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Author Topic: Create a square wave with spark gap  (Read 6553 times)

antimony

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Create a square wave with spark gap
« on: February 10, 2017, 03:47:04 PM »
Hi, i heard something a few days ago that Kapanadze generated square waves without semi-conductor electronics through the spark gap, in the same fashion that Akula does it with electronics in his devices.
Maybe this is a stupid question, but i tried to find it out myself through google, and all my books, but i couldn´t find out anything that made me wiser. So i would like to ask if someone could tell me how one could adjust the HV-transformer and spark gap to create specific waves?

PWM? :/

dieter

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Re: Create a square wave with spark gap
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2017, 07:11:47 PM »
I am not a waveform expert, but a sparkgap causes a very spikey form, far from square. You probably could use a smoothing cap, followed by a zener diode with the correc breaktrough voltage. Or you could use after the smooting cap a voltage stabilizer element that eg. delivers 12 Volt or nothing, depending on what's left in the cap. But that is already electronics again, although available as "discrete part".
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Re: Create a square wave with spark gap
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2017, 07:17:31 PM »
Or you may use a mechanical oscillator, at low frequency, like the one in old doorbells, in which the current causes a magnetic counterforce to interrupt its own connection frequently. No clean square signal tho, as there will be microarcing.

antimony

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Re: Create a square wave with spark gap
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2017, 05:47:48 PM »
Is this something that Kapanadze is keeping a secret, among other things like a circuit to keep resonance in balance or what you say?

What is it that needs to be discovered in order to make the TK devices to run a overunity?

dieter

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Re: Create a square wave with spark gap
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2017, 08:33:41 PM »
Too many secrets in Kapadnaze thingy imho to even think about a replication. The only thing about it that was replicated by others is the CLAIM of overunity.


Anyhow, a sparkgap by his own does already cause a very unperfect square wave, because of the townsend electron avalanche will allow to maintain the spark connection over a brief period, even tho the potential diffrence fell already below the breakdown voltage of the gap. (just another free energy enigma, that avalanche).


But what then totally messes up this "square signal" is any Back emf in a coil, following the gap, because it's stingy, peaky and ringing out. So a diode may seperate the signal from the back emf.


That being said, not really my field, Tesla HV coils.

dieter

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Re: Create a square wave with spark gap
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2017, 08:47:37 PM »
OS speaking of spark gaps and back emf: the bemf will usually have a much higher Voltage than the forward signal and therefor can easily jump back over the gap, this way I killed my 1000v max digital Voltmeter. You'll notice the diffrent color of the spark when you use a diode to prevent the bemf from jumping back. One direction is red, the other blue. So both together appear purple.


Solder 10 times a 1000v rated diode in series and it will handle 10kV without to get damaged.

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Re: Create a square wave with spark gap
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2017, 01:46:27 PM »
Free energy from sparks are all the rage at the moment, but the act of a spark does not bring in any energy, it wastes energy.  How can I be so sure?  Well when a good quality cap is charged to a high voltage and discharged into a good coil through a spark gap, the oscillations quickly die down,even  with very high Q  components.  In the KHz range radiation from a coil is minimal and most is lost in resistive losses.  If any energy were coming in, it would add to the energy and  the oscillations would no longer be damped.  Thats how easy the test is, yet all sorts of circuits are constructed to generate free energy.  If the simplest low loss system of a high Q resonating circuit cant do it, those high loss circuits have no chance.  :(   I havent tested unidirectional sparks , but oscillating ones are most probably useless, these cant use coils or caps as loads without diode based circuits , as once again current reversals can occur within the spark.

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Re: Create a square wave with spark gap
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2017, 02:47:05 PM »
Free energy from sparks are all the rage at the moment, but the act of a spark does not bring in any energy, it wastes energy.  How can I be so sure?  Well when a good quality cap is charged to a high voltage and discharged into a good coil through a spark gap, the oscillations quickly die down,even  with very high Q  components.  In the KHz range radiation from a coil is minimal and most is lost in resistive losses.  If any energy were coming in, it would add to the energy and  the oscillations would no longer be damped.  Thats how easy the test is, yet all sorts of circuits are constructed to generate free energy.  If the simplest low loss system of a high Q resonating circuit cant do it, those high loss circuits have no chance.  :(   I havent tested unidirectional sparks , but oscillating ones are most probably useless, these cant use coils or caps as loads without diode based circuits , as once again current reversals can occur within the spark.
Have you tried using an earth as well in your circuit you might get somwhere then in your rage or using an old MOT as a current dump
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Re: Create a square wave with spark gap
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2017, 02:43:20 PM »
Tesla did use magnetic arc interrupter for his sparks gap. Actually he discovered the scalar waves just during it. The reason for this behavior is, the electrons moving within magnetic field repel mutually and they spread the discharge to a large volume, which gets cooled and interrupted easier, so that the faster switching and rectangular current from spark gap can be achieved. The scalar waves are generated just during transient phenomena, i.e. turning current on and off - not just reversing its polarity. There are indicia, that placing the magnet around spark gap can generate overunity or even radioactivity with NMR effects to atom nuclei within plasma.