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Author Topic: The Concentric Capacitor - Key to the Kapanadze Device and similar FE Concepts?  (Read 16728 times)

Offline Zeitmaschine

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The point with concentric capacitors is that the Aether should be set in rotary motion (according to Aspden) between the capacitor plates. But what decides about the direction of that motion? There should be a coil (like that) wound clockwise or counterclockwise so the Aether gets a distinct push in one direction in order to get the max. effect out of it - as far as I see this.

High voltage (ceramic) capacitor test series:

Configuration 1: An idle running high voltage transformer is connected through a sine wave inverter to a 12V battery. The ammeter shows a current of 908mA DC.

Configuration 2: Same as before. But now there is a capacitor connected in parallel to the primary coil of the transformer. Independent of the added capacitance the ammeter continues to show a current of 908mA DC without any deviation. So either capacitor and coil are not in resonance, or, if in resonance, it does not affect the battery current.

Configuration 3: The capacitor is connected to the secondary (high voltage) coil of the transformer. Now the ammeter shows clearly a lower battery current (around 1W less power consumption). Adding more capacitance (in the range of nF) results in an even lower current.

Configuration 4: Same as before. But now a spark gap is connected in series with the capacitor. Here the battery current goes up as the ammeter shows. Strangely, preventing a permanent contact results in a higher current.

Those are the measurements. Conclusion?

The capacitor - although not concentric - on the high voltage side collects additional energy from the Aether and reflects that energy back into the transformer, whereas the capacitor on the low voltage side does basically the same, but due to the low voltage that effect is insufficient to be measured.

Further, when a spark gap is connected in series with that capacitor on the high voltage side, that erratic sparking disrupts the flow of energy into the transformer collected by the capacitor. Moreover, it creates a phase shift, so the collected energy from the Aether works against the current flow in the transformer circuit.

Not sure if this explanation is correct, but something odd is going on here.

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Offline citfta

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There is nothing odd about your transformer experiment.  By adding the capacitor to the secondary winding you are bringing the secondary closer to a resonant condition.  If you keep adding capacitance you will reach a point of the lowest current draw from the primary side.  If you increase the capacitance after that point then you will see the current start to increase again.  The lowest current draw is when the secondary is at resonance.  A parallel resonant circuit will draw the least amount of current from the source.  A series resonant circuit will draw the maximum amount of current from the source.  When you add the spark gap you totally upset the resonant condition so the secondary acts just like a normal load which increases the current draw from the primary.

Carroll


Offline Zeitmaschine

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By adding the capacitor to the secondary winding you are bringing the secondary closer to a resonant condition.

And that capacitor that brings the secondary closer to the resonance is that component - according to Aspden - which can collect energy from the Aether. So maybe it would be a good idea to take a closer look what the term »resonance« here actually means. Does the coil resonate simply with a capacitor (two dead metallic plates) or does it resonate with the Aether between the plates, more precise the energy of that Aether?

»If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.« - Nikola Tesla

I'm trying to do just that.

The specific question: Why does here the resonance depend on high voltage? Connecting the secondary of a 230V isolation transformer to approx. 2nF shows no sign at all of resonance or lowering the DC input amps. Not even 10nF or 100nF does anything. Hence the suspicion: there could be something erroneous with our textbooks, so we don't see the obvious.

Offline sm0ky2

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What the secondary coil 'resonates' with is the primary coil
In combination with the air-core or ferrite core they are wound around.
Adding a capacitance to the secondary coil to bring it closer to resonance
 makes the primary and secondary coils react in a similar manner to the electromagnetic flux
It's like playing a song on a piano in the same 'key'
If you play that same song using contrasting keys the song will sound chopped and flat.
When you play it in the same key, the sound amplifies and carries


Offline Zeitmaschine

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Yes, there is resonance. But what is a state of resonance according to the textbooks? Here the textbook explanation:

Tutorial on LC Resonant Circuits

When a parallel LC circuit is in resonance with the frequency of the signal generator, then the input current goes to zero (in the ideal case). And at that point the textbook stops explaining, so it is only half the truth. But isn't that somewhat puzzling? If there is no input current (quote: »it looks like an open circuit«), then what energy source keeps the oscillation going? The answer must be: the energy of the Aether. This is what the textbooks won't let you know.

Electric fields and magnetic fields are characteristics of the Aether. In a charged capacitor the energy is not stored in the plates, but in the Aether between the plates. Likewise, the magnetic field is not stored in the wire of a coil, but in the Aether surrounding that coil. That means, in a resonating LC circuit, not the visible electric components (L and C) do mystically resonate with each other, but the Aether itself. Since that Aether contains energy, that energy is responsible for that effect that we then can observe as LC resonance in the macroscopic world.

It is also responsible for the energy that powers the earpiece of a crystal radio. Here that energy is not coming from the antenna out of thin air, but rather out of thin Aether which resonates within the tuned LC circuit. The longer the antenna, the higher the potential difference between antenna and ground due to the static electric field in the atmosphere. The higher the voltage across that LC circuit, the higher the warping of the Aether and the higher the energy gain from the Aether within the LC circuit (see the high voltage experiment above). The resonating circuit turns pure voltage into useful current that can power a load.

So actually does that imply free energy was (and still is) right in front of our eyes in plain view, but obscured by the textbooks until now? It looks that way. And that's why the forums keep going in circles thousands of pages year after year. Now it's finally time to break out of those circles.

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Offline sm0ky2

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exactly Zeit

This is a concept a lot of people get hung up on (look at joule thief threads...)
current is related to impedance, just the same as it is to resistance.
some interpretations observe the two as one and the same.

when the impedance of the transformer primary approaches =0 (resonant state)
current through the primary also approaches = 0
current through the secondary is driven by the resonation. (environmental capacitance)
Not by the source.

Offline Zeitmaschine

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Happy new year, happy free energy! :)

I'd like to start the new year with a quote from All About Circuits:

»What happens at resonance is quite interesting. With capacitive and inductive reactances equal to each other, the total impedance increases to infinity, meaning that the tank circuit draws no current from the AC power source!«

So the tank circuit needs no power source in order to oscillate? No problem with that! It is exactly what we are looking for!

My High and Low Voltage Capacitors Tests

12.5V × 900mA = 11.25W
12.5V × 800mA = 10W

Question: Where are the 1.25 watts coming from when the set of capacitor is connected to the high voltage secondary? Why can't I get the same 1.25 watts when any capacitor is connected to a LOW voltage secondary? Hmmm ...
   
Vice versa: Why should the high voltage transformer with a non-connected open secondary consume 1.25 watts in addition, not needed when the set of capacitors is connected to the secondary? Hmmm ...

Advanced stuff (in German):

Kapazitiver Transformator
W. Wiedergut - Testatika

They are close, but not close enough. Below are the illustrations how I see this.

High voltage pulses created by something (can be rotating disks) are connected to an in reverse working Tesla coil. The secondary coil (former primary) consists of just one single winding made of sheet metal, surrounded by a grounded (Faraday) cage. This forms a three-plate capacitor. As we can see, the load is connected to an extremely low-ohm power source, namely the plus and minus single winding secondary coils, connected together via ground. The Tesla coil and the outer plate are forming a concentric capacitor with the output coil in the middle. The high voltage input to the Tesla coil (maybe up to 100,000 volts) creates a strong Aether rotary motion which induces a high current in the single winding coil between.

The basic component, that collects the energy from the Aether, is the concentric capacitor. The reverse Tesla coil does only assists that effect; remember, the Hendershot device does not need a Tesla coil. So the question is, could this also work with an ordinary step-down transformer?

Unfortunately, I can't test my theories right now, because I'm waiting for the delivery of components ordered from China (Tesla coils are rather expensive in Germany). :(

But at least, we keep it so simple, one would laugh. If we know the Testatika secret, we know the Kapanadze secret.

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Offline Dog-One

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Good research going on here Zeitmaschine!

I think you're really close to breakthrough.


What we know is this:

If you can combine voltage with amperage in-phase, you have real power.
I think the concentric capacitor technique is the means to achieve this.

We have plenty of voltage from the source.  You have access to high current
with the single turn shielded coil.  So if we can combine these two things in
such a way where they do not cancel each other out, there's real power there
for the taking.

Splitting the positive source away from the negative source appears to me
to be the correct approach.  I see this in your drawing.  I also see pulsed
DC which is needed for any induction to occur.  For things to stay in-phase,
the positive and negative commutators must be perfectly matched to
make-n-break at identical times.  Each side is the sink for the other side;
the load is the spring in the middle and must be compressed equally from
each side at exactly the same time.

This is a device where it looks to me like symmetry is critical unlike most
devices where asymmetry is needed.  I'm guessing the source is where
all of the asymmetry is concentrated.

The last part of this that is critical IMHO for proper operation is the
frequency of the pulses and the capacitance between the single-turn
coil and the outer faraday cage.  This capacitor must allow the frequency
of pulses to get through it at the peak of its Q-factor, otherwise the
bulk of that energy will be lost.


Great detective work so far.  I'll keep checking in on your progress
and provide anymore ideas that come to mind.  This looks to me like
a real possibility for success with enough patience and attention to
detail.

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Interesting stuff, My question is, can you pull voltage from one lead of the coil, while pulling current from the other lead of the coil?
I think you can , just by way of differential in potential.
If you charge two cap banks, off of generating coils, discharge one while the other is generating, then reverse.
artv

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This is a device where it looks to me like symmetry is critical unlike most
devices where asymmetry is needed.  I'm guessing the source is where
all of the asymmetry is concentrated.

Dog-one

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Now you've discovered the polarity-like behavior of symmetry and asymmetry.

Now try thinking in terms of resonance and its partner, dissonance being just as polarized as symmetry and asymmetry.

Example: The perfect resonance of space (Aether) is v2/c2 = Phi

v2 is the square of the velocity of space (Aether)

c2 is the square of the velocity of light

Phi is the Golden Ratio

If Phi is the perfect resonant condition, what is the mechanism that can cause the dissonant condition.

Resonance>Dissonance>Resonance>Dissonance>Resonance>Dissonance.....   can you say pumping the Aether.

Think.


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A summarization of the latest findings and theories regarding Aether powered electric free energy devices....


Hi Zeitmachine!


I too noticed this correlation, and I have also gained the ability to feel aetheric energy, and I have worked out a fair bit of what is going on.


I have found that aetheric energy "particles" have positive and negative charges, and they are affected by centrifugal force, but the electric charge, and any suitable magnetic field can act centripetally to keep aetheric charges moving at a very very high velocity in a circle.


Thus the electric and the magnetic fields must both force these aetheric  charges in the same direction if both are used.


In addition a source of such "aetheric charges" is desirable, spark gaps and other ionization is a good source.
Also it is good if they have a narrow space to move through, and it is good if that space is optically transparent, so 2 concentric metal cylinders charged with a narrow gap in between would be a good setup with a charge between the cylinders ideally.

John
« Last Edit: January 27, 2017, 11:35:29 AM by aether22 »

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What would be the best way to make a concentric capacitor?


Offline Zeitmaschine

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A classic Leyden Jar perhaps? :)

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Splitting the positive source away from the negative source appears to me
to be the correct approach.

This results in a high voltage source with infinite resistance. How to accomplish this with traditional circuitry? Maybe a high voltage transformer with two high voltage coils, each has one lead connected and one open, one connected lead is positive and one is negative?

And I'm still waiting for parts from China ... :(

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    • Reddit about Aether Wave Theory
In dense aether model the vacuum behaves like elastic material, similar to foam. The foam can mediate both the transverse waves (which spread in similar way, like the ripples at the water surface), both longitudinal (scalar) waves, which could be imagined like the pressure waves of the underwater. The common antenna dipoles are supposed to radiate transverse waves only, the radiator of scalar waves should consist of just two concentric spheres with alternating voltage between them - i.e. just like the concentric capacitor. The concentric capacitor is the electrostatic analogy of bifilar coil in electrodynamics - this arrangement of electrodes is not supposed to radiate the energy into an outside, because the spherical antennae aren't supposed to radiate in Maxwell theory due to charge conservation.

What makes this arrangement interesting for overunity forum is, that the device which can radiate some wave can in principle serve as a detector of them as well. And the vacuum is supposed to be a full of scalar waves, which manifest itself like the quantum fluctuations. The transverse portion of these fluctuations is detectable directly even with common antennae like so-called microwave background radiation. And the scalar wave portion should be even more intensive. The point there is, the charged capacitor should serve like the rectifier of electric field formed with these fluctuations, because its voltage drop creates the similar space-charge like the  space charge region at the PN junction of semiconductor diode. On this principle so-called captret is reportedly working.


 

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