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Offline webby1

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Re: Simplifying what we have observed
« Reply #75 on: March 23, 2017, 04:04:39 PM »
You ever notice that current is coulombs per second?

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Re: Simplifying what we have observed
« Reply #76 on: March 23, 2017, 04:12:10 PM »
You ever notice that sometimes if you are given the pieces to a puzzle you don't see the solution,, even if you look at it 6 times?


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Re: Simplifying what we have observed
« Reply #77 on: March 23, 2017, 04:15:04 PM »
Some days you can do the math and it just does not seem to add up.

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Re: Simplifying what we have observed
« Reply #78 on: March 25, 2017, 12:01:23 AM »

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"You ever notice that current is coulombs per second?"

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Re: Simplifying what we have observed
« Reply #79 on: March 25, 2017, 02:46:48 PM »
If time does not matter as in it is only for power calculations and power is not energy,, then what is the potential stored between a magnet and a coil?

How much energy is that then?

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Re: Simplifying what we have observed
« Reply #80 on: March 25, 2017, 08:20:06 PM »
There is an infinite amount :)

Barring the obvious limitations of what the wire can pass and stuff,,,

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Re: Simplifying what we have observed
« Reply #81 on: March 30, 2017, 05:52:07 PM »

You want to throw a baseball hard enough so that it transits from point A to point B in 1 second,, now you want to throw the baseball hard enough so that it transits from point A to point B in 0.1 seconds.

Your throwing motion is the same for both and it is the same baseball.

You need to throw the ball faster, the mass of the ball is the same and so the energy needed to move the ball from point A to point B is the same.

When you throw it faster you are using less time to impart the energy.

When you throw it faster you have f=ma so the more the "a" the more the "f" for the same mass but less time.

If you do NOT consider time and work=F*D then at an instant of observation you have more energy being imparted the faster you throw the ball,, keeping in mind that the energy needed for any speed you want is actually the same amount but it is condensed into a smaller time slice and so *appears* to be larger.

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Re: Simplifying what we have observed
« Reply #82 on: March 30, 2017, 09:10:48 PM »
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Re: Simplifying what we have observed
« Reply #83 on: April 02, 2017, 07:13:27 AM »
What could be the benefit of being able to pass current through a coil with only the ohmic resistance of the wire to impede the flow of current?

With current equal to coulombs per second,, is there anything else that may be manifested with some link to coulombs per second?

Could the manifestation of this "thing" be useful in some way?

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Re: Simplifying what we have observed
« Reply #84 on: April 02, 2017, 07:21:31 AM »
I have asked myself one question so many times that I don't even think about it any more.

Does a successful mathematical model prove the concept the mathematical model was built for?

No it does not.

With a successful mathematical model you still need an empirical model to substantiate the mathematical model,, a testbed.

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Re: Simplifying what we have observed
« Reply #85 on: April 02, 2017, 10:06:54 PM »
A new set of rules have to be written ,every time you add a new component.
One magnet passing a coil is one set of rules, one magnet passing 2 coils is another , 2 magnets passing 2 coils is different again.
Placing the interacting fields in the right place at the right time is  the answer.
You can't eliminate Lenz ,you need to use it's effect to help you.
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Re: Simplifying what we have observed
« Reply #86 on: April 03, 2017, 12:17:06 AM »
That is one way of looking at it.

My "probable" solutions are not the only solutions,, so the big trick is to figure out many different solutions so that the actual working component and relationship can be understood.

The testbed I am playing with does not produce any "new" energy,, it just uses forms of energy in different ways than what is normal,, and yet the math used is still that which we know and understand and supports what I am playing with.


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Re: Simplifying what we have observed
« Reply #87 on: April 04, 2017, 01:00:24 AM »
I agree 100 percent.
It's too bad that everybody uses the actions of a single interaction, and then think it is the same for multiple interactions.
I,m currently using the magnetic fields produced by said interactions,as anybody is, but trying them at different points along their propagation,
it does make a difference.
Use the collapsing field, to enhance the propagating field.
The influence of a field produces , an opposite field ,the hard part is ,for how long?
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Re: Simplifying what we have observed
« Reply #88 on: April 04, 2017, 02:05:01 AM »
The only way I can think of without having all the fancy equipment is trial and error.

You could look up the known formulas\values for propagation through different materials to try and narrow down the scope of ranges,, but I think the differences might be small.

Sounds like what you are trying is way more difficult than what I am trying,, I like simple things :)


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Re: Simplifying what we have observed
« Reply #89 on: April 06, 2017, 12:08:21 AM »
Yeah no expensive equipment here , just trial and error , I like things simple too.
But the more you add , the more it changes.
Use a collapsing field next to generating field , that are both using the same magnet rotor.
Now place the generating field 90 degrees away from the collapsing field.
It's not OU but it makes a difference in how the rotor behaves.
You can use the lenz to help the motoring but it won't be enough to sustain motoring , then add loads ,more new rules.
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