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Author Topic: magnetic flux shielding idea  (Read 15781 times)

Offline psyd

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magnetic flux shielding idea
« on: April 21, 2005, 05:57:08 AM »
An idea that has been in my garage for a few decades.
Shielding the unwanted pole of magnets using flux shielding mechanisms to provide perpetual motion in a rotary device.
The best revolution number acheived to date from an itial spin of 10 rpm.
is seven (7  complete turns of mechanism.after initial spin up.
Any body interested in my achievement to date?.

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magnetic flux shielding idea
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Offline prometheus_effect

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Re: magnetic flux shielding idea
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2005, 06:56:03 AM »
Hi Psyd,

How did you shield your magnets?

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Offline psyd

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Re: magnetic flux shielding idea
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2005, 07:06:01 AM »
Created a monopole by use of rare  earth magnetic shield. Commonly available metals are fused as an alloy in 2 to 6 ratio to stop hysteresus of the metal causing excessive drag, but as stated in a previous post it comes to rest after seven revolutions.
( My machine is called as such has four contr rotating sets of vector spaced "arms " holding the shields and flux gate modules. 

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Re: magnetic flux shielding idea
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2005, 05:38:53 AM »
Hello

did you spin it at 10rpm first, still little confused about this. How are you making this flux gate. My best record is 8 mins running then stopped some years ago. Like to know more.

Thks
Wayne


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Re: magnetic flux shielding idea
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2005, 12:04:26 AM »
Greetings everyone!..

  I have an idea too... (who doesn't).. I'm new @ this.. I've checked other forums but they are too personal.. This one seems more open-minded than the others.

  I've already did some 3-d drawings of mine, but I need a simulator.. A 2D simulator will do.. one that can show me what's happening with the gears and the magnet & shield position. I have a 3DStudio but don't know how to use it. As I said, a 2-D mechanical simulator will do!..

  Any ideas of a free, simple one?

  Thx!

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Re: magnetic flux shielding idea
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2005, 12:04:26 AM »
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Offline freeenergyman2005

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Re: magnetic flux shielding idea
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2005, 09:59:55 PM »
I was first attracted to the idea of magnetic shielding  in the 80's, but shelved my drawings when I realized no material was available with the properties necessary to shield magnets. Around six months ago I stumbled across a reference by Tom Bearden on a Symetrical Magnet Motor. Here it is:

http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/Inventors/Bearden/SymmetricalPermanentMagnetMotor/index.html

Then, around December 2004 I bought a sheet of Mumetal from Physlink. Mumetal can be cut with scissors and is highly permeable to magnetic flux. I tried every permutation I could imagine to shield the approaching like poles, but to no avail. The problem is that Mumetal is also attracted to magnets, hence, the age old problem of breaking past the gate.

Best of luck,

Howard

Offline KoenL

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Re: magnetic flux shielding idea
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2005, 03:43:24 PM »
Making a magnetic 'monopole' I assume is much like
creating a 'single side magnet', which involved arranging
several magnets in such a way that the flux gets
'rerouted' according to a planned path...
I don't think this is really creating a monopole, nor
magnetic shielding, but rather just smart flux rerouting...
Which does not mean it can be very usefull.
I'll attach a pic of an example rerouted flux path.

Kind regards,
Koen

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Re: magnetic flux shielding idea
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2005, 03:43:24 PM »
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Offline hartiberlin

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Re: magnetic flux shielding idea
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2005, 03:54:44 PM »
Hi All,
check out this Halbach array :

http://www.matchrockets.com/ether/halbach.html

Offline KoenL

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Re: magnetic flux shielding idea
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2005, 04:46:53 PM »
Stefan,

yes, that is almost exactly what I'm talking about.
I hadn't seen that site before, but toying around with a number
of magnets it is very easy to figure out that something like
that works.
In the case of my eaxmple there would still be some flux on the sides of
the magnet array, whereas there is as good as none in the case
that is shown on that site. The flux 'direction' or polarity is different
in both cases, though. But the fact remains that that is what I
was talking about.
Thanks for adding that link! It's good to have an observant
monitor. ;-)

Oh, and of course, in my last post in this thread, I meant to
say "That does not mean it is NOT usefull", instead of
"... it is usefull". Sorry about that, I was a bit too quick on the trigger. ;-)

regards,
Koen

Offline dracozny

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Re: magnetic flux shielding idea
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2005, 09:30:26 AM »
i think some pc speaker magnet configurations may appear similar to a monopole in one speaker i found 2 magnets strapped with brass coated steel there was a solid disk on one side then a ring magnet on the other with both north ends attached to the steel with glue, although the magnets are quite willing to fight each other to stay on the steel, the steel piece then has a protrusion going through the ring magnet the result is a south magnet with a very strong north center.
just an observation that may be helpfull :)

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Re: magnetic flux shielding idea
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2005, 09:30:26 AM »
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Offline kenbo0422

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Re: magnetic flux shielding idea
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2005, 04:09:01 AM »
Stefan,

I think it was the halbach array that got me thinking about the smot.  The idea of twisting the field, so to speak, to allow the magnetic influence to shift and let the ball or roller leave without any problems.

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Re: magnetic flux shielding idea
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2005, 02:55:01 AM »
It might work.

The major problem I'm having right now is trying to mold a circular track to the rollercoaster formation of magnets I have built up. It's easy enough to build a straight track, but I need to be able to manipulate a circular track so as to experiment with height and distance between magnets.

Howard


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Re: magnetic flux shielding idea
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2005, 12:52:06 PM »
Hi

try harden steel like a saw blade. I believe it is the harding process that does the trick.

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Re: magnetic flux shielding idea
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2007, 02:23:55 AM »

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Offline Paul-R

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Re: magnetic flux shielding idea
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2007, 03:56:29 PM »
The major problem I'm having right now is trying to mold a circular track to the rollercoaster formation of magnets.
Sometimes, what you need can be found ready made in a scrapped
piece of equipment. Can you give any specific details of the track
you need? Presumably, the circular track MUST be non magnetic.
could it be a an hard wood? It could be turned on a wood lathe
very easily by any craft wood turner.
Paul.

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