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Author Topic: Smudge's Musings on Electro-kinetic Potential in the Earth’s A Field  (Read 8199 times)

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Below is a link to Cyril's recent paper on this topic [with more to come ]
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The magnetic field of the Earth (here taken to be truly spherical) can be considered to
emanate from a magnetic dipole of magnitude m=8.24×1022 Am2 at its centre [1]. Although
the magnetic field at the surface is rather weak, the same cannot be said for the magnetic
scalar and vector potentials. The huge magnetic scalar potential is considered in my paper [9]
where the possibility exists to use it for gaining electro-magnetic thrust, and possibly also
overunity systems. This present paper looks at the magnetic vector potential.


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Re: Smudge's Musings on Electro-kinetic Potential in the Earth’s A Field
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2017, 07:14:01 PM »
second paper below
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This present paper deals with movement of conduction electrons at low drift velocities and
suggests possible ways that induced potential might give rise to anomalous results. A further
paper will deal with electrodes on spinning discs where much greater velocities can be
achieved.
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Re: Smudge's Musings on Electro-kinetic Potential in the Earth’s A Field
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2017, 02:25:39 PM »
.Here Cyril has added an image for consideration .

more to come







                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               

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Re: Smudge's Musings on Electro-kinetic Potential in the Earth’s A Field
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2017, 05:26:38 PM »
Much more work being done

here

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3395.msg59214;topicseen#msg59214

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Re: Smudge's Musings on Electro-kinetic Potential in the Earth’s A Field
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2017, 06:01:11 PM »
Cyril has posted another PDF

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The previous suggestion for a rotating disc assumed that electrodes following a
curved trajectory would obtain some induced charge by that movement. That may not
be the case and it may be necessary to deliberately place charge on an electrode so
that this quantity of charge q moving from a positive electro-kinetic potential + v·A to
a negative potential - v·A gains or loses electro-kinetic energy 2q(v·A). This would
require the device to include a HV DC generator that supplies the charge via spark
gaps. The following figure shows this.

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image and more info in PDF below

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Re: Smudge's Musings on Electro-kinetic Potential in the Earth’s A Field
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2017, 06:01:11 PM »
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Re: Smudge's Musings on Electro-kinetic Potential in the Earth’s A Field
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2017, 07:20:01 PM »
The A vector field runs outside an air cored coil but if a ferrous core is added it pulls the field in close to the core. The field is pos so will be attracted to a cap with one leg attached to ground.
Im glad someone is realising this is the field that is responsible for energy exchange. Of course it is relative to the magnetic field so all calculations work.


The testatika has an air core coil in the center of the wheel, the vanes run in an collect the A vector field of this coil.
The current run through the coil is dc, a coil powered with dc will have a centered spiral field, a coil powered with ac will have a broad erratic field.


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Re: Smudge's Musings on Electro-kinetic Potential in the Earth’s A Field
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2017, 10:19:14 AM »
Hi Dave, So if the coil is AC does that mean the field now swings pos to neg ?
With a half bridge on each coil lead you can now charge 2 caps?
Thanks artv

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Re: Smudge's Musings on Electro-kinetic Potential in the Earth’s A Field
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2017, 10:19:14 AM »
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Re: Smudge's Musings on Electro-kinetic Potential in the Earth’s A Field
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2017, 01:05:32 PM »
The coil is dc, the vanes are collecting the A vector field.

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Re: Smudge's Musings on Electro-kinetic Potential in the Earth’s A Field
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2017, 01:16:07 PM »
This is how to pull energy from a dc powered coil without pulsing it.
Its ironic that we have been using wind mills for years and now an electric mill is the answer we need.
No ferrous material around the coil, you want the field to run outside the coil in the path of the vanes.

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Re: Smudge's Musings on Electro-kinetic Potential in the Earth’s A Field
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2017, 01:22:02 PM »
If we think of earth as a magnet the magnetic fields run south to north so telluric currents run west to east.


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Re: Smudge's Musings on Electro-kinetic Potential in the Earth’s A Field
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2017, 01:22:02 PM »
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Re: Smudge's Musings on Electro-kinetic Potential in the Earth’s A Field
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2017, 01:35:17 PM »
The telluric currents would be a dc system.

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Re: Smudge's Musings on Electro-kinetic Potential in the Earth’s A Field
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2017, 05:02:25 PM »
Thanks for all thoughts
Cyril has added more Musings and a possible simple experiment below
more to follow

all comments [on topic]

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Re: Smudge's Musings on Electro-kinetic Potential in the Earth’s A Field
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2017, 03:39:11 AM »
Snip from PDF above [* More on using the Earth's Magnetic Vector Potential.pdf

""Simple Experiment

In order to establish that a changing charge really does exhibit force from the Earth’s
A field it would seem worthwhile to conduct a simple experiment. This is illustrated
in figure 6. A conductive sphere is suspended from the ceiling using a thin
connecting wire. The sphere is charged to a high potential from an EHT source,

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Re: Smudge's Musings on Electro-kinetic Potential in the Earth’s A Field
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2017, 05:39:10 AM »
If you take a spherical magnet, and spin it on its' axis
The field stays in place from a perspective some distance from the magnet.
But what happens to a conductor at the surface that is rotating with it?
If the field isn't rotating, then the rotating conductor must be cutting the lines of force


What does that mean to us on the surface of the earth, if we face a pair of
polarized coils in an (magnetic) east/west direction?
And maybe amplify the field with a magnet aligned to the earths field.


When we run the numbers for the kinetic energy between the rotation of the earth
And a theoretical "motionless" object......
The impact velocity is just over 1,000 Mph at the surface from the rotation alone.
That is ignoring our current orbital velocity around the sun
Or the motion of our solar system or galaxy through space.


I don't know if anyone has tried to make a motor using a sphere magnet
wrapped with a coil and rotating them both together with sliding contacts
Would be interesting to know the outcome.


The alternative would have to be that even on the surface
The field appears stationary.
What then happens to an induction coil on the front of an east/westbound model rocket?


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Re: Smudge's Musings on Electro-kinetic Potential in the Earth’s A Field
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2017, 07:38:05 AM »
If the field was stationary as you suggest,  then if Earths nearly uniform field was passing through a coil it would also be passing out of the coil at the same rate.
Any positive current gain from the field entering the coil would be equal to the negative current generated as it was exiting the coil so the overall gain is zero.

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Re: Smudge's Musings on Electro-kinetic Potential in the Earth’s A Field
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