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Offline Cherryman

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2017, 12:40:01 AM »
Why do we have to get into these "ego battles"? And why is the keyboard so much more used than the workbench? I have very primitively tested the idea and now am at
the workbench making a measurable setup to see for myself. Why doesn't anyone else
do the same?   It must be a disease.......

Get your butt out to the workbench and see for yourself...



Norman


Wise words Sir.


This site has been infected with words exceeding action


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Re: Magnet force shield
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Offline norman6538

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2017, 03:13:03 PM »
Discouraging test results. My first test was a crude setup that used my hand to feel
the ease of the pull and thus release the repel force but when I replaced my hand with a real arm with more precision there is a sticky spot.

First if the magnet is not evenly placed it will either hold there or repel out from
between the repelling magnets.

Secondly when it comes out from between the repelling magnets it has a sticky
spot where it leaves.

I will try further precision to get real measurements but I'm not encouraged
at this point.

What does your bench work tell us???
I'd like to hear about your bench work. Its not really that hard unless you have
no bench skills.

Norman

PS if the magnet between the repelling magnets is too close to the like pole
end it will repel and push out. If it is too close to the unlike pole end it will
hold there in place.

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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2017, 04:16:17 PM »

An other possible venue would be a motor at the atomic level embedded in a strange molecule, turning with the same speed (or a harmonic) as the electron zips around the core of an atom.

Greetings, Conrad


Maybe if we used a strange and exotic material
Perhaps Element #26?
Maybe, just maybe, we could get all the tiny atoms to all synchronize
their electron orbits so the bulk of the material radiated at a harmonic
Of the atoms themselves......


Hmm

Offline Floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2017, 04:28:43 PM »
@all

Here is an alignment with 3 magnets.

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Offline Floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2017, 05:23:32 PM »
@Norman

Below, are details (drawings) of some magnet interactions.
These were posted in another topic. 
These drawings DO NOT depict all possible combinations.

Understand the interactions for your self.

Why doesn't the previous drawing (my drawing) work? 
                       (magnet force shield 2-1) 
                              (shown above).
(it will not "work" in the way it was stated in those included descriptions).

It's a clear picture/ drawing.  The mid magnet can be installed and uninstalled without
resistance from the magnetic forces, but its wrong.

I could explain whats wrong with it.  But the drawings, explain what is wrong with it,
My descriptions (in the drawings) contradict what would happen in the examples.

I understand your statement that you have countered a sticky spot.  But what does this mean to me ?
Nothing !  As to how or where or why, I have no idea. You gave no details.

With out clear written descriptions or drawings or photos or something clearly stated and to the point.
I cant respond to your posts. meaningfully.  If I don't know what you are talking about, I don't know
what you are talking about.
                       regards
                          floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2017, 05:23:32 PM »
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Offline norman6538

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2017, 05:39:23 PM »
Floor none of the above drawings are what I did. But here is what is used for testing.

http://overunity.com/17097/magnet-force-shield/msg498602/#msg498602
magnet force shield 1.png
text at top 2 large magnets (as repel poles)
text  at bottom 5 small magnets

And your text said "pull the center magnets toward you"
which turns the repel force on and push it back into place to turn it off......

so here is the sequence that would show work done by the permanent magnets.

1. easily pull the magnet toward you with the
repelling magnets held in place and then
2.  release them to do work and then
3. you can easily push that magnet back and
4. move the work done magnet back in place
making a full reset to repeat the steps.
 
Norman

Offline Floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2017, 05:48:27 PM »
One more for the road

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Offline Floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2017, 06:01:07 PM »
@Norman6538

Was there a balance (nearly) between the attractions and reputations as you
withdrew the mid magnets.

If so, there will be no sticky point, unless the magnets accidentally are allowed to
move side ways or to twist.

What did you observe, specifically ?

Offline norman6538

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2017, 08:55:00 PM »
Attached is a photo of my setup. I used 2 7/8l x 1 7/8w x 3/8 thick magnets  like poles facing each other. and a magnet stack 1 1/4 long   7/8 w  3/8 thick. The magnet stack is surrounded with thin white aluminum like rain spouts. You can see N marked on the
left and S on the right.  The black on the right is tape and glue to hold the magnet
stack in a firm position.

The magnet stack is mounted so it swings toward the camera
and as you can see it is sitting at the sticky spot half way pushed out.

I will make another setup with a magnet stack longer than the repelling magnets to see if that changes anything.

Norman
 

Offline Floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2017, 09:26:02 PM »
Thats a trip Norman.

I don't know what is what in your photo, but I can tell you this much,
I don't think I can get any data and / or expect that your set up has
any value to the topic as an "experiment".   Its not precision enough.

If building is not "your thing" you might be better off  in hiring someone
to build a test device for you.

                     thanks for the attempt any way
                regards                   
                     Floor

                  PS
                I built my test device over a 6 week period.
                Lots of hours (over 200) to design / build it. 

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Offline norman6538

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2017, 12:00:13 AM »
Floor,

I did not appreciate your slam.

 Encouragement would have been far better.

I did make a second one with smaller magnets and it performs better.
So I am encouraged.


Norman

Offline Floor

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2017, 05:52:22 PM »
@Norman6538

I apologize.

I appreciate your supporting this exploration / project, and mostly what I appreciate is
that you are a person of integrity on this forum.  Also I respect that you are willing to
see for your self and are neither a blind supporter, nor a auto pilot naysayer.

I meant what I said about having a test bed built, not as a slam, but as a real suggestion. 
...................................................
I don't think its a bad thing if some one is not a "craftsman", though perhaps you are one ?

I do not know this for a certainty either way... as to whether or not you have
or do not have the skill sets for replications.  It is not a put down.  You might be an
excellent school teacher or rancher or house painter or... you name it, you might also
be an excellent builder.

I do Know that in order to satisfy the reasonable critics, a degree of excellence is called for (rightly so).

I do Know that in order to satisfy the reasonable critics, a degree of excellence is called for (rightly so).
                           Again I apologize for the note of sourness in that post.


                     thanks for your diligence
                           best wishes
                                   floor


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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2017, 06:01:28 PM »
@Norman6538

Also, I appreciate your speaking up about it.


Please find the attached video link      http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59r978

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2017, 10:16:47 PM »
@Norman6538

Also, I appreciate your speaking up about it.


Please find the attached video link      http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59r978

                            floor

Thanks Floor, I have seen too many well build devices that did not work that were a waste of time an money and I myself did some of them. Therefore I have learned to I start with a rough rapid prototype and then refine as I go. Today I am up to verson 3 and it is doing quite well. I hope to have measurement numbers within a day if not too swamped.

Thanks for your kind words - I read too much into your statement.

Have you done anything with the drawing that has the repelling magnets
and the stack between? Turning that magnetic repel force on and off easily really excites me.

I expect this to be my 3rd OU permanent magnet setup that I made and when you get to 3 devices that show more out than in its past time to wake up world.

VERY excited, - far better than the superbowl.

Norman

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Offline norman6538

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Re: Magnet force shield
« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2017, 11:08:52 PM »
My tests show work out to work in ratio of 1.82. So I now have made 3 OU devices that demonstrate that not all energy is conserved when permanent magnets are configured properly to demonstrate work done.

CONGRATULATIONS Floor.

Norman

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Re: Magnet force shield
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