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Author Topic: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?  (Read 16904 times)

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #105 on: February 11, 2017, 07:37:11 AM »

You see first off what I am presenting is not just talk, I am presenting experiments that people can do and prove to themselves.


John


Suppose I lacked the particular senses required to "feel" this.
Or perhaps i am not susceptible to the hallucinatory response
These images and shapes instill upon certain types of people.


What experiments can I do to prove this "energy" exists?

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Offline allcanadian

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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #106 on: February 11, 2017, 09:27:53 AM »
@smoky2
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Ed wrote his book before most of us were born.
Scientists today still don't understand it.
But there are things science has learned from it
And those things don't fit into our current model.
I use the term magnetic current to describe the work
Of Ed.


I think they do fit into the current model however it is dependent on the observer/scientists perspective. Nobody likes that guy rocking the boat unless there rocking it to.

AC
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Offline aether22

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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #107 on: February 11, 2017, 10:19:23 AM »

Suppose I lacked the particular senses required to "feel" this.
Or perhaps i am not susceptible to the hallucinatory response
These images and shapes instill upon certain types of people.


What experiments can I do to prove this "energy" exists?


It's not hallucinatory, again people have reported feeling a sensation without any knowledge of what caused it.


You might lack the ability to feel it, though MOST people can, there is a non-trivial minority that don't feel it.


As for experiments you can do otherwise, I do have only one idea, and that is to expose yourself to certain images for some period (hours to a few days) and then expose yourself to a different batch.


One batch will likely have you feeling incredibly wiped out and needing to go foe a sleep after a while.


The other will re-energize you.


How fast this happens I am not sure as I had been exposed to one type for weeks on end as I made them stronger, getting more and more tired.


As for more empirical effects, these can be gained I have no doubt if you have a Gas Discharge Visualization device.


Also even without the ability to feel it yourself you could easily find others who can feel it, and based on their ability to identify blind where the energy is from you could gain confidence in it's reality.


You could also try methods used by Joseph Parr (measuring slight resistance changes in a do nothing coil) etc...
Or Patrick Flanagan's method with a pancake coil wound of lamp cord passing very slight leakage current between the 2 coils.


I have also heard of another device that was silk covered bifilar coil that passed different current amounts.


There is also the glass breaking effect I found, which while not "reliable" and certainly to a degree dangerous, it might be an effect you could replicate.


Mainly though I am not looking for people who can't feel the energy.


And if you have some psychological hang up that makes you decide that energy that we can feel but can't reliably measure by scientific means should not be studied by the non-technological means "at hand" then this isn't for you.


However there is one last option, and while hugely flawed as a strategy if you can't feel the energy, you could listen to what I say, ask me more, ask me about the techniques and then employs these techniques in your experimentation that you were going to do anyway.


Because the principles I have discovered can be easily employed in a regular experiment you would build anyway.


John






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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #108 on: February 11, 2017, 10:26:06 AM »
AC, I agree this is a life purpose, a calling not hobby.


BTW can you point me to info on your 10W Faraday cage busting circuit?






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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #109 on: February 13, 2017, 08:54:34 PM »
I don't mean hallucinatory by means of something you
Believe in or even know about.
I'm thinking more in terms of like a mirage in the desert.
Or the heat waves on a long summer highway


All but a small insignificant minority of people respond to
Commercials. And after viewing some images or sounds,
 go out and buy things with their hard earned
Money for no logical reason at all.
Billions of $ in research have gone on to understand this
And even more spent on using it effectively.


If your technology really creates phenomena in Human Subjects
I am sure we can find "something" useful to do with it...


All morality aside....  please tell me about the experiences of
Unsuspecting Subjects in your "waiting room", that were subjected
To this "energy".

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Offline aether22

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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #110 on: February 14, 2017, 06:05:41 AM »
I don't mean hallucinatory by means of something you
Believe in or even know about.
I'm thinking more in terms of like a mirage in the desert.
Or the heat waves on a long summer highway


All but a small insignificant minority of people respond to
Commercials. And after viewing some images or sounds,
 go out and buy things with their hard earned
Money for no logical reason at all.
Billions of $ in research have gone on to understand this
And even more spent on using it effectively.


If your technology really creates phenomena in Human Subjects
I am sure we can find "something" useful to do with it...


All morality aside....  please tell me about the experiences of
Unsuspecting Subjects in your "waiting room", that were subjected
To this "energy".


I never intentionally subjected people as a test, though I am willing to try...


But the occasion you are referring to was when I gave a coil to a friend, he had it in his pocket and when he was in a waiting room a person he was sitting next to could feel it in his foot and asked what he had in his pocket beaming energy at his foot.


I have had several other instances, though none as "perfect" as that where someone has felt something with seemingly insufficient information for them to feel it as a placebo effect.


I sometimes feel something and don't know if it's a "normal" thing like a cobweb or yet of air, or if it is energy, sometimes the energy feels distinct, other times (but seldom) it seems like regular sensations and if you feel it then you have to investigate to see which it is.


Perhaps when if feels like regular sensation that would be a good time to hunt for a physical effect.


Another time I was building a coil and someone walked past and felt energy brush their leg, this person was a stranger and had no knowledge of my work.


There is a test I could do, there are some forms of the design that make people very tired, aI could test that, and then the reverse form to wake them up.


I have at times also tested  myself with blind tests and I can identify the energy.  Albeit I am somewhat weary of such experiments because this energy is effected by the subconscious and it is possible that the mind could effect the energy and the ability to feel to "corrupt" the results, still the best way to do such a thing I think would be to have a bar of wood, about one hand span wide and 6ft long, people who can feel energy could scan their hand along the bar and place a marker where they feel the energy.


This seems the best kind of test as it does not create an expectation of one place for people to visualize energy, but unlike a large wall they don't have too much area to try and feel to be practical.


I have however made images, both looking about identical but one being subtly sabotaged, people did feel the difference between them, but it was not done as a proper test.


One person I have given images to who could feel them tried to move then to a place on the screen they don't know (unclear how they did that) and feel blind where they are, and that worked for for him.


John




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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #111 on: February 14, 2017, 06:38:46 AM »
I would be interested in focusing on the effect itself
In its most prominent state.
The 'feelings' or sensations associated with it
At this point conjecture and explaination of the why's
Are not important.
Most people don't know why seeing that little teddy bear
Hug a towel makes them go out and buy some dryer sheets...


But they do it. That is what's important.
The 'beam' thing is interesting.
Is there a way to aim multiple 'beams' at a single target?
Does this increase the effects?
If enough of this "energy" is in one place,
Could there be yet unseen manifestations?


Perhaps a social experiment of large scale
Like aim it so it forms an invisible wall.
Then observe as random people try to 'feel' out this wall.
Ponder the situation, then the majority of them
Will probably choose a different path to get around it.

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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #112 on: February 14, 2017, 07:40:12 AM »

>Is there a way to aim multiple 'beams' at a single target?


Yes, and the energy will be stronger and compressed.

>Does this increase the effects?
>If enough of this "energy" is in one place,
>Could there be yet unseen manifestations?


Could be, one of the main correlations I have found about how to get this energy to do something is for it to build up to a compressed state.
But then we are moving into the area of trying to generate obvious effects, which is my preferred direction.

>Perhaps a social experiment of large scale
>Like aim it so it forms an invisible wall.


I beam would be easier, but sure.

I have considered doing such an experiment.  It would be best in a waiting room type area where people have time to observe rather than hurriedly walk by ignoring anything they do feel.


But up to this point I have not tried such an experiment.  I could make a much stronger energy with electrical input, that is what I meant to look into today but got distracted.

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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #113 on: February 14, 2017, 08:49:04 AM »
What about without any sort of input
Maybe one thousand of your coils
All aimed at one focal point
And from this focal point experiments
Could be performed.


For me, the effects must be observable
In some obvious way
Human sensations don't really count in my book
We need empirical evidence

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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #114 on: February 14, 2017, 08:55:32 AM »
On the other hand, if our goal was to manipulate the masses.....
Then human sensations DO count.......
You may have stumbled into something that has
Profound implications in the advertising industry
Imagine "feeling" a beam of energy coming from your toy.
Even while it sits on the shelf waiting for you to walk past
And this caused you to buy the toy.

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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #115 on: February 14, 2017, 09:33:22 AM »
What about without any sort of input
Maybe one thousand of your coils
All aimed at one focal point
And from this focal point experiments
Could be performed.


For me, the effects must be observable
In some obvious way
Human sensations don't really count in my book
We need empirical evidence


The easiest way to make it stronger is to improve the technology.
I could more easily make a 1,000 times more powerful coil.


However someone who didn't feel energy won't likely feel it still.


But someone who can feel energy will go "whoa, that's a lot stronger".

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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #116 on: February 14, 2017, 10:30:52 AM »
On the other hand, if our goal was to manipulate the masses.....
Then human sensations DO count.......
You may have stumbled into something that has
Profound implications in the advertising industry
Imagine "feeling" a beam of energy coming from your toy.
Even while it sits on the shelf waiting for you to walk past
And this caused you to buy the toy.


I think this technology can be put to slightly bigger goals.


It might be possible to market it as some kind of spiritual energy device.
Alas, to do that is as much about the marketing as it is about anything else.


While you might discount stuff you that might be felt, my best hope is a few others won't be so cynical of human sensation as a meter and will feel the energy and be interested, demeaning to know how it works.


Otherwise it's back to the grind stone to try and crack this wide open.





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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #117 on: February 15, 2017, 09:02:19 AM »
If the sensations were empirical- meaning everyone felt them
In the same manner, every time.....
Then this method of research may prove useful.
Otherwise the entire concept parallels with experiments
On social behavior and/or psychology.


Personally I think product packaging that could be "felt"
While a consumer is walking down the aisles of a store
Would be an invaluable technology, likely to make you
the next "Bill Gates".


Even if it only works on 96.4%

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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #118 on: February 16, 2017, 01:07:19 AM »
IMO empirical does not mean perfect consistency.


Rather it means objectively provable by data.


So if a test was conducted and those who said they could feel the energy were able to a high or even perfect degree able to identify where the energy is in a blind test... Then that would be empirical data by my reckoning.


After all 100% of people wouldn't feel regular sensations the same (some are less sensitive to regular sensations), and if you asked people to read the value of a meter, analog or digital they might not give the same answers, vision issues and dyslexia aside some will read the values differently (different angle on the analog meter, or read the lower of higher values in a changing digital meter).


But we don;'t write off all forms of measurement just because there is some degree of variation.


In the same way we all know that visual hallucinations or mistakes can be made, but we still trust our sight.


So while I agree that there is more "work" involved turning this into an empirical result with just sensation, and I might even be disinterested in the prospect, but still it can be empirically validated with just subjective sensation).


John





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Re: Is anyone seriously interested in Free Energy Physics?
« Reply #119 on: February 24, 2017, 07:42:58 PM »
In spite of I am new in this thread, i am seriously interested in Free Energy Physics spec of solid states.
After several years research I believe that OU phenomenon can occur in non linear systems only.
IMO main equation of magneto dynamics is Phi=LI. Because of non/linear behavior of ferromagnetic materials this equation is
Phi=L(i)*I(L) as we see on our oscilloscopes also.
So we can this equation rewrite to Phi(t)=L(t)*I(t).
We all knows (I believe) that by Faraday law inducted EMF = -dPhi/dt = -Phi'
Further we can make derivation of Phi'= L(t)*I(t)'+ I(t)*L(t)'
and we see, we have possibilities to modify behavior of our circuits during increasing Phi and decreasing one.
IMO this is way to OU.
 



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