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Author Topic: Leedskalnin's Perpetual Motion Holder in Electic form  (Read 9613 times)

Offline Searcher1o1

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Re: Leedskalnin's Perpetual Motion Holder in Electic form
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2017, 12:35:09 AM »
Tesla gave us a gift that is overlooked, the rotary switch, a simple wheel with magnets passing reed switches will allow numerous coils to be pulsed in numerous configurations.
Just some ideas to ponder  :)

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Offline dieter

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Re: Leedskalnin's Perpetual Motion Holder in Electic form
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2017, 11:31:00 PM »
A closed Magnetic Fluxpath, caused by a coil, will store its magnetic field until the coil is allowed to have current flow. But as the field is static, no current will flow, unless you kickstart it o one or another direction.


Same with transformers. Stack 2 on eachother, touch with battery, they stick together.


Ed had some more important discoveries, that I recently understood. However.


Offline Cherryman

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Re: Leedskalnin's Perpetual Motion Holder in Electic form
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2017, 11:38:59 PM »
...


Ed had some more important discoveries, that I recently understood. However.


I second that Sir,


For me: 


Charge travels on the outside
Enclosing an (electromagnet) from the outside strengthens the directed magnetic field


Ed was a wise man


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Re: Leedskalnin's Perpetual Motion Holder in Electic form
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2017, 12:45:44 AM »
"Charge travels on the outside" Yes ,
"Enclosing an (electromagnet) from the outside strengthens the directed magnetic field", No, it concentrates it to the center.
It reduces it's influence on the surrounding area.
Don't try to stop doing it from what it, wants to do , try and use that to influence what you want to happen.
artv
 


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Re: Leedskalnin's Perpetual Motion Holder in Electic form
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2017, 11:45:25 PM »
hang some magnets on strings,
spin one. now approach it with another magnet on a string,see what happens.
get 2 spinning then add a third,
it can probably go on forever, I don't know.
Does anybody really know?
artv

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Re: Leedskalnin's Perpetual Motion Holder in Electic form
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2017, 11:45:25 PM »
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Offline Cherryman

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Re: Leedskalnin's Perpetual Motion Holder in Electic form
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2017, 12:40:08 AM »
Shylo, that reminds me reminds me of the good ol' Jonny Davro.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuVtKYfSDI8

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Re: Leedskalnin's Perpetual Motion Holder in Electic form
« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2017, 12:26:49 AM »
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Re: Leedskalnin's Perpetual Motion Holder in Electic form
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2017, 01:08:37 AM »
The raw and unfiltered truth


https://www.jstor.org/stable/108001?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents


Well done! This looks to be the original discovery , well before leedskalin. 

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Re: Leedskalnin's Perpetual Motion Holder in Electic form
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2017, 06:11:19 AM »

Well done! This looks to be the original discovery , well before leedskalin.


Yes. It appears so. I haven't finished reading it yet but all the info seems to be there
No psychobabble
Still looking for the complete original source, this was an excerpt in a publication.
1830's or something

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Re: Leedskalnin's Perpetual Motion Holder in Electic form
« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2017, 09:07:17 AM »
I think that is the complete artice.

Watkins also published a book called
A Popular Sketch of Electro-magnetism, Or Electro-dynamics

found on google books, I haven't had time to read that one.

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Re: Leedskalnin's Perpetual Motion Holder in Electic form
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2017, 04:58:40 PM »
That site has many articles of the royal society journals
And as sad as the fact is......


All of the experiments found in Ed's book
"Magnetic Current"
Can be found in articles published in the royal society of London
From 1826-1854


He read these articles and compiled a list of strange effects not
commonly talked about in science.
When seen in perspective and contextual detail, we find that
Ed Leedskalnin was full of a bunch of Hooplah.


That being said, his work does present these phenomena in a way
that the common man can perform himself.
Although presented in a pseudoscientific manner, that distracts from
the true knowledge.


I therefore recommend that all followers of Ed. L.:
 Take the time to read through the royal society journals.
In fact, everyone should do so, as they contain original writings
From some of the greats, like Faraday,
And brilliant minds we never hear about in history.

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Re: Leedskalnin's Perpetual Motion Holder in Electic form
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2017, 05:19:17 PM »
Back to the topic


The royal society article describes a method of locking the PMH
Using a permanent magnet rather than electric current.
This proves that the effect is not solely electrical in nature.
But can be purely magnetic.


We know through galvanic degradation that there exists
electrical potentials within the metal. but we have no
point of reference to measure their magnitude.


We know that the magnetic field is inverted or contracted.
The release of which, causes a field expansion, rather than a
field collapse.
This is conceptually the inverse of a field collapse, when the
magnetic circuit is broken.


Due to the interrelated nature of the magnetic and electric
components of electromagnetism - it stands to reason that
a circuit of electrical nature can be made to perform this action.


I propose that an electrical conductor of paramagnetic material
be fashioned internally to the center of the pmh
To act as a 'wire' placed in parallel path of the magnetic current.
Around this shall be placed a copper wire of very thin, coated or insulated
coils, of several turns.
This cored coil then be inserted into a groove in the middle of the
PMH material.
Holes be drilled or grooved so as to exit the copper wires from the device.


When magnetized or "locked", the PMH as well as the core of the electric coil
will conduct a perpetual magnetic current.
And if there is any fluctuation or change in magnetism internally
We should be able to detect it on the coil.
Such a test, if successful, would warrant construction of a very large PMH





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Re: Leedskalnin's Perpetual Motion Holder in Electic form
« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2017, 11:20:35 AM »
Isn't it the alignment of electron spins that causes ferromagnetism?  Its not a perpetual current

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Re: Leedskalnin's Perpetual Motion Holder in Electic form
« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2017, 05:55:58 PM »
If you wound coils on a toroid coil form like the pmh and pulsed them with dc would you get transformer action between the coils.
Would it be femf




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Re: Leedskalnin's Perpetual Motion Holder in Electic form
« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2017, 06:18:23 PM »

There is no mystery in Leedskalnin's Perpetual Motion Holder.
It exploits simple phenomena of soft magnetic materials HYSTERESIS.
Soft iron once magnetized  it keeps domains aligned, and as it is in closed loop - this magnetism keeps the steel bar attached to "U" bar.
You need to insert some energy to destroy domains aligment and align them in opposite side.
That's why every transformer has energy loses due to hysteresis.


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Re: Leedskalnin's Perpetual Motion Holder in Electic form
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