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Author Topic: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor  (Read 42718 times)

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #195 on: January 10, 2018, 02:03:20 PM »
The energy density of the earths electric field most of our altitudes

Is ~13w/m^2
Which is coincidentally less than the field of the human body at close distance


The coil capacitor would have to have a very large surface area.
and should not touch it, you can charge it with your body on accident




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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #196 on: January 10, 2018, 02:40:12 PM »
sm0ky2,

so what you are saying is that for the name of this thread "Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor" to be thru,
we need a very large surface area, like  ~1m² for pulling 13w of energy, right?

Would that large surface area be the total coil area, or only the area where both bifilar coils (almost) touch?



What about this statement:

Established mainstream physicists Dr John Wheeler and Dr Richard Feynman calculated that the amount of zero-point energy in the space volume of a single light bulb is powerful enough to bring all the world’s oceans to the boiling point!

http://aetherforce.com/kozyrev-aether-time-and-torsion/


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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #197 on: January 10, 2018, 05:03:30 PM »
In an attempt to explain the low resonance frequency (285KHz) of the two bifilar interwound coil pairs (each separate resonance frequencies at 3.5Mhz)
i treated this bifilar coil pair as being a series arrangement of a coil (130uH), a capacitor (2.3nF) and again a coil (130uH), see picture.

The both coils in series would yield a total series inductance of 260uH (130 + 130) and using this resonant calculator  http://www.1728.org/resfreq.htm
i calculated the series resonant frequency to be 206KHz, which is not close.

Using instead the inductance of a single coil (130uH) it calculates the resonance frequency to be 290Khz which is smack on.
So it seems that these bifilar coil pairs behave like a series LC circuit of 1 coil and 1 cap (or perhaps 2 of those series LC circuits, but overlapping).



I created a coil system like the lower part in the picture by winding  2 separate coils (10m wire / 63 turns each) split by a 3nF capacitor, but this
series LC circuit strongly keeps on resonating at 2.37Mhz which is the resonance frequency of the separate coils.

So the bifilar coil pairs do not behave like a normal series circuit of a coil, a cap and a coil.

Itsu

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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #198 on: January 12, 2018, 04:34:48 AM »

What about this statement:

Established mainstream physicists Dr John Wheeler and Dr Richard Feynman calculated that the amount of zero-point energy in the space volume of a single light bulb is powerful enough to bring all the world’s oceans to the boiling point!

http://aetherforce.com/kozyrev-aether-time-and-torsion/


Itsu


To that statement, I would raise a suspicious eyebrow.
First, Wheeler was the professor, Feynman his student.
It would be unlikely that they both are accredited for such
calculations.
Furthermore, I say show me the equations.


If they were likely to even exist, they would’ve readily available
to the thousands of physicists searching for ZPE.


My personal calculations show the energy to be very small:
orders of magnitude smaller than the Earths ambient electric field
I mentioned above.




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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #199 on: January 12, 2018, 08:56:06 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blojNMW-Ias

https://journals.aps.org/pra/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevA.40.4857

You may also like to look at the work of Julian Schwinger, who shared the 1965 Nobel Prize with Richard Feynman.

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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #199 on: January 12, 2018, 08:56:06 AM »
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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #200 on: January 12, 2018, 10:07:45 AM »
Mr Tinsel many of us are aware of dark energy, hyperspace, and latitudinal punch {faster than light technology}if you can call it a wave Tesla patented the phenomena over 100 years ago with his boat demonstration, it was Oxford university and Marconi who bastardized (a Donald Smith term) the situation, the issue and problem here is collection technology!  ;D 8) :o :-\

Any ideas to sling in the pot other than 30 to 100 foot back garden poles  ?  ;D

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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #201 on: January 12, 2018, 10:51:34 AM »
In an attempt to explain the low resonance frequency (285KHz) of the two bifilar interwound coil pairs (each separate resonance frequencies at 3.5Mhz)
i treated this bifilar coil pair as being a series arrangement of a coil (130uH), a capacitor (2.3nF) and again a coil (130uH), see picture.

The both coils in series would yield a total series inductance of 260uH (130 + 130) and using this resonant calculator  http://www.1728.org/resfreq.htm
i calculated the series resonant frequency to be 206KHz, which is not close.

Using instead the inductance of a single coil (130uH) it calculates the resonance frequency to be 290Khz which is smack on.
So it seems that these bifilar coil pairs behave like a series LC circuit of 1 coil and 1 cap (or perhaps 2 of those series LC circuits, but overlapping).



I created a coil system like the lower part in the picture by winding  2 separate coils (10m wire / 63 turns each) split by a 3nF capacitor, but this
series LC circuit strongly keeps on resonating at 2.37Mhz which is the resonance frequency of the separate coils.

So the bifilar coil pairs do not behave like a normal series circuit of a coil, a cap and a coil.

Itsu

This is very interesting. This means they will tune together and you get the bonus of the lower freq

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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #201 on: January 12, 2018, 10:51:34 AM »
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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #202 on: January 12, 2018, 10:54:44 AM »

To that statement, I would raise a suspicious eyebrow.
First, Wheeler was the professor, Feynman his student.
It would be unlikely that they both are accredited for such
calculations.
Furthermore, I say show me the equations.


If they were likely to even exist, they would’ve readily available
to the thousands of physicists searching for ZPE.


My personal calculations show the energy to be very small:
orders of magnitude smaller than the Earths ambient electric field
I mentioned above.

Wheeler and Misner

http://www.cheniere.org/images/geometrodynamicsP129a.jpg

J. A. Wheeler and C. Misner, Geometrodynamics, Academic Press, New York, 1962.

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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #203 on: January 12, 2018, 12:16:09 PM »
The both coils in series would yield a total series inductance of 260uH (130 + 130) and using this resonant calculator  http://www.1728.org/resfreq.htm
i calculated the series resonant frequency to be 206KHz, which is not close.


Hi Itsu, hope you are fine :)

Coils themselves also possess some inter-turn capacity which might also be in series with your measured 2.1nF. This probably takes down the total capacity close to 1.2nF.

regards

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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #204 on: January 12, 2018, 12:21:09 PM »
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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #205 on: January 12, 2018, 02:19:22 PM »
Hi Itsu, hope you are fine :)

Coils themselves also possess some inter-turn capacity which might also be in series with your measured 2.1nF. This probably takes down the total capacity close to 1.2nF.

regards

Hi Jeg,

i am fine thanks,  hope you are too.

Yes, you are right, but i calculated the inter-turn capacity of my coils by using the same resonance calculator and using the self resonance frequency (3.5Mhz) of the coil and
the measured inductance (130uH) as to be only 16pF.

So i don't think that will influence the result to much.


Regards itsu

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Re: Pulling energy from the ambient energy field using a coil capacitor
« Reply #206 on: January 12, 2018, 02:53:32 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blojNMW-Ias

https://journals.aps.org/pra/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevA.40.4857

You may also like to look at the work of Julian Schwinger, who shared the 1965 Nobel Prize with Richard Feynman.


I am by no means minimizing the man's contributions to quantum dynamics.
The equations that govern the quantum fluctuations, the Casmir effect, and other
particle phenomena, deal with a cosmological unit of measurement that is relatively
infinitesimal, compared to our human condition.


Hmm..... allow me to put this in another way.


The unit is measurably one trillionth of an Erg per cubic centimeter.
One Erg is 1 x (10^-7) Joule.


Hardly enough in a coffee cup to boil the water in a coffee cup.
Much less "all the oceans in the world"


I would like to see the alleged equations that lead to this conclusion.

 

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