typing very vague concepts, without details that I have not thought of yet.
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 A Self-Powered-Pulsed-Motor

   ( I  assume  my  pulsed-motor idea, contains no new concepts, but I don't know since this is a subject I know nothing about,  but  my  generator idea further below is not so common  )

   The Initial Design

    The stator is an outer-circle with a coil of wire right around it's perimeter

     The rotor has a magnet/magnets which generate a current in the  stator-coil when the rotor rotates

     And the current generated, is used to push forward the part of the rotor that has the magnet/magnets.  (  for this,  maybe the outer-coil would be divided into sections, to power various pulsers sequentially, which push the rotor,  on the perimeter of the stator  )
      UPDATE : Today I just learned about the concept of using the power of a collapsing-electromagnetic-field  for propulsion in  pulsed motors,  so instead of pushing to create propulsion,  they use attraction. 
      I am thinking that in this  self-running-motor,   it could  'maybe'  use  'pushing'  and  'attraction'( from a collapsing-field )  at the same time ,  however,  that would require such critical timing( and maybe cause rpm restrictions ),  so I don't know.

  ( At the moment I cannot see any reason or concept in this design that would supply enough power for the motor to power itself,  although,  the  'pushers-pulsers' and  the  'attractors-pulsers'  components that provide the propulsion,  they could possibly contain  'iron-cores',  and  some  people believe  'iron-cores' multiply the strength of magnetic-fields,  I don't know  )

      For some reasons,  maybe involving electromagnetic-eddies,  maybe a diode type of component is required for the current,  but I don't know if diodes have 100% no resistance in the direction in which they allow current,  since any resistance at all could prevent a  self-powered device from increasing  current/speed .

      The Coil : I thought that electromagnetic-eddies produced on the coil, which would normally slow the rotation of a rotor,  would automatically be channeled into current to power this motor,  however, I assume I may be wrong.
        So maybe the coil should be replaced with one of the superconductive versions of graphene,  or at least some material that is available,  in other words,  a material that has the  smallest/finest mesh, or lattice,  that is highly electrically conductive,  in order to channel away the  electromagnetic-eddies  directly  to power the pulsers which propel the rotor.
        This leads me to a new? type of  generator design.
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  A New? Type Of Generator Design 
     The Initial Design
        Basically, the initial design would be a Faraday-Disk type of generator,  but the electromagnetic-eddies( which normally cause devices to slow down ) would be channeled of the surface of the disk and would become the  dc-output( or be added to the dc-output ),      this would be done by covering the disk surface with one of the superconductive versions of graphene,  or at least some material that is available,  in other words,  a material that has the  smallest/finest mesh, or lattice,  that is highly electrically conductive,  in order to channel away the  electromagnetic-eddies  directly to  convert them into the  dc-output-power of the  generator.
          The important detail I cannot work out, is how to integrate some sort of  diode-like-effect  on the surface of the disk to more successfully channel   the  electromagnetic-eddies to convert them into the output dc-current,  although, I assume there may be materials that behave like diodes,  but they would not be  the same  materials  that  have  the  "smallest/finest mesh, or lattice,  that is highly electrically conductive"  which would be the new surface of the Faraday-Disk.
             
                   

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Re: Designs: A Self-Powered-Pulsed-Motor, and, A-New?-Generator
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2017, 11:49:38 PM »
I have a question, What happens to a single coil when you short its' leads together, as a magnet is dead center of the coil?
The magnet is sized so it completely leaves one side of the coil before it enters the other.
It approaches , inducing some form of flow, it hits center, flow doesn't stop but instantianously reverses.
Short not the leads together, but one lead back on itself with a properly orientainted diode , positive or negative ,depends on what field your reversing.
The magnet is rotating the coil is stationary.
The coil will produce more.
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Re: Designs: A Self-Powered-Pulsed-Motor, and, A-New?-Generator
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2017, 09:54:03 PM »
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I have a question, What happens to a single coil when you short its' leads together, as a magnet is dead center of the coil?
The magnet is sized so it completely leaves one side of the coil before it enters the other.
It approaches , inducing some form of flow, it hits center, flow doesn't stop but instantianously reverses.
Short not the leads together, but one lead back on itself with a properly orientainted diode , positive or negative ,depends on what field your reversing.
The magnet is rotating the coil is stationary.
The coil will produce more.

    Sometimes I thought I understand how that works, but when I re-think and re-read it,  I lose it

     ( the main reason is because I never build anything and I don't have any of the background or qualifications of the people on this site )

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The magnet is sized so it completely leaves one side of the coil before it enters the other.
     I was sure that the magnet( the seemingly larger magnetic-field existing in the coil ),   does not leave one side of the coil before it enters the other,  that it only goes around that  'closed-loop'  as electricity( with a  'normal' size magnetic-field ),  in other words,   when it leaves the coil it returns to an  electromagnetic-field  of normal proportion ,   

       - if I'm wrong,   then I  think you would not even need the  diode

       - you could just supply 1-volt of current to that loop,  and in a short time the current will have been amplified by a big factor
       -  or instead of directly supplying current to that loop,  induce current in that loop by using a rotating magnet,  and get the same energy amplification

     I was sure there is no energy amplification just by using a coil,  but again,  it could be something new I have learnt on this site

     definitely,  I skip on anything so advanced, it is beyond my capabilities,   if this has been shown to have any results,  it would be on a known device
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      However,  I also got a much simpler understanding / interpretation of your idea, so simple that it  no longer relates to your idea

      you mentioned
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Short not the leads together, but one lead back on itself

      that reminded me of the very original  magnetic-core computer-memory, and how(  I think ) that data was stored by  giving/storing  a magnetic-field  on a ferrite-ring, or removing the magnetic-field  from the  ferrite-ring

     I wonder if you can store a continually increasingly powerful magnetic-field on a ferrite-ring, effectively making your generator/motor  faster and faster ,    in the same way that you can make an electric-motor faster and faster by adding stronger  permanent-magnets to it(  but not increasing the input power )

   I temporarily thought this may have been a possible explanation for the claimed accidental overunity device called  "Network Analyzer"  below :
   look for  "Network Analyzer"  on the page
   http://www.cheniere.org/techpapers/on_extracting_EM%20energy.htm
 
     I only thought that because I thought it was some type of computer,  which may have used something like the  ferrite-ring  computer-memory mentioned above,
     but it seems that the claimed overunity was more due to something like  magnetic-compression/reflection  of  the conductors  electromagnetic-field  back into itself, 
      in other words,   imagine a closed-loop circuit,  and all along that loop,  it is all encased inside a  contentious donut-magnet  to reflect the  electromagnetic-field  back into the loop
   

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Re: Designs: A Self-Powered-Pulsed-Motor, and, A-New?-Generator
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2017, 03:31:58 AM »
The problem with the ferrite ring "RAM" is, it's a closed loop, it can maintain its field only as a closed loop. You may however use this to delay the use of the field. However, this temporarily petmanent magnet Ram or Leedskalnin type of field doesn't like airgaps and flux leakage, so any mechanical implementation is difficult.


Speaking of pulse motors, food for thought maybe:
Imagine to pulse the coil just a moment before the PM magnet passes by, so it will attract it. Then, right when it passed by, let the collapsing field of the coil repell the magnet strongly.


Now here's a claim: the stronger the PM, the higher the efficiency.


I'd try coreless coils, for various reasons.


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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2017, 08:22:28 PM »
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The problem with the ferrite ring "RAM" is, it's a closed loop, it can maintain its field only as a closed loop.

     I understood,  or misunderstood, that builders on this site that work with  solid  iron-cores  inside  electric-coils,  or maybe  just  with  electric-coils  without  cores  :
       -  that they describe an effect of the  iron-core  retaining  a  magnetic-field  after  the  current is  switched  of
       -   or  that they describe an effect of the  electric-coil  retaining  a  magnetic-field  after  the  current is  switched  of

     I should have just mentioned that,  instead of mentioning that ferrite-core  computer memory.
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Speaking of pulse motors, food for thought maybe:
Imagine to pulse the coil just a moment before the PM magnet passes by, so it will attract it. Then, right when it passed by, let the collapsing field of the coil repell the magnet strongly.

    I was sure that that is exactly how  your  magnet-motor  is supposed to work.

    Your work on your motor stopped because you found that the 'Rotor-iron C-core' would be a source a  eddies/braking,   which is obviously very different to a sticky-spot,   OR  IS  IT  ?

     NEUTRALIZATION  OF  EDDIES-BREAKING,  BY USING THE SAME OFFSETTING/OUT-OF-SYNCHRONIZATION  EFFECT TO  NEUTRALIZE  STICKY-SPOTS :   
        FIRST ,  If you had  sticky-spot  problems in your motor,  then obviously you could just apply the same effect of neutralization as in my  magnet-motor-3.5 ,  by linking multiple of you motors together, but  slightly  offset/out-of-sync  with each other  to neutralize  the  sticky-spots
        SECONDLY ,  now I can  vaguely see  maybe  various methods of  using that  Offsetting/Out-Of-Synchronization  Effect  to  overcome  Eddies-Breaking  in other peoples designs

      HERE IS ANOTHER POSSIBLE METHOD,  ALTHOUGH IT MAY VERY POSSIBLY BE THE SAME
      Your  eddies/braking  problem has made me wonder,  if the eddies are causing the  'Rotor-iron C-core'  to slow down,  then  could you not  use  the  outer-edges  of the  eddie  to actually  push/propel  another  'Rotor-iron C-core'  forward,   in other  words,   neutralize  that  breaking effect  by making the  outer-edges  of the  eddie  push something  forward,    although  I assume you would need a more sophisticated  design than what I have just described.

    I assume you want to get your design / prototype working because,  either  :
      -  it will be the  first  magnet-motor  to function successfully as far as you know( although I also do not actually know of any  magnet-motor  that has been proven to function successfully or has been replicated successfully  )
      -  or,  you  think if your  magnet-motor  functions successfully  that one or more aspects of it's  design may be applicable to the design of  conventional  electric-motors  and  or  generators.
            I  wonder  if you could actually copy the design of  electric-motors  and  or  generators  to  make a   permanent-magnet-motor( overunity )  equivalent of them.

   NOTE : The lifespan of  magnets  in  magnet-motors( overunity motors )  may be longer than what I have been led to believe,  because,   of the  impressive  lifespan of  permanent-magnets  in  electric-motors  and  generators( although  I assume these devices may be specifically designed to minimize  stresses on those  permanent-magnets  as  much as possible  )
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I wonder if you can store a continually increasingly powerful magnetic-field on a ferrite-ring, effectively making your generator/motor  faster and faster ,    in the same way that you can make an electric-motor faster and faster by adding stronger  permanent-magnets to it(  but not increasing the input power )

  that has given me the idea below, however, when I originally got this idea, for some reason I thought it could be possible for the  rpm of this motor to continually increase until it breaks apart,  but now as I type the idea,  I have either lost that part of the idea,  or it is not possible

   NOTE :  THE FOLLOWING  MOTOR WHICH FUNCTIONS VIA  ELECTROSTATIC  REPELLING OR ATTRACTING,  WOULD BE  TOTALLY DIFFERENT AND UNRELATED  TO  ELECTROSTATIC-MOTORS,  BECAUSE,  THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY ELECTROSTATIC-DISCHARGES  BETWEEN THE  ROTOR-COMPONENTS  AND THE  STATOR-COMPONENTS

   A PURELY ELECTROSTATIC VERSION OF MY MAGNET-MOTOR-3.5( OR OF MY OTHER VARIOUS  MAGNET-MOTORS ),      HOWEVER,     IN THIS ELECTROSTATIC VERSION ,  THE PROPULSION-COMPONENTS ARE USED TO STORE AN EVER INCREASING ELECTROSTATIC-CHARGE( LIKE CAPACITORS ) UNTIL THEY HAVE TO BE DISCHARGED
   -  READ THIS / IMPORTANT -  THIS  MOTOR WHICH FUNCTIONS VIA  ELECTROSTATIC  REPELLING OR ATTRACTING,  WOULD BE  TOTALLY DIFFERENT AND UNRELATED  TO  ELECTROSTATIC-MOTORS,  BECAUSE,  THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY ELECTROSTATIC-DISCHARGES  BETWEEN THE  ROTOR-COMPONENTS  AND THE  STATOR-COMPONENTS
   - So,  once you have enough rpm,  this charging and discharging cycle should not affect the  rpm.
   - I don't know what would be the best method for  generating  electrostatic-charge  for this  electrostatic  version  of my  magnet-motors
   - The PROPULSION-COMPONENTS as typed in the capital-letters-title-text above,  would be  electrostatic-versions  of the  rotor-components,  or,  of the stator-components,  in my magnet-motors( eg.  my  magnet-motor-3.5   )
   
   NOTE : Since it could( heating problem ? ) be possible to run a magnet-motor  in a  vacuum for  significantly higher  rpm / efficiency,  I wonder if that would also be an option for  this electrostatic equivalent  of  my magnet-motors,  I assume it would,  since it does not  involve any  electrostatic-discharges outside of the metals/plastics

   If this device functioned,  it could be  better  than a magnet-motor in various ways
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    PENDULUM-MAGNET-MOTOR IDEA

    This idea is so simple, that I am absolutely sure it has been designed by numerous people before me.
     Simply,  as the  magnet/or-metal  on the end of the rod/cord  swings to the top of it's  swinging-arc on either side,  it is very briefly  kept there by the attraction of  permanent-magnets.
      ( at the moment I can't see how to do that by repelling instead )

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Re: Designs: A Self-Powered-Pulsed-Motor, and, A-New?-Generator
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2017, 08:50:28 PM »
Some interesting ideas. Some I'd say not working tho. Example given: Charging and uncharging capacitors, like in electrostatics, has that mysterious energy loss up to 50%.


The problem with my negative induction drive design was not Eddy currents, as you said, but Lenz law.


Eddy currents are heating losses, spontanous tiny shortened 1turn coils within the solid material like iron parts. These can be prevented with laminate or ferrite.


Lenz law on the other hand is about the magnetic field of a coil, as soon as you try to harvest its current, will be polarized in such a way that any mechanical force, that is moving the primary magnet in front of the coil, will be braked: when getting closer you're repelled, when you move away, you're attracted by the coil.


The manifestation of the Lenz law in my fluxpath switching design was a bit more complicated, but basicly the same.


You were right, but I am not sure whether you knew why. But that's fine ^^

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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2017, 08:53:40 PM »
     No,   I was wrong about why your motor would not work,  the reason I had thought,  was that your motor would get stuck when the rotor and stator align,  because I thought the  big  'Rotor-iron C-core'  would get stuck to the  stator-magnet  that moves into the  big  'Rotor-iron C-core'.
         -  But you had explained that that was perfectly balanced by the other flux path leading from the stator-magnet  that moves into the  big  'Rotor-iron C-core', or by the actions at the  coil-with-core  component.

  from your latest finding of why your motor won't work,  it seems to be that the central concept upon which your motor is based, won't work ,  a problem which initially seems impossible to fix

   However,  I actually think that your motor could work with whatever required modification or redesign,  but I'm not sure why you'd bother,  if people have already achieved this.

     I think that people have actually overcome the current reason why your motor will not work,  in their own very closely related designs,  that  your motor and their motors are different versions of each other.

   I have noticed more than one, of other peoples motors that are closely related to yours

   And  yesterday I found that apparently the other poster above, in this actual thread,  shylo( artv ),  if he is  'art porter' ,  that his work,    that people replicating his work had apparently overcome your current? problem,  but I'm not sure,   I think by using 2(?) coils,  but I forgot to bookmark the page.

   My own ideas for fixing your motor would be a redesign,  just vaguely guessing at the moment,  by further  separating things apart and away from each other,  and or by using some different effects ,  but would it be worth doing,  since you may not be the first person to get  this type  of motor working .
   ___________

   The  PENDULUM-MAGNET-MOTOR IDEA  I posted yesterday,  I think that although the magnets would help lift up the swinging-magnet/pendulum,  they may also slow down the swing speed of the pendulum as it leaves these magnets,  so maybe any gain is lost.
      However,  obviously  many many people in the past have come up with much more advanced versions etc.

      And about 1 year ago,  I posted a diagram of my  MAGNET-GRAVITY-MOTOR on this site.

      Below, is that diagram again ,  the MAGNET-GRAVITY-MOTOR

        - the rotor is the magnet,  and the stator is just iron
        - Note : Obviously those two small extra stators at the end are to allow the rotor to escape from the big stator,  but obviously the rotor is also assisted by gravity( and momentum ) to escape from the big stator   
        -  However,  if you have seen the  diagram on the wikipedia-page for the SMOT,  you will see that it uses a different type of  leaving-gate to allow the metal-ball to escape the  SMOT,  I wonder if that type of gate could be more effective.

        Yesterday, I  'think' I discovered that someone in the last 5 years may have invented a version of this motor before me,  although some aspects of their motor were different,  I didn't check all the details to check all the differences.
           But anyway,  it was definitely no surprise,  when I first designed this motor,  that because it is so simple,   I assumed that it had been designed by other people before me possibly as far back as 500 years, more, or less.
    ___________

 Work Done By Magnets

  I think if anyone wants possibly the very simplest home experiment to prove that magnets can do work,  then that would be the  SMOT,  and maybe also other versions of the SMOT ,  or,   linear-v-gate-motors?( I can't remember all the distinguishing factors between all these etc )
     Basically,  my idea is that if you can give the tiniest consistent( measurable ) nudge to a metal-ball  so that it enters the  SMOT,  or,  enters a  linear-v-gate-motor,   so that the  SMOT( or linear-v-gate-motor ) shoots the  metal-ball  out,    then  you could  very  easily  compare  'all'  that work done,   to the  'much-less'  work  done when you give the tiniest consistent( measurable ) nudge to a metal-ball without it  entering into  a  SMOT( or other similar motor ).
    NOTE :  On the  diagram on the wikipedia-page for the SMOT,  you will see that it uses a  very  unique-leaving-gate  to allow the metal-ball to escape the  SMOT,  so if you use the  SMOT for the above test,  that  unique-leaving-gate  would be essential to propel the metal-ball to the best distance
    ___________

   also,  below are some of my more interesting  magnet-motor  designs

    DRUM VERSION
        I could never work out if I based this motor on a principle which actually works,  since I don't have appropriate things to do proper tests with
        Basically, I thought that if a magnet floats in a boat above a  very-long-rectangle-made-of-iron( which is underwater ),  that that boat will go to the exact center of that  very-long-rectangle-made-of-iron,    the advantage of using this   very-long-rectangle-made-of-iron  shape  to any other  shape,  is in  the  Absolute-Minimization  of the only sticky-spot in this type of motor,  which is the last  rotating-magnet that wants to move away from the strongest part of the stator.
        In this diagram,  there is also a  Side-View  of this motor,  in which the  basic-rinciple  can be seen more clearly.
        The reason for a  Drum-Version,  is so that  rotating-magnets  do not affect the same/only  big  stator-iron  that  is trying to attract the  other  rotating-magnets,   since I could  'maybe'  see some problems( not relating to eddies )

    MAGNET-MOTOR-10-10 , this is an  improved version of  'DRUM VERSION'  mentioned above,     by moving the  start-point of the stator so close to the  end-point  of the stator,   that I am using that effect to jiggle free that sticky-point .
       I didn't bother drawing the  drum-version of this improved version,  too much drawing etc

    MAGNET-MOTOR-3-2-5 ,  I had wondered that this was my  magnet-motor design with the most torque

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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2017, 04:01:38 PM »
The Smot is a ramp motor. As far as I know, forces are in equilibrium, no gain. What tricks most experimenters is that they ignore the force required to A: move the rotor or moving part to a point, from which it will selfaccellerate. This is your sticky spot.


We are not very diffrent, in enjoying to design motors without to understand the underlying basics. Even tho, I may know a couple of things more, which makes me wanna say "learn the basics first!", I don't know everything neigther. I guess nobody does.


MOT and TOMI tracks are seductive, until you realize their energy equilibrium. The same goes for the sticky spot of any ramp design. Even tho, my other thread about energy extraction from permanent magnets indicates that there would be ways to overcome the sticky point.

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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2017, 04:07:33 PM »
BTW. nice drawings. The Gravity tho, is always in equilibrium. It's addition can't give any gain, but usually just increases friction. If the weight falls down, it must go up again, reducing the torque by the same amount as it increased it when falling. Been there too.

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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2017, 12:39:33 AM »
  usually I only post comments/ideas on this site,  so that in future if they develop into anything significant  anywhere,  I would at least get some recognition

 
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The Gravity tho, is always in equilibrium. It's addition can't give any gain, but usually just increases friction. If the weight falls down, it must go up again, reducing the torque by the same amount as it increased it when falling.

    yes, although I was also hoping to break-symmetry,  with the momentum provided by gravity,  or vice versa,  but I know you already know all that ,  and more etc

   for me,  SMOT 's  are probably the most high profile  'possible'( maybe !) quasi?/proto? proof that magnets do accomplish work

  In particular,  I have noticed at least one  SMOT where the metal-ball  goes right around a track( not sure how much of the track was just downhill gravity ),   and returns  back to the original starting point,  although it then encountered a  .5cm-1cm  vertical-gap  to go on perpetually,    so  if you know of the various tricks/methods  that are known( available to )  by these makers/designers,  you can see how that gap could be bridged

The Advantage Of SMOT 's  Over Other Similar Motors
   Since  SMOT 's  use a metal-ball to be the moving part ( instead of a magnet ), there is no sticky-point  at the start of the track, 
    -  there are various examples of  the metal-ball going through 3 or more SMOT 's,     
       -  not to mention some even more interesting  effects

      -  In  similar  motors like   linear-v-gate-motors,   because they use a  'magnet' as the moving-part( instead of a  metal-ball)     there is always that strong sticky-point at the start of the track,   which seems more difficult to overcome than the  sticky-point at the  end  of the  SMOT  track,   at the moment I can't remember,  but I'm sure there must be examples of a  magnet  travelling  through  2 or 3 or 4  v-gate tracks
 (  if there are no examples of  :
      "a magnet  travelling  through  2 or 3 or 4  v-gate tracks" ,    I know that there are various  tricks/methods  that are known( available to by these makers/designers that should be able to overcome or minimize that problem )
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   Pushing Aether Though An Electrical Conductor To Generate Current
     For people who think that pushing Aether though an electrical-conductor,  could generate current,   just as some sort of proof of what  Aether is,  or what it could do etc,  I thought up of some simple possible tests

      -  A magnet in the shape of a fan or propellor( or a more advanced compressor or contra-rotating design ),  which  rotates on a shaft,   to try and propel  Aether,   
           and then,  channel  that  Aether  into  a  long  cylinder-donut-magnet( a  small-hole  running right through the cylinder-magnet, so that it is a cylinder-donut-magnet )  ,   this is not only  for  further  compression of the  Aether,  it is also to  separate  by distance  the   Propellor-Magnet  and  the  following metal-wire
            so, at the end of the cylinder-donut-magnet,  is simply  a  metal-wire ,  in a  loop?,  to try and detect any current
            Note :  The magnetic-flux changes caused by the rotating  Propellor-Magnet,   would/could very possibly be transmitted along/through the  cylinder-donut-magnet,  which could cause a current to flow in the wire,  which could give false results,    that is a problem I cannot think of how to fix at the moment ( and I assume the sphere-donut  invented at the university at barcelona would have the same effect )

    But I thought of a much simpler option,  that is to simply blow air at a wire( a specially insulated wire, to eliminate any electrostatic effects, etc ),   a wire in a loop?,  since I'm thinking that all those air-molecule could possibly propel at least some percentage of the Aether,  and some of it could go into the wire 

   And lastly, an idea I assume would not work,   it  is exactly the same as the first idea involving the  Propellor-Magnet( and the cylinder-donut-magnet ),   however,  in this version,  the  Propellor-Magnet  is replaced  by  a  Non-Rotating Special-Cylinder-Donut-Magnet( it Does Not Rotate ),  which  has screw-grooves  inside the hole,   just to see if maybe this  Non-Rotating Special-Cylinder-Donut-Magnet  can propel  Aether to generate current

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Re: Designs: A Self-Powered-Pulsed-Motor, and, A-New?-Generator
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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2017, 11:56:02 PM »
The momentum and wieght of the magnet , with the help of gravity can break free.
But I don't think its' enough. Place a ring magnet on the top center of a piece of steel pipe, let it roll down one side,
It will travel about 3/4 of the way around the pipe, at a good speed.
Where is the point of the highest speed?
Cut a piece of ~26guage steel, the width of the magnet, to act as a track, wrap it around the pipe, now run the magnet around again.
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« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2017, 05:41:14 PM »
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I have a question, What happens to a single coil when you short its' leads together, as a magnet is dead center of the coil?
The magnet is sized so it completely leaves one side of the coil before it enters the other.
It approaches , inducing some form of flow, it hits center, flow doesn't stop but instantianously reverses.
Short not the leads together, but one lead back on itself with a properly orientainted diode , positive or negative ,depends on what field your reversing.
The magnet is rotating the coil is stationary.
The coil will produce more.

     
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Short not the leads together, but one lead back on itself with a properly orientainted diode , positive or negative ,depends on what field your reversing.

      I can't build anything for various reasons

       It would be great if you'd put an LED on the  'lead bent back on itself with a properly orientated diode'  and film it in the dark,  to try and prove that current is flowing.

       (  What your saying in this post is completely new to me, maybe because I have never studied circuitry and I never build anything  )

       Another modification to try and prove your idea,  you could  have  2 wire rings,  each ring having a diode and an LED,  and then connect those 2 wire rings with  'one-single-wire',  and induce current flow in just one of the rings,  to see if you can make the other ring light up,  and film it in the dark.

       Unless this concept of only needing 'one-single-wire' to achieve  current-flow,  is already known by people,  you should definitely start a thread to let people know about it,  if it works.

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The momentum and wieght of the magnet , with the help of gravity can break free.
But I don't think its' enough. Place a ring magnet on the top center of a piece of steel pipe, let it roll down one side,
It will travel about 3/4 of the way around the pipe, at a good speed.
Where is the point of the highest speed?
Cut a piece of ~26guage steel, the width of the magnet, to act as a track, wrap it around the pipe, now run the magnet around again.

    I may( or may not ) , understand this post

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It will travel about 3/4 of the way around the pipe, at a good speed.
Where is the point of the highest speed?

    My  'MAGNET-GRAVITY-MOTOR -.JPG' diagram posted above,  may be my only design where speed is important,  because it would be crucial to keep the motor going,  via momentum,  this one could  definitely  not work at any type of slow speed

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Cut a piece of ~26guage steel, the width of the magnet, to act as a track, wrap it around the pipe, now run the magnet around again.

   the addition of the track may cause more friction and therefore slow it down

   I would be great to see any magnet( or gravity ) motor function successfully at any speed,  speed is definitely not important as long as it keeps spinning( or moving )

   your circuitry idea above, could be useful for more than magnet-motors if it functions( even in any way )



 

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