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Author Topic: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?  (Read 246025 times)

Majestic81

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Re: Free Energy Device Live Streaming Demo Event 2nd of November 2016
« Reply #90 on: February 15, 2017, 09:29:22 PM »
Sorry to hear that, but somehow expected .
Did you get the chance to  see their office building or manufacture facility?

Nothing, I shared with them that they could call me anytime during that weekend. No answer back.

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #91 on: February 15, 2017, 11:38:59 PM »
Stephan, just because YOU didn't hand over money, does not mean nobody did. This may be a front for a sting operation. No matter the money angle, it still will not make energy.

How can you be so sure of that? Why would somebody go to all the trouble of setting up a website and making videos of a device if they were not asking money for up front? In addition you only pay after a 30 day trial period. I fail to see how they have anything to gain from videoing a non-working device. Unless the intention was to fool everybody. Seems like a lot of trouble to go to. There are easier and quicker ways of doing that.

memoryman

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #92 on: February 15, 2017, 11:43:20 PM »
TOMD: "How can you be so sure of that?" An deep understanding of basic physics.

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #93 on: February 16, 2017, 12:06:25 AM »
Hey there,

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Why would somebody go to all the trouble of setting up a website and making videos....?
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remember Steorn ?! they also planned public demonstrations ...

anyway there are at least for me some questions , something simply doesn't add up
there was(is) some youtube replys from Denis where he says
 
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This is not testatika, though similar

The main need for the production of free energy devices is deep in the earth's crust,
 the problem is that the majority does not know to use this knowledge
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and then he tells Stefan that it's all about a Lenz free generator?! i don't get it
btw has anyone a clue what is this Dresden 1943 experiment about?

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #94 on: February 16, 2017, 07:53:50 AM »
Nikola Tesla (1856-1943) ? year of death



Zeitmaschine

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #95 on: February 16, 2017, 03:10:35 PM »
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has anyone a clue what is this Dresden 1943 experiment about?

Innova Tehno 1943 mentions (unconfirmed) an aircraft named »Die Glocke«.

From »Disc Aircraft of The Third Reich«:

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The most sensational piece of information on Nazi secret research to come out since the reunification of Germany - indeed, since the origins of the Nazi "UFO" Legend itself- is the story told by Nick Cook in his Quest for Zero Point, which appeared in the U.K. in 2001. The story is, additionally, the only real solid piece of corroboration of the Nazi UFO Legend to appear since the war, based, as as it is, on a secret and recently declassified Polish war crimes trial affidavit of a former SS general.

"The Bell" (German: die Glocke) represented something at the very pinnacle of Kammler's grizzly and super-secret SS "wonderweapons" empire. Cook's book represents the only publicly accessible information on this bizarre object in the English language, the equally macabre experimentation that surrounded it, and the stringent security the SS held it under.

The following are the salient features of The Bell, according to Cook:

(1) The Bell was reportedly a metallic object, approximately 9' in diameter and 12-15' tall;

(2) It looked like a "Bell", hence its codename to the Germans, die Glocke;

(3) It was comprised of two counter-rotating cylinders, rotating a purplish liquid-metallic looking substance code-named "Xerum 525" by the Germans, at high speeds;

(4) "Xerum 525" was apparently highly radioactive, being purple in color, and housed in cylinders with lead lining 3 cm thick;

(5) The Bell apparently required high amounts of electrical power in its operation;

(6) During use, it could only be run for approximately one to two minutes, as it apparently gave off strong radiation and/or other electromagnetic or unknown field effects;

    (a) Several scientist died on its first operation;
    (b) Subsequent tests included various plants and animals, all of which decomposed into a blackish goo and without normal putrefaction, within a matter of a few minutes or hours after exposure to its field effects when in operation;
    (c) Technicians near the Bell during these experiments reported metallic tastes in their mouths after being exposed to it;
    (d) The chamber in which the Bell was tested was lined with ceramic bricks and rubber mats, and had to have its rubber matting removed and burned after each test, and it was subsequently washed down with brine by inmates from nearby concentration camps;

(7) All the scientists and witnesses who saw or worked on the Bell were murdered by the SS as the war neared its end;

(8) The Hell [typo? Freudian slip?] was transplanted out of Silesia to a destination that has never been discovered. The Bell, along with General Kammler himself, simply disappear entirely from history, never to be seen again.

(9) A strange "henge" like structure was constructed by the Germans out of reinforced concrete near the facility where the Bell was located and tested (Muzeum Molke, 120 Miles from Dresden?). This structure resembled a test rig for the possible test of extremely powerful propulsion devices.

So what is this all about? Does the Innova Tehno device run on (radioactive) Xerum 525? Or is the Innova Tehno device the free energy device that powered »Die Glocke«, because it required high amounts of electrical power?

All this is very confusing. But maybe that's the sole purpose of it.

Something more simple:

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TOMD: "How can you be so sure of that?" An deep understanding of basic physics.

That understanding of basic physics is needed here:

I'm still waiting for a (conventional) explanation how a capacitance of just 3.8nF can lower the power consumption of a high voltage transformer running at 50Hz over ten percent, other than the capacitance itself acts as (an additional) power source (see Aspden).

High and Low Voltage Capacitors (Free Energy) Test

Although this website is called overunity, strangely almost no one seems to be interested in the investigation of a simple configuration that could easily bring up evidence of zero point energy. No comments, no known replication attempts so far. One could wonder why. But if this is indeed just standard behavior of a capacitance connected to a transformer then what could be its mathematical equation? Voltage times capacitance equals negative resistance? Something like that perhaps?


citfta

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #96 on: February 16, 2017, 03:59:36 PM »


Something more simple:

That understanding of basic physics is needed here:

I'm still waiting for a (conventional) explanation how a capacitance of just 3.8nF can lower the power consumption of a high voltage transformer running at 50Hz over ten percent, other than the capacitance itself acts as (an additional) power source (see Aspden).



http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/filter/filter_1.html

Zeitmaschine

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #97 on: February 16, 2017, 04:25:10 PM »
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http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/filter/filter_1.html

Means what?

It says: »Capacitive Reactance varies with the applied frequency so any variation in supply frequency will have a big effect on the capacitors, “capacitive reactance” value.«

But here the frequency stays constant at 50Hz, it is the voltage that varies. The formula for resonant frequency calculation does not include voltage, just capacitance, inductance and frequency. An arbitrary capacitance does not lower the power consumption of a 230V (isolation) transformer.


memoryman

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #98 on: February 16, 2017, 04:48:32 PM »
"An arbitrary capacitance does not lower the power consumption of a 230V (isolation) transformer." Read up on 'reactive power' vs 'real power'.

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #99 on: February 16, 2017, 04:56:37 PM »
classical urban legend where all the persons die not having a chance to tell the story :-)




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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #100 on: February 16, 2017, 04:57:37 PM »
TOMD: "How can you be so sure of that?" An deep understanding of basic physics.


Okay then, please use your "deep understanding of basic physics" and explain electricity, gravity and magnetism.
Can you explain these 3 basic physics effects?... if you can't, then, would it not suggest that your deep understanding is not as deep as you think? ... more like a superficial understanding,  similar to human ego!... no?

Looking forward to your explanation or ego reality check

Sincerely

Luc

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #101 on: February 16, 2017, 05:07:02 PM »
If you want to learn, study. There are many excellent textbooks that can teach you, IF YOU ARE WILLING TO LEARN.
Don't make claims without being able to support them. None of the OU/free energy claims on this site have been verified by demonstration. Conventional science results in PRODUCTS such as the computer that I use.

gotoluc

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #102 on: February 16, 2017, 05:37:43 PM »
If you want to learn, study. There are many excellent textbooks that can teach you, IF YOU ARE WILLING TO LEARN.
Don't make claims without being able to support them. None of the OU/free energy claims on this site have been verified by demonstration. Conventional science results in PRODUCTS such as the computer that I use.

See, I know you can't explain what electricity, gravity and magnetism is, since it's not in the textbooks.
So if you know this as fact, how can you be so sure there is nothing more possible then what science understands at this time?... do you not see this as limited knowledge?... and stating it's not possible, when your science still cannot explain the above 3 basic effects. Is your statement really based on facts?

Come on, step out of the shell and see how nonfactual your argument is. More like a deep understanding of incomplete physics

Regards

Luc

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #103 on: February 16, 2017, 06:08:30 PM »
Luke, we don't always have to know the exact nature of these forces in order to make practical use of them.
The effects of  electricity, gravity and magnetism are very well understood; that understanding is expressed as laws. If you want to challenge these laws, demonstrate where and when they don't apply. As far as I am concerned, the first LoT still stands, while second LoT is successfully challenged.

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #104 on: February 16, 2017, 06:10:41 PM »
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Read up on 'reactive power' vs 'real power'.

Already done years ago. Can't find any capacitor used for power factor correction in the range of some nF. They are all lots of µF in order to have any measurable effect. So it stays strange that 3.8nF at 50Hz at 2500V can »correct« my real power consumption over 10%. There is no such correction effect when connecting an arbitrary capacitance to the 230V primary side of the same HV transformer. Odd.